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Post by stevetino on Apr 21, 2019 17:46:40 GMT
Clayton has just fouled out when a Leicester player drove the ball straight at him...…. He didn't move but drive came from side, no call Shocking call that one mind, those 3 refs don’t inspire confidence from the players you can tell by the body language |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Apr 21, 2019 17:49:28 GMT
21 turnovers by Giants. That's the game lost right there. Two wins in two nights. Well done Riders. We don't match up well against Manchester whereas other teams easily beat them.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Apr 21, 2019 17:51:21 GMT
Refs giving this to Leicester Is that you Dyb Dyb? |
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Post by Mike Kelly on Apr 21, 2019 20:53:10 GMT
Solid first half from Manchester, whose shots were falling early unlike Leicester's. Clayton was causing the Riders massive problems in the paint, they didn't have anybody who could stop him around the rim.
Second half, and in particular the third quarter, the referees didn't allow the game to flow. A lot of questionable fouls called against the Giants, and their frustration at these calls led to a number of technical fouls. Riders shot 18 free throws in the third quarter which allowed them to overturn the deficit and take a small lead into the 4th and they didn't look back.
4th quarter it felt like Manchester were playing hero ball. McCall in particular was taking a lot of contested shots out of the flow of the offense. I can't remember him making a shot in the quarter. Clayton was working hard for position in the paint but his teammates didn't seem to try to get the ball to him.
Very underwhelming performance from Leicester and difficult to pick out anyone who performed well. Hampton battled hard and Washington seemed in control of the offense. However, on that showing there's no reason a lower seed shouldn't fancy their chances against them in the playoffs.
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Post by faz on Apr 21, 2019 21:06:33 GMT
I also thought Jamal had a very good game. Too much dribble from Connor and Clark is a waste of an import spot. Riders won’t play as bad as they did first half but post half time their d was excellent
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Post by leamrider2 on Apr 22, 2019 6:35:24 GMT
A lot of underwhelming Riders performances this season - and they still finish at least second in the league. What does that say about the rest?
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Post by sharkfan on Apr 22, 2019 7:59:51 GMT
Second half, and in particular the third quarter, the referees didn't allow the game to flow. A lot of questionable fouls called against the Giants, and their frustration at these calls led to a number of technical fouls. Riders shot 18 free throws in the third quarter which allowed them to overturn the deficit and take a small lead into the 4th and they didn't look back.
THATS THE GAME RIGHT THERE !!!
Can you imagine Vince (I know how to work the refs) Razak putting up with those calls ? NO he wouldn`t and neither would Paternosta. Those refs were weak and took the easiest option for calls and that is really sad
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Post by massiveridersfan on Apr 22, 2019 8:28:25 GMT
Second half, and in particular the third quarter, the referees didn't allow the game to flow. A lot of questionable fouls called against the Giants, and their frustration at these calls led to a number of technical fouls. Riders shot 18 free throws in the third quarter which allowed them to overturn the deficit and take a small lead into the 4th and they didn't look back. THATS THE GAME RIGHT THERE !!! Can you imagine Vince (I know how to work the refs) Razak putting up with those calls ? NO he wouldn`t and neither would Paternosta. Those refs were weak and took the easiest option for calls and that is really sad WEAK 21 turnovers by Giants. 21!26 points scored from those turnovers by Riders. Did Giants just carelessly drop the ball that number of times or was that the result of pressure from Riders' defence? Think you'll find that was the game right there. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 9:25:26 GMT
A lot of underwhelming Riders performances this season - and they still finish at least second in the league. What does that say about the rest? Most losses in over 5 years Least amount of trophies won in a long time Very disappointing season as far as Riders are supposed to be an elite team, they certainly haven't looked like that this year. Every team starts the season with their own target, ours was the be a top 8 team (which i think well do now). People dont judge ours usually, just their own. That's how it works when you're a lower level club. Unfortunately when you're Leicester, London, Newcastle you have a target on your back, everyone wants to see you fail because you're at the top. That's why many neutrals have enjoyed seeing Manchester do so well. Leicester, while I'm sure 10 clubs would swap places with them, have had a very poor season in their eyes and to be honest this is probably the beginning of the end. Newcastle have seen your arena, seen where it fails, seen where it succeeds and seen where it can be improved and they have done that. A years time their budget will be vastly greater than any other BBL club and that could be a worry. I fully expect Fab to be working for The Raptors next season as Nick Nurse is now allowed to hire his own staff, (he wasnt allowed this season, hence Fab just working summer league and all star break with them). Fab will leave on a high, most decorated BBL coach of all time and seeing Eagles open their own arena. Lions I never understand how they do what they do but its Vince, the man knows how to succeed! Royals, if their pockets are just as deep next season, teams are in even more trouble. Leicester have a very tough summer ahead of them. They need wholesale changes. Unfortunately, they need to get rid of their brits, they're, in the most part very complacent in their role and not performing well enough. Connor finished the season high for sure, Anderson? Not good enough, Douse? Not good enough, Thomo? Think hes done in a major minute way, Lascells? Barly gets off the bench, Ward-Hibbet ? Shining star, needs to be a bigger role or hes gone I reckon, Gamble? 12th man, great ambassador for the club, doesn't do anywhere near enough on court. This has turned into a rant, I didn't plan that. To sum it up, 10 clubs would happily swap places with Leicester, but that's a very poor season for Leicester, or just the best BBL season from top to bottom weve seen in a long time. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Apr 22, 2019 11:25:08 GMT
Nice rant mttall, in there as well quite a few good points.
