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Post by raiders92 on Jul 12, 2019 9:55:04 GMT
Mvp are reporting that shire has left royals.... where does that leave them! Mentions the costa last year with modest crowds, they must have lost a small fortune
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Post by MansfieldMike on Jul 12, 2019 10:01:17 GMT
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 12, 2019 10:05:23 GMT
If ever there was a red flag about the direction of a franchise - I think this may be it.
I'll give them two years tops.
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Post by scotball on Jul 12, 2019 10:26:55 GMT
It will be the making or breaking of them.
I think it also highlights a major undiscussed issue in British basketball of not enough people available to work and/or volunteer in both the grassroots/development side but also the commercial / professional development side. The same people try to do both and something has to give.
Its one of the main reasons I think Division 1 is so underdeveloped relative to the BBL. Easy to blame BE but clubs should be doing so much more to commercially develop themselves (but you need dedicated individuals/teams working on it).
For his storied reputation as a promoter, I was very disappointed in Shire's development of the Royals over their first season. Very poor crowds (barring a couple of showpiece games), lack of visible commercial development / sponsorship and patchy social media and community outreach were masked by relatively modest success (considering how absolutely stacked their roster was).
If the right behind the scenes team gets their hands on it, I've no doubt that they can establish themselves very well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 11:40:20 GMT
Its their last season then. It's more than a red flag bigz it's a white flag waving in defeat
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Post by edware on Jul 12, 2019 12:14:02 GMT
Hmmm interesting one.
Do we know where the money was coming from last year? Shire mentions Jon Sawyer as "co-owner" in that press release, so who else owns the club? That roster would not have been cheap...speculating of course but maybe the supplier of said money has pulled out?
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 12, 2019 12:30:32 GMT
Its their last season then. It's more than a red flag bigz it's a white flag waving in defeat I fear you're right mate. |
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 12, 2019 12:35:03 GMT
Shades of Everton??
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Post by rideralex on Jul 12, 2019 12:36:50 GMT
According to companies house Jon Sawyer owns 325 shares, Nhamo Shire 300, Jane Sawyer (presumably a relation of Jon) 208, Appleton Entertainment LTD 100, David Gleasure 21 and Timothy Wilde 4. Appleton Entertainment seems to be indirectly owned by a guy called Tom Appleton.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 12, 2019 12:38:41 GMT
Everton was a more reliable source of sugar-daddyness. If that's a word. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 12, 2019 12:39:22 GMT
According to companies house Jon Sawyer owns 325 shares, Nhamo Shire 300, Jane Sawyer (presumably a relation of Jon) 208, Appleton Entertainment LTD 100, David Gleasure 21 and Timothy Wilde 4. BUT, BUT, LUOL DENG!!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 12:42:59 GMT
Mvp are reporting that shire has left royals.... where does that leave them! Mentions the costa last year with modest crowds, they must have lost a small fortune Is it a bad thing? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 12, 2019 17:39:06 GMT
Strange that he seems to think they will go onto bigger and better things in his leaving statement?
I can't figure this one out
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Post by blueskies99 on Jul 12, 2019 18:28:23 GMT
If ever there was a red flag about the direction of a franchise - I think this may be it. I'll give them two years tops. Two years?........... I give em' two months. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 19:01:56 GMT
Well that's a shock.
Jane Sawyer has chucked most of the cash in , apparently.
No one ever thought this could be a mess.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 12, 2019 19:41:56 GMT
Strange that he seems to think they will go onto bigger and better things in his leaving statement? I can't figure this one out The statement is a load of generic smokescreens mate. He wouldn't have left if he thought it would have gone on to be massive I assure you. |
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Post by elbasketo on Jul 12, 2019 20:05:17 GMT
The £££ came from the wife, apparently.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 12, 2019 22:25:13 GMT
Strange that he seems to think they will go onto bigger and better things in his leaving statement? I can't figure this one out The statement is a load of generic smokescreens mate. He wouldn't have left if he thought it would have gone on to be massive I assure you. Of course. Assuming he had a choice in the matter? Maybe there's been a fallout or clash etc and they all decided it was best he move on Maybe they can't afford to pay him any more? I just kind of think if he knew it was all going to collapse now he's gone he doesn't have to be say anything or be so positive! If he hadn't said what he said I would be assuming it was all about to collapse tbh |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Jul 12, 2019 22:43:46 GMT
Wonder what sort of a squad they will be able to put together. It's great to play basketball with all your mates you grew up with, however how many of them would be happy to do that and not get paid?
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Post by elbasketo on Jul 13, 2019 7:44:44 GMT
Wonder what sort of a squad they will be able to put together. It's great to play basketball with all your mates you grew up with, however how many of them would be happy to do that and not get paid? And I would add; “...and not get paid, above the going rate!” |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 7:51:58 GMT
The £££ came from the wife, apparently. I know it's from "a" wife, just not 100 percent sure which one |
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Post by saintpat on Jul 13, 2019 10:50:16 GMT
According to companies house Jon Sawyer owns 325 shares, Nhamo Shire 300, Jane Sawyer (presumably a relation of Jon) 208, Appleton Entertainment LTD 100, David Gleasure 21 and Timothy Wilde 4. Appleton Entertainment seems to be indirectly owned by a guy called Tom Appleton. And it looks like Tom Appleton isn't short of a penny or two, perhaps it's him with the funding. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 13, 2019 13:16:39 GMT
Likely the funding is cut now and Shire knows he can't make enough himself and/or for the big name players he brought in
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Jul 13, 2019 15:18:28 GMT
The £££ came from the wife, apparently. I know it's from "a" wife, just not 100 percent sure which one Why? How many wives has he got? |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jul 14, 2019 10:47:58 GMT
Likely the funding is cut now and Shire knows he can't make enough himself and/or for the big name players he brought in It'll be interesting to see what roster they can afford this season. |
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