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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 7:11:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 7:20:33 GMT
Love the thread title! I think we all knew this was coming a long time ago, hoping teams are too badly affected by all of this and can still put out a competitive season
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jun 1, 2020 7:23:03 GMT
Cannot wait for their statement. Its a shame because the league was hotting up nicely, but I dont think there was ever any realistic alternative.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 7:29:19 GMT
Cannot wait for their statement. Its a shame because the league was hotting up nicely, but I dont think there was ever any realistic alternative. They've gone with... "When the season was postponed Glasgow Rocks had completed 75% of their championship games and were clear at the top of the table with only 5 games remaining. It is disappointing but not in the least bit surprising, that the BBL board have decided to dismiss the efforts of our coach and players who at the time had proved themselves to be the strongest team in the Championship. Glasgow Rocks accept the decision of the BBL and will make no further comment on the matter." Duncan not-so-Smillie today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 7:36:43 GMT
I'm annoyed that the playoffs have gone back to old way without even trying the 3 game series tho
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 7:39:21 GMT
I'm annoyed that the playoffs have gone back to old way without even trying the 3 game series tho Same. I think that'll just be a one season deal though if all goes well. Seems like they're going to try cramp as many games as possible into the season so adding a "maybe" game into the mix makes it more difficult to try fit it in pre-Playoff Final.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jun 1, 2020 7:57:44 GMT
As paying fans (I know some of you are) would you be happy to forego any benefit your existing season tickets still have left for you
And start afresh next season ? (whenever that may be)
Or would you expect refunds or free tickets/big discounts next season
I ask the question as now the season is officially over I assume it gives fans and sponsors and advertisers etc the opportunity to ask for refunds etc
But we all know BBL clubs have very little resource and will struggle even without fans wanting refunds or not expecting to pay next season due to games not attended this season
What are your thoughts?
Should the club's just ask for fans and businesses for support in this to be able to survive and start again?
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jun 1, 2020 8:15:23 GMT
Cannot wait for their statement. Its a shame because the league was hotting up nicely, but I dont think there was ever any realistic alternative. They've gone with... "When the season was postponed Glasgow Rocks had completed 75% of their championship games and were clear at the top of the table with only 5 games remaining. It is disappointing but not in the least bit surprising, that the BBL board have decided to dismiss the efforts of our coach and players who at the time had proved themselves to be the strongest team in the Championship. Glasgow Rocks accept the decision of the BBL and will make no further comment on the matter." Duncan not-so-Smillie today. Im disappointed. I was hoping for a rather more gung ho approach and a picture of Smillie dressed as William Wallace with the caption "YOU CAN TAKE OUR 25%, BUT YOULL NEVER TAKE OUR TITLE"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 8:26:14 GMT
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Post by foxprorawks on Jun 1, 2020 8:41:47 GMT
They've gone with... "When the season was postponed Glasgow Rocks had completed 75% of their championship games and were clear at the top of the table with only 5 games remaining. It is disappointing but not in the least bit surprising, that the BBL board have decided to dismiss the efforts of our coach and players who at the time had proved themselves to be the strongest team in the Championship. Glasgow Rocks accept the decision of the BBL and will make no further comment on the matter." Duncan not-so-Smillie today. Im disappointed. I was hoping for a rather more gung ho approach and a picture of Smillie dressed as William Wallace with the caption "YOU CAN TAKE OUR 25%, BUT YOULL NEVER TAKE OUR TITLE" It's pretty depressing that the season ended the way it did, but I think we have to look at the bigger picture. Will there even be a BBL next season? Is any club really financially viable? The way things are going, the second wave will wipe out any chance of the league tipping off in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 9:21:49 GMT
and to think poor Duncan Disorderly said he would go to war to make sure Glasgow won the league. Arsehole of an owner.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 9:32:58 GMT
