shandy
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Post by shandy on Apr 28, 2019 19:38:27 GMT
No he cannot shoot so weight does not matter 😁
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 28, 2019 19:40:43 GMT
No he cannot shoot so weight does not matter 😁 But would you like to choose someone who can run and jump
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 20:08:10 GMT
What happened to the longest bench in the bbl. 🤣🤣🤣 Just saying. We just showed it today. We've got a squad of 22 who can compete! You haven't. Leopards absolutely destroyed most of the side you put out today. We came 7th in D1.
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Post by saintpat on Apr 28, 2019 22:53:05 GMT
None they they could not win in nbl div 1 or the nbl playoffs 🤣🤣 None of them are 3 stone overweight though I wouldn't be quite so sure about that!!!😂😂
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Post by LTFan on Apr 29, 2019 10:22:52 GMT
Vince must be worried our 2nd string roster would rip his to bits, Lions roster is 90% first team I see Robinson got the night off though! Well, I think we all learnt absolutely nothing from this game, as largely expected. Riders played a junior team, Lions weren’t playing at the usual level… a complete non-event. We won, and I’d still say it’s a meaningless score. But I will use this opportunity to ask something I’ve been thinking about recently… why isn’t Justin Robinson the caption of the Lions? And I say that with absolutely no disrespect to Ikhinmwin – I do rate him as a player It’s just that Robinson is clearly the centre of the team, the one they look to for calling the shots and running the game - yes, I know that’s what you’d expect of a PG, but still! Is longevity (6 seasons I think) the only reason why Ikhinmwin is captain and not Robinson?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 10:42:38 GMT
I assumed they made Joe Ikh captain to say sorry for binning him the year before?
As he was captain several years before Robinson got there, I guess the question is is there any reason to remove the captaincy from him?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 29, 2019 11:06:29 GMT
I see Robinson got the night off though! Well, I think we all learnt absolutely nothing from this game, as largely expected. Riders played a junior team, Lions weren’t playing at the usual level… a complete non-event. We won, and I’d still say it’s a meaningless score. But I will use this opportunity to ask something I’ve been thinking about recently… why isn’t Justin Robinson the caption of the Lions? And I say that with absolutely no disrespect to Ikhinmwin – I do rate him as a player It’s just that Robinson is clearly the centre of the team, the one they look to for calling the shots and running the game - yes, I know that’s what you’d expect of a PG, but still! Is longevity (6 seasons I think) the only reason why Ikhinmwin is captain and not Robinson? Captains are more than on court. At riders they organise the team off the court in many ways. Barry Lamble did it for years playing minor minutes. I have no doubt Robinson leads them on court. But does he want to be the guy telling them what time to be at training and what kit they need etc.
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scotball
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Post by scotball on Apr 29, 2019 11:15:50 GMT
I completely disagree with what Riders did in this game.
In football, if you as blatantly as this played a weakened team you would be reprimanded / fined.
Weakened team is putting it politely, in almost all respects it was a completely different team (Douse and Gamble combining for <30 min). You're not even talking about playing "squad" players, it was a full team from a division below. Despite their very close connection, Leicester and Loughborough are two different clubs/teams.
Riders exploited an unfair advantage which allowed them to massively reduce the potential for injury/suspension for their players going into the Playoffs. For that, I'm hoping for a swift exit to Cheshire, a team who have matched up v. well vs Riders this season, in round 1.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 29, 2019 11:20:01 GMT
I completely disagree with what Riders did in this game. In football, if you as blatantly as this played a weakened team you would be reprimanded / fined. Weakened team is putting it politely, in almost all respects it was a completely different team (Douse and Gamble combining for <30 min). You're not even talking about playing "squad" players, it was a full team from a division below. Despite their very close connection, Leicester and Loughborough are two different clubs/teams. Riders exploited an unfair advantage which allowed them to massively reduce the potential for injury/suspension for their players going into the Playoffs. For that, I'm hoping for a swift exit to Cheshire, a team who have matched up v. well vs Riders this season, in round 1. Thats a fair point. But we've done this before and surely it's upto rulemakers at BBL to not allow it to happen if they don't think it's correct or fair to do. It's surprising that it is allowed TBH.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 29, 2019 11:26:26 GMT
I completely disagree with what Riders did in this game. In football, if you as blatantly as this played a weakened team you would be reprimanded / fined. Weakened team is putting it politely, in almost all respects it was a completely different team (Douse and Gamble combining for <30 min). You're not even talking about playing "squad" players, it was a full team from a division below. Despite their very close connection, Leicester and Loughborough are two different clubs/teams. Riders exploited an unfair advantage which allowed them to massively reduce the potential for injury/suspension for their players going into the Playoffs. For that, I'm hoping for a swift exit to Cheshire, a team who have matched up v. well vs Riders this season, in round 1. Thats a fair point. But we've done this before and surely it's upto rulemakers at BBL to not allow it to happen if they don't think it's correct or fair to do. It's surprising that it is allowed TBH. Ps in football it's only recently rules have changed to stop this kind of thing happening as well. And even then teams still rest entire teams as they have bigger squads
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 29, 2019 11:28:47 GMT
If he had got injured just for 3 or 4 games Riders would have probably won the league
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Post by stevetino on Apr 29, 2019 11:50:45 GMT
I completely disagree with what Riders did in this game. In football, if you as blatantly as this played a weakened team you would be reprimanded / fined. Weakened team is putting it politely, in almost all respects it was a completely different team (Douse and Gamble combining for <30 min). You're not even talking about playing "squad" players, it was a full team from a division below. Despite their very close connection, Leicester and Loughborough are two different clubs/teams. Riders exploited an unfair advantage which allowed them to massively reduce the potential for injury/suspension for their players going into the Playoffs. For that, I'm hoping for a swift exit to Cheshire, a team who have matched up v. well vs Riders this season, in round 1. They should be docked points as a punishment
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Post by LTFan on Apr 29, 2019 12:29:35 GMT
If he had got injured just for 3 or 4 games Riders would have probably won the league Who? Robinson?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 29, 2019 12:31:33 GMT
If he had got injured just for 3 or 4 games Riders would have probably won the league Who? Robinson? Yes
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Post by LTFan on Apr 29, 2019 12:32:33 GMT
If Robinson is the one really leading the team, then yes. This appears to be the case on court, but I’ll admit I have no idea who’s in that leadership role off-court. It was just a question on my mind, that’s all.
