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Post by scotball on Mar 19, 2020 12:29:33 GMT
By the BBL going to one home, one away between teams in the league this season, aggregate score (as opposed to H2H) now decides tiebreakers between teams.
Personally, I like the two game series but I don't like aggregate score tiebreakers, although as far as I can see its how most major European leagues' tiebreakers are decided.
Also, by awarding two points for a win and zero points for a loss, even though the league is decided by points, it is de-facto just on number of wins (unless points deductions come into force).
With those in mind, do you think the current setup is the best option, or what ideas could we steal from other sports leagues to decide tiebreakers / make the league more interesting?
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Post by 2NFR on Mar 19, 2020 12:47:11 GMT
I think the main gripe this season has been the way the Cup competition was structured.
as for the pole, I'm leaning towards 2 but the BBL really needs to to take a hard look at changing the Cup competion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 13:51:40 GMT
Just play each other three times in the league. It all 11 clubs make it through this mess that gives a 30-game league season. Perfect.
I would like to seem s way of still making the Cup & Trophy different, though not by inviting teams who have no chance of being competitive into the Trophy.
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Post by ko25 on Mar 19, 2020 14:05:56 GMT
Just play each other three times in the league. It all 11 clubs make it through this mess that gives a 30-game league season. Perfect. I would like to seem s way of still making the Cup & Trophy different, though not by inviting teams who have no chance of being competitive into the Trophy. We've said it before just scrap the BBL Cup and replace with the Nat Cup. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 14:47:04 GMT
Scrap both the Cup & Trophy
20 game regular season, Best of 3 Playoff Series.
For the league, rather than going to OT, I'd try a 3 point shootout similar to the 3 point shooting contest, only you have 1 ball for each part, the team with the most 3 pointers after all shots have been taken wins.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 15:41:51 GMT
Scrap both the Cup & Trophy 20 game regular season, Best of 3 Playoff Series. For the league, rather than going to OT, I'd try a 3 point shootout similar to the 3 point shooting contest, only you have 1 ball for each part, the team with the most 3 pointers after all shots have been taken wins. This is hilarious. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Mar 19, 2020 17:31:06 GMT
Scrap both the Cup & Trophy 20 game regular season, Best of 3 Playoff Series. For the league, rather than going to OT, I'd try a 3 point shootout similar to the 3 point shooting contest, only you have 1 ball for each part, the team with the most 3 pointers after all shots have been taken wins. Much prefer OT to settle games. More exciting than watching people chucking up three pointers. All aspects rewarded, i.e. good defence & offence. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:50:37 GMT
Well if OT has to happen then shorten it from 5:00 to 2:30
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 18:03:45 GMT
I find your wish for less basketball quite bizarre.
Why don't we just have a weekend of All-Stars format games and then have a good rest?
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Post by isthaturinal on Mar 19, 2020 18:41:32 GMT
Well if OT has to happen then shorten it from 5:00 to 2:30 Jesus! What’s your next suggestion toss a coin or Rock Paper Scissors, Remember best of 3 wins |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 19, 2020 18:47:05 GMT
Well if OT has to happen then shorten it from 5:00 to 2:30 Jesus! What’s your next suggestion toss a coin or Rock Paper Scissors, Remember best of 3 wins Don’t say Rock Paper Scissors - Duncan Smilie will be releasing statements declaring he should win by default because the teams name is in the title. |
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Post by Walt Singer on Mar 19, 2020 18:47:54 GMT
Well if OT has to happen then shorten it from 5:00 to 2:30 This suggestion, and the earlier one, are ridiculous. How many Rocks games did you attend this season anyway? Weren't you also in favour of the "Rocks should be champions" argument? Not a view which is supported by most true Rocks fans, IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 19:08:28 GMT
What relevance does that have?
