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Post by fauxnicks on Jan 24, 2020 21:46:08 GMT
Talk us through the bits that are wrong, other than the link not initially working I didn't say anything was wrong. Just not very pleasantly worded was it. Yeah, feel free to brag about OJ, but not like that. Grow up mate
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 22:18:58 GMT
I didn't say anything was wrong. Just not very pleasantly worded was it. Yeah, feel free to brag about OJ, but not like that. Grow up mate This all sums this board up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 22:21:07 GMT
Would you care to elucidate on your last two comments?
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Post by benji on Jan 24, 2020 22:24:12 GMT
This all sums this board up. Yeah, they're not known for being fans of basketball kits on here.
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 22:28:18 GMT
Would you care to elucidate on your last two comments? I don't particularly think I need to, you've made it obvious that the Royals demise is a positive for you and your team. Other fans and teams have a little more class, bit of sympathy for the fans of the Royals, which is quite nice, especially less than 24 hours after the official announcement.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 22:37:05 GMT
Do you believe that any bbl fan give a sh it they've (Sorry, you've) gone? They stole the bbl trophy by pretending they'd pay players. They stole home court in the play offs. They stole a place in the playoff final. Shire screwed over a load of kids because he was too busy with his joke of a club. I'm not the one with no class.
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 22:43:11 GMT
Do you believe that any bbl fan give a sh it they've (Sorry, you've) gone? They stole the bbl trophy by pretending they'd pay players. They stole home court in the play offs. They stole a place in the playoff final. Shire screwed over a load of kids because he was too busy with his joke of a club. I'm not the one with no class. None of that is the fans fault, is it. Get off the forum and look around social media, plenty of genuine fans looking out for each other. Plenty of other BBL fans supporting Royals fans and sharing their sympathies with Royals fans. If your agenda is different then feel free to crack on. Just realise that you (and the Leopards by association) are looking bad whilst you do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 22:52:12 GMT
I think you're confusing people caring abou4 people losing their jobs - which everyone is sorry about- with anyone who is remotely savvy about basketball giving a crap about a short-lived joke of a basketball "club" folding. After all, no one other than you, on here appears to give a damn
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 22:55:25 GMT
I think you're confusing people caring abou4 people losing their jobs - which everyone is sorry about- with anyone who is remotely savvy about basketball giving a crap about a short-lived joke of a basketball "club" folding. After all, no one other than you, on here appears to five a dman Exactly. On here. Get yourself off the forum and into the real world. Plenty of genuine fans of other clubs supporting Royals fans right now. Other clubs as well. Choose to ignore that if you wish, though you need to realise you are in the minority. Real British basketball fans would be reaching out to Royals fans now, hoping to keep them involved in the sport. Keep them going to game so the sport as a whole can grow. Guess that's not you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 22:56:48 GMT
Yeah all those fans Hersey all 9 of them that showed up to games
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 23:00:47 GMT
I think you're confusing people caring abou4 people losing their jobs - which everyone is sorry about- with anyone who is remotely savvy about basketball giving a crap about a short-lived joke of a basketball "club" folding. After all, no one other than you, on here appears to five a dman Exactly. On here. Get yourself off the forum and into the real world. Plenty of genuine fans of other clubs supporting Royals fans right now. Other clubs as well. Choose to ignore that if you wish, though you need to realise you are in the minority. Real British basketball fans would be reaching out to Royals fans now, hoping to keep them involved in the sport. Keep them going to game so the sport as a whole can grow. Guess that's not you. I missed the bit where their fans saved their club. In real life, not clicking "like" on facebook. 16 years and counting. What have you done?
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 23:01:00 GMT
Yeah all those fans Hersey all 9 of them that showed up to games I'm sure the Leopards would love to have an extra 9 season ticket holders. This isn't rocket science. There is a British basketball family. Rivalries or whatever are irrelevant. Genuine basketball fans have lost their club today, keep them involved. Invite them to your club.
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 23:02:51 GMT
Exactly. On here. Get yourself off the forum and into the real world. Plenty of genuine fans of other clubs supporting Royals fans right now. Other clubs as well. Choose to ignore that if you wish, though you need to realise you are in the minority. Real British basketball fans would be reaching out to Royals fans now, hoping to keep them involved in the sport. Keep them going to game so the sport as a whole can grow. Guess that's not you. I missed the bit where their fans saved their club. In real life, not clicking "like" on facebook. 16 years and counting. What have you done? Wow. Just so you know, you are part of the problem. You've invented a bizarre rivalry that doesn't exist. Support the game. And remember, you don't know who you're talking to.
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Post by bagger on Jan 24, 2020 23:07:28 GMT
So on another note, how many teams have players at home at the Palace and “ moved on” ?
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jan 24, 2020 23:13:18 GMT
All bickering aside, its not a bad point really is it? Id hate to think anyone becomes disillusioned with british basketball due to their experience at the Royals. Im sure Vince would be made up to welcome them across town to the Lions, and I do hope the fans they did have(6, 100, 2000, whatever) keep their interest and contributing to the basketball economy.
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 23:16:44 GMT
All bickering aside, its not a bad point really is it? Id hate to think anyone becomes disillusioned with british basketball due to their experience at the Royals. Im sure Vince would be made up to welcome them across town to the Lions, and I do hope the fans they did have(6, 100, 2000, whatever) keep their interest and contributing to the basketball economy. Exactly, that is the priority now. The fans enjoyed a good year, we can keep that. Many of the fans weren't basketball fans before however, so keeping them interested and involved, no matter how few there are, is important.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 23:18:34 GMT
I missed the bit where their fans saved their club. In real life, not clicking "like" on facebook. 16 years and counting. What have you done? Wow. Just so you know, you are part of the problem. You've invented a bizarre rivalry that doesn't exist. Support the game. And remember, you don't know who you're talking to. There isn't a rivalry. How could there be? I don't know who I'm talking to because you've registered as abcd123. Did you forget your real name?