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Post by stevetino on Apr 22, 2019 11:57:08 GMT
Quality rant mr tall 👏👏
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Post by faz on Apr 22, 2019 13:48:51 GMT
Not sure I agree. Riders have suffered from whom they’ve lost in recent years: Sullivan, Bernadini, King whilst Tommo is ageing. They’re still a good bbl side. I think you under estimate Anderson somewhat. Most are decent bbl players. Improve on Williams and Clark and Riders will take some beating
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 22, 2019 14:06:01 GMT
Not sure I agree. Riders have suffered from whom they’ve lost in recent years: Sullivan, Bernadini, King whilst Tommo is ageing. They’re still a good bbl side. I think you under estimate Anderson somewhat. Most are decent bbl players. Improve on Williams and Clark and Riders will take some beating Williams has been doing great for us?? We had a blip about 6 weeks ago when we lost a couple of games. Other than that the league was lost at the start of the season We have the best form of any team in BBL right now Clark has been injured most of the time since he returned. He would be the only player I would be looking to maybe swap right now who is a potential starter for us. I would be happy to build on this squad and without Europe to worry about we would be very much in the mix next season. I'm not sure lions will maintain what they have, let alone build on it |
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Post by eagle on Apr 22, 2019 14:30:56 GMT
“A blip about 6 weeks ago when we lost a couple of games”
Really? Is that how you describe losses on 17 mar, 22 mar, 29 mar and 31 March (to LCR, Manchester, Glasgow and cheshire)
That’s comical Ali stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 14:35:43 GMT
Not sure I agree. Riders have suffered from whom they’ve lost in recent years: Sullivan, Bernadini, King whilst Tommo is ageing. They’re still a good bbl side. I think you under estimate Anderson somewhat. Most are decent bbl players. Improve on Williams and Clark and Riders will take some beating Very good bbl players yes, were talking Europe level players tho which they aren't. You could keep this team together and do well but you wouldn't be progressing |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 22, 2019 14:38:27 GMT
“A blip about 6 weeks ago when we lost a couple of games” Really? Is that how you describe losses on 17 mar, 22 mar, 29 mar and 31 March (to LCR, Manchester, Glasgow and cheshire) That’s comical Ali stuff. ; Yep. We were playing poorly then. We are playing much better now. That blip and early season is when we lost the league |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Apr 22, 2019 15:35:04 GMT
Leicester... have had a very poor season in their eyes and to be honest this is probably the beginning of the end. RIP Leicester Riders Basketball Club 1967 - 2019 |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Apr 22, 2019 16:51:47 GMT
Not sure I agree. Riders have suffered from whom they’ve lost in recent years: Sullivan, Bernadini, King whilst Tommo is ageing. They’re still a good bbl side. I think you under estimate Anderson somewhat. Most are decent bbl players. Improve on Williams and Clark and Riders will take some beating Think we'd all want Williams to return. Can we retain him? We'll see. |
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Post by sharkfan on Apr 22, 2019 17:50:51 GMT
Leicester created some turnovers by good physical defence, the weak refs didn't allow Manchester to play with the same physicality and Clayton and Butler fouled out giving the game to Leicester
As I said Paternosta and Razak would not have stood for that and the WEAK refs are afraid to make calls against their teams (Not all BBL refs are weak but that crew was big time)
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Post by massiveridersfan on Apr 22, 2019 18:28:01 GMT
Leicester created some turnovers by good physical defence, the weak refs didn't allow Manchester to play with the same physicality and Clayton and Butler fouled out giving the game to Leicester As I said Paternosta and Razak would not have stood for that and the WEAK refs are afraid to make calls against their teams (Not all BBL refs are weak but that crew was big time) Weak Weak Weak Seriously? Okay, if that's what you wish to believe. |
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Post by stevetino on Apr 22, 2019 19:17:46 GMT
“A blip about 6 weeks ago when we lost a couple of games” Really? Is that how you describe losses on 17 mar, 22 mar, 29 mar and 31 March (to LCR, Manchester, Glasgow and cheshire) That’s comical Ali stuff. ; Yep. We were playing poorly then. We are playing much better now. That blip and early season is when we lost the league That blip when you lost 4 from 5 games, just a blip eh? 🤣👌 |
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