Absolutely none
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 19:13:31 GMT
What relevance does that have? Absolutely none That you've no idea what you're talking about, is where I think he was going. I'd be inclined to agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 19:59:22 GMT
What relevance does that have? Absolutely none You really needed to aim that comment at me. You're not doing well with this, but don't let that stop you continuing to entertain |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 20:05:38 GMT
Jesus! What’s your next suggestion toss a coin or Rock Paper Scissors, Remember best of 3 wins Don’t say Rock Paper Scissors - Duncan Smilie will be releasing statements declaring he should win by default because the teams name is in the title. Now that did make me laugh |
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Post by baldereagle on Mar 19, 2020 20:17:12 GMT
All this assumes 11+ teams will survive - sadly a 6 team league with 4 game series (ie 20 match season) might be more realistic
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Post by faz on Mar 19, 2020 20:28:54 GMT
Whose genuinely in danger?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 19, 2020 20:39:28 GMT
Whose genuinely in danger? Which clubs have their own arenas? Riders Eagles That's it isn't it. The others have less costs to worry about. Riders had had to work so hard to make the arena pay for itself. All the income gone overnight. But the costs remain. And they have lots more salaried staff due to having to manage the arena and trying to fill the arena with events etc. Must be similar for Eagles? The clubs with arenas will struggle by far the most. Weekly big costs. Zero income. Lots of salaried staff. The bigger the club with the more staff the harder it will be to survive. How much are the owners prepared to lose or borrow to keep going? Its not knowing how long this will last and the uncertainty that's the problem |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Mar 19, 2020 22:12:56 GMT
I recall once when Riders played triple overtime at our home court and in the end we lost. Was so disappointing BUT what a night that was for everyone involved. The level of excitement was unreal and I'm pretty damn sure nobody went home thinking 'Oh I WISH we'd settled that with 3 point shooting instead.'
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 19, 2020 22:21:22 GMT
I recall once when Riders played triple overtime at our home court and in the end we lost. Was so disappointing BUT what a night that was for everyone involved. The level of excitement was unreal and I'm pretty damn sure nobody went home thinking 'Oh I WISH we'd settled that with 3 point shooting instead.' Stop it hahahaha. |
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Post by sonjel on Mar 19, 2020 23:16:01 GMT
I recall once when Riders played triple overtime at our home court and in the end we lost. Was so disappointing BUT what a night that was for everyone involved. The level of excitement was unreal and I'm pretty damn sure nobody went home thinking 'Oh I WISH we'd settled that with 3 point shooting instead.' Do you mean the record five times overtime game Riders lost to the Brighton Bears (101-107) on the 22 January 2006? Stats hereIt was a Sunday afternoon game on my wife’s birthday. I don’t know who was the most exhausted - the players or the supporters! |
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Post by LTFan on Mar 20, 2020 13:43:36 GMT
Whose genuinely in danger? Which clubs have their own arenas? Riders Eagles That's it isn't it. The others have less costs to worry about. Riders had had to work so hard to make the arena pay for itself. All the income gone overnight. But the costs remain. And they have lots more salaried staff due to having to manage the arena and trying to fill the arena with events etc. Must be similar for Eagles? The clubs with arenas will struggle by far the most. Weekly big costs. Zero income. Lots of salaried staff. The bigger the club with the more staff the harder it will be to survive. How much are the owners prepared to lose or borrow to keep going? Its not knowing how long this will last and the uncertainty that's the problem It was interesting to hear the analysis on Makem Takem this week that the clubs with their own arenas (i.e. Riders and Eagles) are actually at the least risk because of it. I actually share your view though that owning your own arena is more of a liability than an advantage in these uncertain times. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 20, 2020 14:38:39 GMT
Which clubs have their own arenas? Riders Eagles That's it isn't it. The others have less costs to worry about. Riders had had to work so hard to make the arena pay for itself. All the income gone overnight. But the costs remain. And they have lots more salaried staff due to having to manage the arena and trying to fill the arena with events etc. Must be similar for Eagles? The clubs with arenas will struggle by far the most. Weekly big costs. Zero income. Lots of salaried staff. The bigger the club with the more staff the harder it will be to survive. How much are the owners prepared to lose or borrow to keep going? Its not knowing how long this will last and the uncertainty that's the problem It was interesting to hear the analysis on Makem Takem this week that the clubs with their own arenas (i.e. Riders and Eagles) are actually at the least risk because of it. I actually share your view though that owning your own arena is more of a liability than an advantage in these uncertain times. 100 per cent. Arenas all over UK are in trouble right now. Other clubs can mothball what they do with far lower monthly costs. |
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Post by LTFan on Mar 20, 2020 14:54:46 GMT
It was interesting to hear the analysis on Makem Takem this week that the clubs with their own arenas (i.e. Riders and Eagles) are actually at the least risk because of it. I actually share your view though that owning your own arena is more of a liability than an advantage in these uncertain times. 100 per cent. Arenas all over UK are in trouble right now. Other clubs can mothball what they do with far lower monthly costs. Indeed. Lions were considered most at risk on the assumption the Copper Box Arena will still demand payment even if the arranged games don't/can't go ahead. Which is a valid concern. But probably no more so than those of Riders and Eagles who are actually responsible for their own arenas. |
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