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Post by dyb dyb on Feb 29, 2020 18:55:25 GMT
Well we've found our seats. Not as bad as I thought. Behind our bench but way up on row R. Quite a view, different to our 2nd row at the tank!
Nice pint of Tiger by the way.
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Post by sharkfan on Feb 29, 2020 20:06:37 GMT
Sad news about McKnights loss
Puts the game in perspective
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Post by sharkfan on Feb 29, 2020 20:15:15 GMT
Its really tough to take, watching two players in Backovic and Montgomery who belong in the Sheffield league Div 2, where they would lose !!
Neither of them are physically capable of playing at any level defensively and don't have the skills needed to do anything at the offensive end
Play with a six man rotation, use timeouts and smart rotations to keep players fresh and take a chance on fouls
nuff said, this is so sad to see from a franchise with good pedigree
Couldn`t see Finch putting either of these 2 on the floor, but then he had balls
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 29, 2020 20:49:12 GMT
Riders looking good again
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Post by baldereagle on Feb 29, 2020 21:12:35 GMT
Great final quarter from Sharks - would McKnight have made the difference or would Riders have still ground out another result ?
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 29, 2020 21:18:42 GMT
Great final quarter from Sharks - would McKnight have made the difference or would Riders have still ground out another result ? The latter! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 29, 2020 21:32:31 GMT
Great final quarter from Sharks - would McKnight have made the difference or would Riders have still ground out another result ? We would have just won differently |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 29, 2020 21:56:22 GMT
I was ready to chuck a bucket of water on the court when it got down to a 4 point lead.
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Post by blueskies99 on Feb 29, 2020 22:32:09 GMT
Job done.......never in doubt  Good game management considering we play Lions at 16:00 tomorrow. Got the W......tick Avoided any serious injuries.....tick Conserved energy for tomorrow.....tick |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 29, 2020 22:43:15 GMT
Could have been tick, tick, tick, boom though. Letting a 20 point lead slip away wasn't good game management. Namon Wright and Cartwright produced some excellent plays. No wonder they were put back on in the closing few minutes to rescue the game when it was slipping away.
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Post by dyb dyb on Feb 29, 2020 23:23:12 GMT
A couple of things; I'll do it in 2 posts.
Firstly, a very honest and interesting question (I think).
A question posed by the other half when fouling to stop the clock and get the ball back. She cant see the sense of it and to be honest I've only ever seen it work once. Any how this got me thinking.
With the current league format where we only play each other twice. With us been 3 points down with 16 seconds left, would it have been better to take the loss there and then, let riders have the ball and do what they wanted with it, run the clock or even score another 2 - it would have been easier overturning a 3 point deficit back at Sheffield other than the 7 it turned out to be by sending Riders to the foul line.
We most likely wont be near Riders in the table come the end of the season, but I think it may be a point worth considering.
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Post by dyb dyb on Feb 29, 2020 23:41:21 GMT
Secondly, yes I feel McKnight would have made a difference, ofcourse he would have.
We also lost Backovic due to injury. I know, he's not a massive loss, but he's an alternative and gives other guys a rest. Something we didnt have the benefit of whilst Riders could rotate, rest, and even bring on better players as IRF so clearer stated earlier.
Without McKnight we played Montgomery, who had more court time in this one game than he has all season. Eddy even got a run out. I think that's a first. Montgomery was definitely no match to Cartwright and was well out of his depth.
McKnight offers us more scoring options, runs the floor, is our biggest player in assists and wouldn't have given Cartwright the freedom that he had. He's also better at free throws, too many missed tonight.
So yes, he would have made a difference.
Dont think we played particular well. Ofcourse some of this will be down to how Riders stopped us but some of it will be the flair and workmanship of McKnight. It was a more workmanship performance tonight and I think we did well keeping the game so close since we were up against the might of the Riders and we still managed to put up 80 points against their D - without Mackey's assists.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Mar 1, 2020 12:05:45 GMT
A couple of things; I'll do it in 2 posts. Firstly, a very honest and interesting question (I think). A question posed by the other half when fouling to stop the clock and get the ball back. She cant see the sense of it and to be honest I've only ever seen it work once. Any how this got me thinking. With the current league format where we only play each other twice. With us been 3 points down with 16 seconds left, would it have been better to take the loss there and then, let riders have the ball and do what they wanted with it, run the clock or even score another 2 - it would have been easier overturning a 3 point deficit back at Sheffield other than the 7 it turned out to be by sending Riders to the foul line. We most likely wont be near Riders in the table come the end of the season, but I think it may be a point worth considering. Agree entirely, however you need an astute basketball brain to work out those permutations which not all basketball players have ( and not all coaches TBH). Before each game someone should work out the situation against each team and likely ending of games actions. PJC stole the ball off Frazer with 6 seconds left, turned and hit a three reducing Rocks win by three. Really annoyed Frazer who whinged for ages after the game BUT it could have made the difference at the final league table. The fact that Nix had already lost the away game by a fair few points and the home leg was the same probably upset Frazer but you play 40 minutes with the new league set up. You, your "other half" and I think the same way. |
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Post by stevetino on Mar 1, 2020 12:42:24 GMT
Could have been tick, tick, tick, boom though. Letting a 20 point lead slip away wasn't good game management. Namon Wright and Cartwright produced some excellent plays. No wonder they were put back on in the closing few minutes to rescue the game when it was slipping away. Can’t imagine Robbie p being happy with That sloppiness? |
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Post by dyb dyb on Mar 1, 2020 15:15:59 GMT
A couple of things; I'll do it in 2 posts. Firstly, a very honest and interesting question (I think). A question posed by the other half when fouling to stop the clock and get the ball back. She cant see the sense of it and to be honest I've only ever seen it work once. Any how this got me thinking. With the current league format where we only play each other twice. With us been 3 points down with 16 seconds left, would it have been better to take the loss there and then, let riders have the ball and do what they wanted with it, run the clock or even score another 2 - it would have been easier overturning a 3 point deficit back at Sheffield other than the 7 it turned out to be by sending Riders to the foul line. We most likely wont be near Riders in the table come the end of the season, but I think it may be a point worth considering. Agree entirely, however you need an astute basketball brain to work out those permutations which not all basketball players have ( and not all coaches TBH). Before each game someone should work out the situation against each team and likely ending of games actions. PJC stole the ball off Frazer with 6 seconds left, turned and hit a three reducing Rocks win by three. Really annoyed Frazer who whinged for ages after the game BUT it could have made the difference at the final league table. The fact that Nix had already lost the away game by a fair few points and the home leg was the same probably upset Frazer but you play 40 minutes with the new league set up. You, your "other half" and I think the same way. I kind of get it and understand the thought process and I've had to explain it to her indoors more than once; how by fouling you stop the other team running the clock down. How you get the ball back, but chance your opponents scoring 2 from the free throw line. Sharks themselves came close against Lions this season, but when they guy you're fouling is Robinson, he's not likely to miss his free throws. Which is another part of the game. Opponents knowing that they're going to get fouled so they make sure a good shooter gets the ball. I've seen this actually work once. Funny enough it was the Sharks v Leeds. Sharks had the initial lead with Leeds fouling and chipping away at the lead, sharks missing their free throws. I can remember though a Leeds player 'winning' the ball off Baboloa who stopped expecting the foul to be given as had been done previously but there was no call from the ref and the player proceeded to make an uncontested lay up on the buzzer to win the game. Sharks were stunned as they expected the foul. The game lost. |
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