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Post by LTFan on Apr 29, 2019 12:33:48 GMT
Maybe. Maybe not. But I’m glad we didn’t have to find out.
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tigger
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Post by tigger on Apr 29, 2019 14:03:07 GMT
I completely disagree with what Riders did in this game. In football, if you as blatantly as this played a weakened team you would be reprimanded / fined. Weakened team is putting it politely, in almost all respects it was a completely different team (Douse and Gamble combining for <30 min). You're not even talking about playing "squad" players, it was a full team from a division below. Despite their very close connection, Leicester and Loughborough are two different clubs/teams. Riders exploited an unfair advantage which allowed them to massively reduce the potential for injury/suspension for their players going into the Playoffs. For that, I'm hoping for a swift exit to Cheshire, a team who have matched up v. well vs Riders this season, in round 1. They should be docked points as a punishment Eagles played with integrity against Lions - risking injury - despite the fact they had nothing to gain and had played a game 24 hrs beforehand. Riders - despite fans questioning whether Eagles would play to win against Lions - then field a Mickey Mouse team against Lions when they had nothing to gain! I know which approach I have total admiration and respect for.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Apr 29, 2019 14:12:18 GMT
Could be seen as another showing of petulance from a man who's shown more than once this season he's capable of a classless temper tantrum of the highest order when things aren't going his way.
Flip side of the coin of course is that he has the players at his disposal, and the result has absolutely no bearing on any team in the league including the two in the game, so why risk injury to a season already plagued with issues?
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Post by fozzie on Apr 29, 2019 15:28:14 GMT
Do we have all these players registered with BBL as pro players? (I'm guessing we do). Why aren't they shown on the website on the team roster?
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scotball
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Post by scotball on Apr 29, 2019 15:46:08 GMT
Could be seen as another showing of petulance from a man who's shown more than once this season he's capable of a classless temper tantrum of the highest order when things aren't going his way. Flip side of the coin of course is that he has the players at his disposal, and the result has absolutely no bearing on any team in the league including the two in the game, so why risk injury to a season already plagued with issues? My point is that they are not his/Riders players. Fielding genuine youth players would still be questionable morally, but he's not even done that, and therefore an unfair advantage has been gained. Many teams have suffered from injuries, its part and parcel of professional sport.
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Post by saintpat on Apr 29, 2019 15:46:52 GMT
Riders clearly have all these players registered, whilst the rules allow it he's clearly going to utilise the players he has at his disposal in a game where there is nothing to play for. Lions bench players played major minutes, Justin, Paul & Andre didnt play at all. If we'd had the opportunity to play some college guys & it wasn't the game we were celebrating the league trophy in we might well have had even some others suited up.
If the result had the ability to affect another teams position (as it has when he's rested players in previous years) then I can quite understand people getting annoyed & quite rightly but yesterday only effected the fans that were there watching, I doubt the Riders fans cared, the Lions fans were short changed from seeing a proper competitive game but not many of us cared. Wanting Riders to field a full strength team so they could get an injury seems rather churlish to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 16:01:43 GMT
I don't think it's a desire to see them field a full strength team, more the wish to see them field their *own* team.
I'm with IRF on this one though. If the rules allow it then crack on.
On a non-related note, is this the third year in a row when a Riders v Lions game has been a dead rubber?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 29, 2019 16:11:45 GMT
I don't think it's a desire to see them field a full strength team, more the wish to see them field their *own* team. I'm with IRF on this one though. If the rules allow it then crack on. On a non-related note, is this the third year in a row when a Riders v Lions game has been a dead rubber? And weve sent kids to play them before when it's been meaningless Great experience for the kids If Fab needed us to get a result there or any other coach did to help their team then I would like to think Rob would treat the game seriously just like Eagles and Fab did If that situation occurs and we still play kids then I would agree with all of you. This was a meaningless game for both teams. And impacted nobody but us by our loss. And that's purely on how close the table looks like for us. As it is I even agree that sending a whole other team is pushing it. But like I say the rules clearly must allow it.
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