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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 23, 2020 20:01:09 GMT
So, doom mongers, do you believe that they'll keep schools shut during your time frames? Because if you have millions of kids bouncing off of each other both in the buildings and on transport to such plague pits , everything except keeping certain groups in isolation is pointless. Schools will extend opening hours. Spread the day and have less kids in at a time. Maybe half days etc or shorter weeks. And will be running with social distancing in place. (Based on plans in other countries a few weeks ahead of us) |
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Post by ko25 on Apr 23, 2020 20:06:08 GMT
So, doom mongers, do you believe that they'll keep schools shut during your time frames? Because if you have millions of kids bouncing off of each other both in the buildings and on transport to such plague pits , everything except keeping certain groups in isolation is pointless. I think we can be reasonably confident schools will be shut until September can't we, I'm aware from a meeting that what people are missing is there are a large number of teachers in the older age bracket and don't want the risk and don't want to teach. Also if there are social distancing measures in place then surely you'll be watching an empty court as how can the players play? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 23, 2020 20:09:48 GMT
So, doom mongers, do you believe that they'll keep schools shut during your time frames? Because if you have millions of kids bouncing off of each other both in the buildings and on transport to such plague pits , everything except keeping certain groups in isolation is pointless. I think we can be reasonably confident schools will be shut until September can't we, I'm aware from a meeting that what people are missing is there are a large number of teachers in the older age bracket and don't want the risk and don't want to teach. Also if there are social distancing measures in place then surely you'll be watching an empty court as how can the players play? It's going to be interesting to see whether they do allow sport to start again even without crowds. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 23, 2020 20:12:04 GMT
Sports like cricket and tennis should be ok. No contact and no real reason to be close to each other.
Outdoor even better,
Football, rugby, basketball though probably too much contact.
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Post by ko25 on Apr 23, 2020 20:18:59 GMT
So, doom mongers, do you believe that they'll keep schools shut during your time frames? Because if you have millions of kids bouncing off of each other both in the buildings and on transport to such plague pits , everything except keeping certain groups in isolation is pointless. Schools will extend opening hours. Spread the day and have less kids in at a time. Maybe half days etc or shorter weeks. And will be running with social distancing in place. (Based on plans in other countries a few weeks ahead of us) It's a nice idea but getting 100+ primary school children to stay 2 meters apart isn't going to happen. Regards to other ball sports every one has to handle the ball. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 23, 2020 20:25:37 GMT
Schools will extend opening hours. Spread the day and have less kids in at a time. Maybe half days etc or shorter weeks. And will be running with social distancing in place. (Based on plans in other countries a few weeks ahead of us) It's a nice idea but getting 100+ primary school children to stay 2 meters apart isn't going to happen. Regards to other ball sports every one has to handle the ball. Yes good point re handling the ball. Maybe golf then?? But then the golfers have to travel and fly to compete. And that won't be happening. Golf for the public but maybe not competitive |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 23, 2020 20:26:33 GMT
Schools will extend opening hours. Spread the day and have less kids in at a time. Maybe half days etc or shorter weeks. And will be running with social distancing in place. (Based on plans in other countries a few weeks ahead of us) It's a nice idea but getting 100+ primary school children to stay 2 meters apart isn't going to happen. Regards to other ball sports every one has to handle the ball. So many issues and problems to solve everywhere at the same time |
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Post by connors on Apr 23, 2020 20:29:02 GMT
Tennis would be possible. Each server uses their own set of balls. Opponents don’t touch the ball with their hands. Bit of a faff but just about doable.
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Post by ko25 on Apr 23, 2020 20:32:58 GMT
It's a nice idea but getting 100+ primary school children to stay 2 meters apart isn't going to happen. Regards to other ball sports every one has to handle the ball. Yes good point re handling the ball. Maybe golf then?? But then the golfers have to travel and fly to compete. And that won't be happening. Golf for the public but maybe not competitive Is golf a sport?  You're right there would be many things to solve it's all far deeper than just playing the game, on the face of it tennis almost sounds feasible until you realise they all share the same locker room along with all the other sports. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 23, 2020 20:35:17 GMT
Yes good point re handling the ball. Maybe golf then?? But then the golfers have to travel and fly to compete. And that won't be happening. Golf for the public but maybe not competitive Is golf a sport? You're right there would be many things to solve it's all far deeper than just playing the game, on the face of it tennis almost sounds feasible until you realise they all share the same locker room along with all the other sports. Anything competitive and international is just going to have too many travel lockdowns to be viable. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 20:44:08 GMT
So, doom mongers, do you believe that they'll keep schools shut during your time frames? Because if you have millions of kids bouncing off of each other both in the buildings and on transport to such plague pits , everything except keeping certain groups in isolation is pointless. Schools will extend opening hours. Spread the day and have less kids in at a time. Maybe half days etc or shorter weeks. And will be running with social distancing in place. (Based on plans in other countries a few weeks ahead of us) I can't see any reason to get kids to school to do half a day. Every other day makes more sense. Because part of the issue is the travel.
