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Post by ko25 on Apr 3, 2020 9:44:59 GMT
Is the NBA returning to a non-arena, no fans quarantined site really a realistic possibility?
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Post by Solly on Apr 3, 2020 10:11:59 GMT
For the NBA, and pretty much all sports in all countries, I think there will have to be quite a rethink about spectators.
Will people continue to feel comfortable about being so close to others? I know its radical but perhaps capacities at venues will have to be re-thought. Obviously social distancing wherever possible is hugely important at the moment but who's to say that it now won't remain the sensible thing to continue for quite a time to come.
Even if the NBA, or other sports, want to consider non-arena, no fans quarantined sites there are still big issues to overcome. For a week or so after most sports had ceased I was still watching Australian Rugby league on Sky Sports being played in empty stadiums, with the coaches sitting apart up in the stands.
Those sports particularly exposed to TV coverage will have some particularly hard decisions to make. I, like many others, have now paused my Sky Sports subscription - Sky will have to pass the cost of losing subscriptions down the line to the sports they cover in terms of reduced payments, sportsmen will have to accept wage reductions etc...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 11:44:32 GMT
Fully believe the nba will return and pick up where it left off. However that will cause a shorter season next I think
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Post by youngrocks on Apr 3, 2020 12:44:04 GMT
Agreed. Finish the season. Expect pre season/summer league to merge. Maybe a 60ish game season
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Post by SamH on Apr 3, 2020 12:53:22 GMT
It sounds like they fully intend to do something but it might be as basic as several teams all using one venue, no fans. The key thing is getting sport back on TV to entertain people. The NBA understands that's what it's there for and they want to put on what they can if they can.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 14:56:51 GMT
No. The key thing is to make money. or rather lose less money. But I'm not against teams playing at a couple of central venues to finish off a shortened regular season before the play-offs on the same basis. I don't see the point in involving sides who have no chance of getting into the play-offs, though
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Post by ko25 on Apr 3, 2020 18:34:56 GMT
No. The key thing is to make money. or rather lose less money. But I'm not against teams playing at a couple of central venues to finish off a shortened regular season before the play-offs on the same basis. I don't see the point in involving sides who have no chance of getting into the play-offs, though Number one option is always get paid in this. Would that not be more like a pre playoffs playoffs? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:04:13 GMT
Good to see the wishful thinking about the return of the NBA and basketball in general. It’s a stretch to think that the NBA will return this year at all. Too many issues with this pandemic and they (just like soccer) risk being in the wrong side of public acceptance.
While people are dying by the tens of thousands, if not millions globally, advertisers (who fund TV broadcasters via commercials) will be cutting marketing budgets across the board . It’s just way too soon to think about sports coming back en masse until the pandemic is clearly behind us. On top of that, a massive recession is upon us.
There may be some NBA and soccer games played without fans, but basketball and team/group sports in general won’t return as we know them until next year at the earliest.
So it’s video games and a heck of a lot of reruns til then!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:15:12 GMT
Hi Ron. People are not dying in their millions. 53.000 is a lot , and 53.000 too many. And tv is funded by subscription as much as ads. But even by your standard of bull$hit that's a hell of an exaggeration.
I presume this will delay your fantasy league until the 33rd of nevervember?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:32:26 GMT
Hi Ron. People are not dying in their millions. 53.000 is a lot , and 53.000 too many. And tv is funded by subscription as much as ads. But even by your standard of bull$hit that's a hell of an exaggeration. I presume this will delay your fantasy league until the 33rd of nevervember? Dude, never mentioned my name and who is Ron? And what is your background? I’m completing my degree at LSE and a minor in sports media. To correct you, pay tv does depend on subs, but also advertising. Loads of commercials on TV here. You sound like a loser who like to pick fights but only online. Probably a jerk in real life for the sound of it. Still there will be no basketball until next year earliet! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:40:06 GMT
Ok. Ron. We'll ignore your Trump-like exaggeration.
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Post by SamH on Apr 3, 2020 19:55:01 GMT
It's to make money too of course but they'll lose more by not staging games and certainly by not having the playoffs. The TV revenue will be worth far more than ticket sales so playing with no fans us better than nothing. I think right now it's just too soon to really know what might be possible.
What puzzles me is there is still some sport going on. Horse racing in the States for example, or football in obscure places like Belarus. Don't really get that but it offers hope that if the spread reduces enough, some sport could restart.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 6:55:28 GMT
Come on Hersey hes not Ron, we all know that. He clearly stated when he started he play for the UCF Knights and was a bench warmer so he cant Ron. And all those bench warmers are still playing ncaa basketball so wait....how can he be living in london and playing in the states....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 10:48:36 GMT
It's to make money too of course but they'll lose more by not staging games and certainly by not having the playoffs. The TV revenue will be worth far more than ticket sales so playing with no fans us better than nothing. I think right now it's just too soon to really know what might be possible. What puzzles me is there is still some sport going on. Horse racing in the States for example, or football in obscure places like Belarus. Don't really get that but it offers hope that if the spread reduces enough, some sport could restart. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 11:02:24 GMT
I like Windhorst - he does some great stuff - but I fail to see how the CBA abandoning its season affects the NBA. It's like saying the Isthmian League has given up on 2019/20 so the Premier League is bound to follow.
