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Post by sussexbantam on Feb 9, 2020 19:05:31 GMT
Of course I'd watch it again to see if my memory is accurate but the video is "unavailable" on you tube... Definitely 2 fouls so the unsportsmanlike was correct... The 3 point shot foul - questionnable at best ! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 9, 2020 19:14:19 GMT
Did you watch the same game as I did? Where would you have found 30 points from. Yes from start to finish. He only kept shooting himself because it was working. If it hadn't been working we would have scored points other ways. We hit 50 per cent three point shots. Scorchers hit 40 per cent. Why change what was working? |
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Post by sussexbantam on Feb 9, 2020 19:19:02 GMT
Did you watch the same game as I did? Where would you have found 30 points from. Yes from start to finish. He only kept shooting himself because it was working. If it hadn't been working we would have scored points other ways. We hit 50 per cent three point shots. Scorchers hit 40 per cent. Why change what was working? Just to say - he was incredibly impressive. Some of the shots were wide open but some were definitely not ! |
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Post by dyb dyb on Feb 10, 2020 13:19:32 GMT
Did you watch the same game as I did? Where would you have found 30 points from. Yes from start to finish. He only kept shooting himself because it was working. If it hadn't been working we would have scored points other ways. We hit 50 per cent three point shots. Scorchers hit 40 per cent. Why change what was working? Yes, I get that you give a player with hot hands the ball and let him shoot whilst he's feeling it. The question or the point is that he hit a record equalling 10. How many times will that be reproduced? Some are bound to be good shots some down to Surrey's D especially when facing someone with hot hands. And how would you find a way scoring those 30 points another way? Would that be driving to the basket and picking up And 1s 30 times? (Actually wouldn't put it past riders) Not forgetting the other bit which seems to have been missed despite me raising it twice already; what about the D giving up 90+ points. Surely questions are going to be asked especially when we're often told on here how wonderful it is. Perhaps it's not the riders team that's disliked but posts and comments boasting how good Riders are and how they are going to win games, that when riders do lose we (most of us) pick up on it. As for losing individuals I can only point out sharks losing Tuck for the cwg and his wrist injury and sharks dropping down the league without him. Despite my efforts and arguments, sharks were deemed the worse ever, not going to qualify, Coach wanted sacking etc etc so does the same apply because Riders are missing their pg for a few games. |
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Post by padaceth on Feb 10, 2020 14:32:40 GMT
Yes from start to finish. He only kept shooting himself because it was working. If it hadn't been working we would have scored points other ways. We hit 50 per cent three point shots. Scorchers hit 40 per cent. Why change what was working? Yes, I get that you give a player with hot hands the ball and let him shoot whilst he's feeling it. The question or the point is that he hit a record equalling 10. How many times will that be reproduced? Some are bound to be good shots some down to Surrey's D especially when facing someone with hot hands. And how would you find a way scoring those 30 points another way? Would that be driving to the basket and picking up And 1s 30 times? (Actually wouldn't put it past riders) Not forgetting the other bit which seems to have been missed despite me raising it twice already; what about the D giving up 90+ points. Surely questions are going to be asked especially when we're often told on here how wonderful it is. Perhaps it's not the riders team that's disliked but posts and comments boasting how good Riders are and how they are going to win games, that when riders do lose we (most of us) pick up on it. As for losing individuals I can only point out sharks losing Tuck for the cwg and his wrist injury and sharks dropping down the league without him. Despite my efforts and arguments, sharks were deemed the worse ever, not going to qualify, Coach wanted sacking etc etc so does the same apply because Riders are missing their pg for a few games. It is his normal Riders rose tinted specs that he has on. The night before Eagles beat Lions but that was because the Lions were poor and therefore the Eagles had an easy win and had Eagles played another team they would have lost. Riders give up 90 plus points but still win and suddenly it how brilliant the Riders are. I do, however, agree Johnson got hot and why change it, that was the responsibility of Surrey to tried and stop him, they didn't whether they would have had as much success with other offensive plays is a mute subject as Riders didn't have to. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Feb 10, 2020 14:42:33 GMT
Yes, I get that you give a player with hot hands the ball and let him shoot whilst he's feeling it. The question or the point is that he hit a record equalling 10. How many times will that be reproduced? Some are bound to be good shots some down to Surrey's D especially when facing someone with hot hands. And how would you find a way scoring those 30 points another way? Would that be driving to the basket and picking up And 1s 30 times? (Actually wouldn't put it past riders) Not forgetting the other bit which seems to have been missed despite me raising it twice already; what about the D giving up 90+ points. Surely questions are going to be asked especially when we're often told on here how wonderful it is. Perhaps it's not the riders team that's disliked but posts and comments boasting how good Riders are and how they are going to win games, that when riders do lose we (most of us) pick up on it. As for losing individuals I can only point out sharks losing Tuck for the cwg and his wrist injury and sharks dropping down the league without him. Despite my efforts and arguments, sharks were deemed the worse ever, not going to qualify, Coach wanted sacking etc etc so does the same apply because Riders are missing their pg for a few games. It is his normal Riders rose tinted specs that he has on. The night before Eagles beat Lions but that was because the Lions were poor and therefore the Eagles had an easy win and had Eagles played another team they would have lost. Riders give up 90 plus points but still win and suddenly it how brilliant the Riders are. I do, however, agree Johnson got hot and why change it, that was the responsibility of Surrey to tried and stop him, they didn't whether they would have had as much success with other offensive plays is a mute subject as Riders didn't have to. Riders currently giving up 85 points a game in the league.
Not the mark of a great defensive team....