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 23:21:43 GMT
Wow. Just so you know, you are part of the problem. You've invented a bizarre rivalry that doesn't exist. Support the game. And remember, you don't know who you're talking to. There isn't a rivalry. How could there be? I don't know who I'm talking to because you've registered as abcd123. Did you forget your real name? Why are you being so confrontational? It's a bad day for Royals fans, leave it at that. Support the game, encourage the fans to continue supporting British basketball. That's it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 23:25:34 GMT
I do feel sorry for both of them. You continue to ignore that they cheated others out of success. . But you've talked crap all evening. So who am I talking to ?
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Post by abcd123 on Jan 24, 2020 23:32:34 GMT
I haven't talked crap at all. I've agreed with someone's thoughts on events, and had this discussion with you. That's it. I understand why you're negative about the Royals and what they did, I just think you should wind it in a bit. That's all.
It doesn't matter who I am, though don't go throwing around the '16 years, what have you done?' I'm more involved than you realise, and could share a lot which would clarify a lot.
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Post by foghirnleghorn on Jan 24, 2020 23:40:33 GMT
Bigz I'd spot on about Shire, he has done very nicely out of the Royals first season, bit a nice person, people should be looking in his direction rather than lambasting Jon Sawyer who trusted Shire with the money, it was too late once he realised what was going in to save the club. Oh and by the way Hersey, you talk some bollocks on here sometimes, go have another drink!
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Post by sussexbantam on Jan 24, 2020 23:50:17 GMT
Ooo - this kicked off whilst I was watching Scorchers revolutionary "no defense" system against the Rocks. Maybe I should have watched this forum instead. I might be less depressed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 0:11:17 GMT
Yeah, the fans, players etc. all deserve a huge apology and whatever else because it's not their fault but the rest of us absolutely knew this was coming. Not a week ago, not a month ago, but a year ago. It's been that long coming and you've had that long to prepare for it.
You are upset and have every right to be but this has been a trainwreck for a long time and why can't we all talk **** about LCR being that trainwreck and throwing out our "I told you so"?
Sad for you etc. but if you truly are a big basketball fan then LCR did one good thing at the very least and hopefully you'll be able to see what a toxic environment that club was and find another way to follow the sport in what is hopefully a much better and well formed business.
Don't treat this as a death in the family but a girlfriend that's cheated on you and ditched you for your cousin. You deserve better. Go find it.
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Post by saintpat on Jan 25, 2020 1:09:35 GMT
Wow, if nothing else, Royals have certainly proved to be the most talked about club in the league for the time they've been around!!
On a purely selfish note, I'm disappointed they've gone. As a sports fan, it's great to have a proper rivalry & although it was just over a year, it was becoming a decent rivalry. The crowd were larger & noisier when we played each other. The players were just that bit more passionate & aggressive when we played each other, both teams had many London players who knew each other well & none of them wanted to lose to players they'd trained with for years! I've enjoyed our wins over Royals more than any other team since we've moved to London & I've hated the losses more than any others. It could (& should with proper management) been a rivalry to carry on for many years & eventually we might have got to the same level of hostility & passion as Towers & Leopards had many years ago.
But it's all gone now, due to some woeful mis-management & whilst Nhamo has to take some blame, how can anyone splash the cash (whether it was his, his wife's or someone else's) without actually taking a detailed look at the league, the wages paid, the spectator numbers, the sponsorship currently being achieved etc. etc. I am sure that Royals management were given advice from the BBL & other BBL teams. I'm sure people like Paul Blake & Russell Levenston who are both heavily involved with the 2 most successful BBL clubs of the last decade would have been more than happy to offer advice, it suits them to have a strong BBL league after all. Sawyer either talked to them & didn't listen or didn't bother talking to them at all, either way I'm afraid it was crass stupidity. I have no idea what Nhamo told Sawyer, what promises he made, what figures he gave him but it wouldn't have taken much to check what he was saying( if indeed what he said was inaccurate). Perhaps Sawyer just thought he knew it all & wanted to splash someone else's cash to make himself feel successful & threw money at Nhamo & the team to make it happen. For me there's only one person that can possibly take the blame for the demise & that's Sawyer himself as he held the purse strings.
I feel very sorry for the players who've lost their jobs, I feel sorry for the people who haven't been paid & now have no chance of being paid(although if some were being paid 2-3 times the amount they are worth in the current market then I'm not quite so sorry for them). I feel sorry for the season ticket holders who have paid for tickets to games they'll never see ( I would hope the BBL will do the same as they did for Giants fans when they folded mid-season). I feel sympathy for their fans, although it's only been 18 months, its not like they've lost their club of 10+years & during that short time they've enjoyed many highs that wouldn't have happened if they hadn't massively overspent. Would some of them even been fans if Royals hadn't been splashing the cash so readily? I really hope they find another club to support, be it in the BBL or EBL & continue to enjoy this wonderful sport.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 2:01:54 GMT
Just an idea...
London Lions should offer to give LCR season ticket holders a season ticket for them instead. Yeah it wouldn't get them any money immediately but it'd get extra people through the door, spending a little on concessions nd maybe returning again next season.
Not like they don't have the space.
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