The standard senior school day could be squeezed into a "morning", which ended at 1.30pm, 50 minute lessons rather than an hour. You prioritise Y10 & Y12, Y7-9 could do three days a week, and the rest from home.
But the fact remains, once you let kids go back to school (mainly because it allows parents to return to work), social distancing becomes a myth.
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Post by baldereagle on Apr 23, 2020 21:46:56 GMT
The only Covid proof sport looks like darts, so perhaps we should get each BBL team to finish off the season with online darts matches - the foreign players wouldn't even have to return to the UK, and the bigs would have a definite advantage leaning over the ocky !
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Apr 23, 2020 22:24:19 GMT
Tennis is happening now chaps. We're not talking major events here, obviously, but that's beside the point. If two people stood 20 metres apart hitting a ball to one another was deemed that lethal this wouldn't be happening. I imagine it's probably quite a bit safer than going to the supermarket which most of us are still doing. I'm reading stuff today describing a May resumption of Bundesliga football as 'inevitable'. A tad bullish, possibly, but I think any suggestion that team sports won't return for 18-24 months is probably quite a bit more ridiculous. It may be some time until small hall sports can safely resume in front of crowds and it'll certainly be a while before complete normality is restored but one way or another we have to get the world turning again. Everyone locking themselves in their houses and staring at the ceiling for the next two years isn't an option. The Danish Superliga is another football league eyeing a May return and FC Midtjylland have a fairly creative plan lined up to bring in fans. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 4:44:56 GMT
Tennis is happening now chaps. We're not talking major events here, obviously, but that's beside the point. If two people stood 20 metres apart hitting a ball to one another was deemed that lethal this wouldn't be happening. I imagine it's probably quite a bit safer than going to the supermarket which most of us are still doing. I'm reading stuff today describing a May resumption of Bundesliga football as 'inevitable'. A tad bullish, possibly, but I think any suggestion that team sports won't return for 18-24 months is probably quite a bit more ridiculous. It may be some time until small hall sports can safely resume in front of crowds and it'll certainly be a while before complete normality is restored but one way or another we have to get the world turning again. Everyone locking themselves in their houses and staring at the ceiling for the next two years isn't an option. The Danish Superliga is another football league eyeing a May return and FC Midtjylland have a fairly creative plan lined up to bring in fans. The science, is the science. Bundesliga in Germany are bullish because Germany was aggressive with testing and contact tracing. Not the case in UK and US. Denmark, is well, Denmark. It’s also a psychological thing, it’s incorrect to assume people are just going to go back to normal, especially back to any indoor venue until a vaccine is found and widely distributed. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 24, 2020 5:32:55 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52379825This is an interesting article Summary The German government (and we will follow a lot of what they propose I'm sure) have already banned any spectator sport (indoor or outdoor) until the end of October at least I've already mentioned after then we've got flu season for hospitals to start dealing with so we won't be seeing relaxation of social distancing of rules in the winter. We are more likely to see rules even tighter than now when we face flu and covid at the same time. Outdoor sport in the summer was our best chance Bundesliga saying if the games don't go ahead in the next 2 months (for the benefit of TV and the public) 13 of the 36 teams in the league will do bust Most clubs have already promised their 4th instalment of TV cash to creditors they owe and are relying on it to pay the bills etc The games will need 300 people (not as fans but to facilitate including players coaches and subs etc) in attendance and for players to be safe to play they will need continuous testing for the virus and they estimate 20,000 tests will be needed just to complete the season You can argue if the tests DONT deny others from being tested the mental health benefits of people being able to watch competitive sport and their teams surviving may justify the costs of testing providing it doesn't stop others from being tested whilst tests are in big demand Already players are training together in small groups and avoiding close contact in preparation All the above could only happen due to the huge money involved from the TV rights Clearly not viable for BBL I'm also assuming if they are saying continuous testing of players will be needed if it were to be allowed to happen then grassroots contact sport ain't going to be happening For all of the above the government will need to weigh up the benefits against the risks and decide whether to allow or not Same will apply to televised competitive sport in UK where the money is there to allow the above to happen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 7:44:29 GMT
Denmark, is well, Denmark. Brilliantly insightful. Sounds like something your whackjob of a leader would say. Did you study science during your imaginary college career? |
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Post by DefyingGravity on Apr 24, 2020 8:05:08 GMT
And no one will risk taking their kids into an arena until it’s totally safe and that won’t be for another 18-24 months!! From some responses I've seen on Twitter etc, people will risk taking their children into an arena. |
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Post by youngrocks on Apr 24, 2020 8:22:15 GMT