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Post by youngrocks on Apr 5, 2020 7:34:21 GMT
The nba season will end at some point. They'll play to X amiunt of games and it will just be unfortunate if you lose out on home games. Reckon play offs will be best of 5 but the finals will still be 7. Expect alot of back to back to back games. Very few rookies now go straight into big minute roles and this years draft even more so. I could see pre season and summer league overlapping as teams rush to complete the end of their roster. I dont reckon theyll be a game in europe and i reckon next season will be limited to 60/70 games.
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Post by ko25 on Apr 5, 2020 9:07:10 GMT
From the sounds of it we might be getting a horse championship.
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Post by SamH on Apr 5, 2020 13:46:33 GMT
I like the idea of a 70 game season, playoffs run on a bit so next season starts say, end November and they do another 70 game season.
82 is too much and perhaps this can be the catalyst to force them into reducing it. By the 21-22 season they can have evaluated that fewer games is still perfectly fine and perhaps make it a permanent change!
Pipe dreaming maybe but that's what I'd like to see.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 8:45:13 GMT
It's all gone very quiet. Silver was supposed to be chatting to Trump on Saturday, but even speculation pieces seem to have dried up.
Teams have played around 65 games, so I guess if they resume in mid-late May they could have 70/72 games and get the play-offs over before the end of July.
Ignoring finances, I think everyone would be happy with a 72 game season (a nice number; you play your conference rivals three times and the sides in the other conference twice - and get rid of the pointless divisions). But is everyone going to take a 12 percent cut in revenue?
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Post by connors on Apr 6, 2020 10:03:42 GMT
I wonder if the players really want to play? There is an incredible amount of trust that says everyone involved in the game, albeit behind closed doors, has been tested and is not going to infect others.
I guess it depends on the players attitude to risk and who else they are in contact with.
One plus side of NBA games without fans.....the talking! Would be interesting to hear what is actually being said by players, coaches, officials etc. They will need to be probably on delay with editing for bad language and other such comments.....imagine the Premier League games without fans? Refs would love it!
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Apr 6, 2020 13:45:04 GMT
I wonder if the players really want to play? There is an incredible amount of trust that says everyone involved in the game, albeit behind closed doors, has been tested and is not going to infect others. I guess it depends on the players attitude to risk and who else they are in contact with. One plus side of NBA games without fans.....the talking! Would be interesting to hear what is actually being said by players, coaches, officials etc. They will need to be probably on delay with editing for bad language and other such comments.....imagine the Premier League games without fans? Refs would love it! Imagine the premier league with no fans. Still be the same, every difficult decision would have everyone looking at the big screen for minutes, only this time they'd be about 40 people watching instead of 40,00 in the ground and 4 million watching on Sky Sports. |
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Post by fauxnicks on Apr 7, 2020 9:43:51 GMT
I wonder if the players really want to play? There is an incredible amount of trust that says everyone involved in the game, albeit behind closed doors, has been tested and is not going to infect others. I guess it depends on the players attitude to risk and who else they are in contact with. One plus side of NBA games without fans.....the talking! Would be interesting to hear what is actually being said by players, coaches, officials etc. They will need to be probably on delay with editing for bad language and other such comments.....imagine the Premier League games without fans? Refs would love it! Imagine the premier league with no fans. Still be the same, every difficult decision would have everyone looking at the big screen for minutes, only this time they'd be about 40 people watching instead of 40,00 in the ground and 4 million watching on Sky Sports. And the decision would still go in LiVARpool’s favour! |
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Post by SamH on Apr 8, 2020 11:48:15 GMT
Ok how about this idea? Given that the season is not that far from over anyway, so for a lot of teams there wouldn't be much point coming back to play meaningless (for them) games in empty arenas not even in their city and certainly not if there is a small amount of risk still around to catch this thing.
So how about you finish the season where it is, take the standings as they are now and have a full 30 team playoff series? Thinking it could be something like the top 2 teams (Bucks and Lakers) get a buy out of round 1, leaving the other 28 teams to play a best of 3 series. That could be seeded or it could be top 14 records drawn at random against the bottom 14, or it could still be done by conference if they have central venues in the East and West.
The winning 14 join the Lakers and Bucks for the next round which is a best of 5 and it could stay at that until the final which would be best of 7, or it could increase if there is time and appetite for best of 7s in the final 8 onwards.
Say you have 2 central courts available and can play 2 games a day on each. Round 1 would be a maximum of 42 games but realistically about 35. That could be completed in 9 or 10 days.
Round 2 would take longer (and maybe could be kept as best of 3 to save time) but after that it would be fairly quick to get through the series.
I think this idea has multiple positives - it means every team plays at least 2 meaningful games; fans will want to watch these games; it gives every team an opportunity to have a run and maybe spring an upset here or there; and it can probably be planned and mapped out much better than my effort above which would still give them a reasonable finish point (depending when they can re-start). And it keeps the Spurs streak of making the playoffs every season alive! :beerchug
The only negatives I can think of are that 2 games isn't much for some teams to come back and get in condition for, but it still seems better than almost half the league playing X number of meaningless games if they can't make the playoffs now anyway.
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Post by faz on Apr 8, 2020 17:50:59 GMT
Wouldn’t want to get Warriors or Mets if all went to play offs?!
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Post by faz on Apr 8, 2020 17:52:24 GMT
Hate to be negative but I’m nit sure we’ll be starting our season next year yet alone the NBA finishing this year.
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