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Post by padaceth on Feb 10, 2020 15:02:26 GMT
It is his normal Riders rose tinted specs that he has on. The night before Eagles beat Lions but that was because the Lions were poor and therefore the Eagles had an easy win and had Eagles played another team they would have lost. Riders give up 90 plus points but still win and suddenly it how brilliant the Riders are. I do, however, agree Johnson got hot and why change it, that was the responsibility of Surrey to tried and stop him, they didn't whether they would have had as much success with other offensive plays is a mute subject as Riders didn't have to. Riders currently giving up 85 points a game in the league.
Not the mark of a great defensive team....
Totally agree but then equally the Eagles have always prided themselves on being a great defensive team. I still think we do play good defence yet on Friday night Lions managed 97pts against us. Sometimes the game just plays itself. Both Eagles and Lions went into full offense mode, which made for a great basketball game but I imagine those who are more tactically minded were probably pulling their hair out. Riders will have to tighten up otherwise they will get found out by better teams. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 10, 2020 16:58:04 GMT
I think we are capable of defending well BUT we haven't shown that too often this season. It's one aspect I think we can be fairly confident that'll improve as the weeks progress. It's always been a hallmark of Riders teams. It won't have gone unnoticed by Rob for sure.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 10, 2020 21:25:16 GMT
Yes, I get that you give a player with hot hands the ball and let him shoot whilst he's feeling it. The question or the point is that he hit a record equalling 10. How many times will that be reproduced? Some are bound to be good shots some down to Surrey's D especially when facing someone with hot hands. And how would you find a way scoring those 30 points another way? Would that be driving to the basket and picking up And 1s 30 times? (Actually wouldn't put it past riders) Not forgetting the other bit which seems to have been missed despite me raising it twice already; what about the D giving up 90+ points. Surely questions are going to be asked especially when we're often told on here how wonderful it is. Perhaps it's not the riders team that's disliked but posts and comments boasting how good Riders are and how they are going to win games, that when riders do lose we (most of us) pick up on it. As for losing individuals I can only point out sharks losing Tuck for the cwg and his wrist injury and sharks dropping down the league without him. Despite my efforts and arguments, sharks were deemed the worse ever, not going to qualify, Coach wanted sacking etc etc so does the same apply because Riders are missing their pg for a few games. It is his normal Riders rose tinted specs that he has on. The night before Eagles beat Lions but that was because the Lions were poor and therefore the Eagles had an easy win and had Eagles played another team they would have lost. Riders give up 90 plus points but still win and suddenly it how brilliant the Riders are. I do, however, agree Johnson got hot and why change it, that was the responsibility of Surrey to tried and stop him, they didn't whether they would have had as much success with other offensive plays is a mute subject as Riders didn't have to. I've said several times I thought Eagles looked good against Lions That doesn't stop me saying I think Lions are a shadow of last years team. Last years Lions team were quality and yet still would have found it very hard to beat Eagles in that kind of form. This years Lions didn't even come close. Just because I criticised Lions don't take it as criticism of Eagles. Eagles come out of this weekend with a lot of credit. And let's not forget some Eagles fans on here wanted them to forget about even trying to win v lions? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 10, 2020 21:29:10 GMT
Riders currently giving up 85 points a game in the league.
Not the mark of a great defensive team....
Totally agree but then equally the Eagles have always prided themselves on being a great defensive team. I still think we do play good defence yet on Friday night Lions managed 97pts against us. Sometimes the game just plays itself. Both Eagles and Lions went into full offense mode, which made for a great basketball game but I imagine those who are more tactically minded were probably pulling their hair out. Riders will have to tighten up otherwise they will get found out by better teams. Riders definitely need to improve. But we can still celebrate what was a very tough away win that took a lot of bottle. To back up a win against Lions who prior to that had strung some good results together. At the time I thought lions were better than I now believe they are. Eagles will be a way tougher game than lions was. And I didn't expect to be saying that. |
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Post by stevetino on Feb 10, 2020 21:37:46 GMT
Totally agree but then equally the Eagles have always prided themselves on being a great defensive team. I still think we do play good defence yet on Friday night Lions managed 97pts against us. Sometimes the game just plays itself. Both Eagles and Lions went into full offense mode, which made for a great basketball game but I imagine those who are more tactically minded were probably pulling their hair out. Riders will have to tighten up otherwise they will get found out by better teams. Riders definitely need to improve. But we can still celebrate what was a very tough away win that took a lot of bottle. To back up a win against Lions who prior to that had strung some good results together. At the time I thought lions were better than I now believe they are. Eagles will be a way tougher game than lions was. And I didn't expect to be saying that. You more or less conceded the league to lions a month or so back? 🤫 |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 10, 2020 21:50:54 GMT
TBF Johnson & Spencer have made a big difference to the team.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 11, 2020 5:31:59 GMT
Riders definitely need to improve. But we can still celebrate what was a very tough away win that took a lot of bottle. To back up a win against Lions who prior to that had strung some good results together. At the time I thought lions were better than I now believe they are. Eagles will be a way tougher game than lions was. And I didn't expect to be saying that. You more or less conceded the league to lions a month or so back? 🤫 I actually said that if we lose to Lions the league is pretty much over We beat them and eagles beating them has opened the league right up for everybody On results even Rocks are in with a shout |
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Post by stevetino on Feb 11, 2020 21:18:06 GMT
You more or less conceded the league to lions a month or so back? 🤫 I actually said that if we lose to Lions the league is pretty much over We beat them and eagles beating them has opened the league right up for everybody On results even Rocks are in with a shout Interesting eh 🤣👍 |
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