If i am told it is okay and safe then i probably would. You could be at an arena and catch all sort of viruses normally.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 24, 2020 8:46:12 GMT
I'm going to predict other than high end teams in sport with money to somehow test players every week and with big money for TV no contact sport for anyone until April 2021 earliest
That will co-incide with end of flu season for us
And for foreseeable future if there is to be any contact sport it will be allowed April To October only so as not to increase covid risks whilst hospitals are at their busiest times with flu
So maybe a shortened basketball season (still heavily restricted) from April to October next season
And likely that's when football and rugby etc will need to be played (if at all)
All normal sporting competitions involving international travel, world cup, Europe etc put on hold
They've already said there's no guarantee Olympics re-scheduled for next year will go ahead
And they can't segregate kids in new classroom arrangements etc and timing arrangements and then let them play contact sports at the same time so grassroots sport and kids sport all on hold as well for foreseeable future
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 9:10:17 GMT
And no one will risk taking their kids into an arena until it’s totally safe and that won’t be for another 18-24 months!! From some responses I've seen on Twitter etc, people will risk taking their children into an arena. Yeah, but he's a "sky's fallen in" kind of bloke. If you're willing to allow your children go to school - and I bet there isn't a queue to home school until Jan 2022 - there's no difference going to an arena. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 24, 2020 10:01:53 GMT
From some responses I've seen on Twitter etc, people will risk taking their children into an arena. Yeah, but he's a "sky's fallen in" kind of bloke. If you're willing to allow your children go to school - and I bet there isn't a queue to home school until Jan 2022 - there's no difference going to an arena. Not if the arena has safe practises in place Right now the question is will contact sports be allowed to be played for anyone to watch in those arenas. Unlikely at all but the highest levels of sport I think. The rules of contact sports break all the 2 metre social distancing rules and safe practises. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 10:45:45 GMT
Yeah, but he's a "sky's fallen in" kind of bloke. If you're willing to allow your children go to school - and I bet there isn't a queue to home school until Jan 2022 - there's no difference going to an arena. Not if the arena has safe practises in place Right now the question is will contact sports be allowed to be played for anyone to watch in those arenas. Unlikely at all but the highest levels of sport I think. The rules of contact sports break all the 2 metre social distancing rules and safe practises. That’s a very interesting point. Why would players take any additional risk unless they were paid big money to do so. The other key issue, is in European basketball and especially the, UK teams are highly reliant on ticket sales to fund operations or on sugar daddies that own football clubs or other business that are impacted. Basketball will not be a priority and even when things return to normal, it’s not prudent to think that everything will come back online at once. In the meantime, it will be about survival and a lot of teams, leagues and entertainment businesses in general will go bust. That’s a nasty side of capitalism. That’s not “sky falling” talk, that realism. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 12:05:15 GMT
Because they wanna' play. I'd have thought as a former pretend college player you'd get that. And if it's your living, regardless of not getting rich, you'll want to do it rather than get the boring "normal" job you'll be stuck in when your career ends. The reality is that there's little chance of a fit 25-year-old dying of it because he played a game of basketball. There's probably as much chance as dying on the drive to the game. Especially if they're imports.
I presume you plan to steer clear of public transport in London until 2022?
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Post by New on Apr 24, 2020 14:02:54 GMT
daveballblog.wordpress.com/2020/04/24/this-awards-thing/I wonder why this Hersey guy is bitter about volunteers getting recognised. It is sad really and shows some jealousy. Stop moaning about others who are volunteering in the game. They are doing a great job in the game and you are not the only one who is involved in basketball in the country.
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Post by scotball on Apr 24, 2020 14:13:54 GMT
daveballblog.wordpress.com/2020/04/24/this-awards-thing/I wonder why this Hersey guy is bitter about volunteers getting recognised. It is sad really and shows some jealousy. Stop moaning about others who are volunteering in the game. They are doing a great job in the game and you are not the only one who is involved in basketball in the country. Are you for real or are you just stirring s*** for the sake of it. If you actually read the article, you would see it raises two fairly reasonable points which question the validity of the process : 1. Recognising people who get paid as volunteers. Paid = not volunteering. Would they still do it if they weren't paid? Why are they taking money when all clubs aren't flush with cash, and the money could go on something else? I'm not saying everyone should work for nothing, but if you're getting paid you forfeit being a volunteer. 2. Clubs not being asked for nominations. If clubs don't get the chance to nominate good people within their club, who will? I'm sure that those who won awards are deserving, but if some people aren't getting a fair chance to win the awards themselves is the process fair? No, to be blunt. This guest user tool allowing people to get away with personal grudges and sleights is just getting a bit tiring. |
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