Im disappointed. I was hoping for a rather more gung ho approach and a picture of Smillie dressed as William Wallace with the caption "YOU CAN TAKE OUR 25%, BUT YOULL NEVER TAKE OUR TITLE" It's pretty depressing that the season ended the way it did, but I think we have to look at the bigger picture. Will there even be a BBL next season? Is any club really financially viable? The way things are going, the second wave will wipe out any chance of the league tipping off in 2020. As has been repeatedly said, keeping most basketball clubs in mothballs costs very little.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jun 1, 2020 9:34:29 GMT
Im disappointed. I was hoping for a rather more gung ho approach and a picture of Smillie dressed as William Wallace with the caption "YOU CAN TAKE OUR 25%, BUT YOULL NEVER TAKE OUR TITLE" It's pretty depressing that the season ended the way it did, but I think we have to look at the bigger picture. Will there even be a BBL next season? Is any club really financially viable? The way things are going, the second wave will wipe out any chance of the league tipping off in 2020. Thats the sobering reality of the situation isnt it. The two most financially sound clubs have arena costs hanging over their head and everyone else is up in the air over the reopening of their arenas. Sponsorship may go down the tubes due to economic turmoil and that will basically spell curtains for most teams. All jokes aside about Smillie (his partner Lows reaction on twitter is worth a look), its a grim outlook as far as Im concerned.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jun 1, 2020 9:35:49 GMT
It's pretty depressing that the season ended the way it did, but I think we have to look at the bigger picture. Will there even be a BBL next season? Is any club really financially viable? The way things are going, the second wave will wipe out any chance of the league tipping off in 2020. As has been repeatedly said, keeping most basketball clubs in mothballs costs very little. Its not about keeping them now though is it - its the restart when sponsors cant commit and clubs cant get more than a third of their normal attendance figures owing to social distancing.
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Post by Future on Jun 1, 2020 10:36:26 GMT
As has been repeatedly said, keeping most basketball clubs in mothballs costs very little. Its not about keeping them now though is it - its the restart when sponsors cant commit and clubs cant get more than a third of their normal attendance figures owing to social distancing. Said it before and will say it again......THERE WILL BE NO BASKETBALL UNTIL THERE IS A CURE/VACCINE FOR THE VIRUS. And most clubs in the UK and Europe will have to mothball everything until late next year at the earliest. Who in their right mind would want to watch a full season of basketball without fans. The fans make the atmosphere.....at least that's what Lebron once said I think. And most important, clubs can operate without gate receipts, secondary spend like food and beverage. No fans buying tickets also leads to no sponsorship. Wait for it...........maybe Barry Hearn can stage a few games on Sky to keep things going. I won't hold my breath! So no basketball until next year so we just stop with all of the wishful thinking and accept the new normal. Even more apocalyptic, with all the crazy race related rioting going on in the States, I can't even imagine football and basketball starting back up even without fans given most of the owners are Trump supporters and the most of the players are Black. We are in perilous times people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 10:43:59 GMT
It's a shame, perhaps it'll be time for a shake up of what is essentially an English league with a Scottish team tacked on.
We need to rip it up and start again but that begs the question, where do you begin, scrap all the national Associations and form a new governing body for Basketball in GB with a representative on the board being from each country?
What is stopping the Welsh from being in the GB setup?
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Post by youngrocks on Jun 1, 2020 10:44:35 GMT
Wouldnt listen and read much into what low says he was in the scottish press yesterday talking about stuff and the quotes have all been removed as he was making stuff up.
Every mid level pro sport has done the same. He hasn't really brought much to the table for the rocks except for eventually duncan.
Glad its official. I hope to see games on court this side of xmas and will remain positive until then.
Also this 2nd spike?? Wheres it happened in europe and the world? British MSM will bring it up and mention it yet no country has seen a significant increase.
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Post by connors on Jun 1, 2020 10:55:30 GMT
That certainly is a very dire prediction Guest! I can understand why you and others might go down that road but equally I think there is a willingness in general to try and return to normality. Therefore I think risks will be assessed and weighed up against equally unpalatable alternatives and we may find basketball is back this calendar year.
I do think the nature of our sport and the fact it is played inside makes it tricky. Other than rugby and fighting sports there are not too many others where people are indoors and in such close contact. It is also a very "handsy" sport if that is even a word.
As Hersey mentions in his excellent blog what I wonder is when BE are going to start making some announcements.
Sport can go on without fans....but only if somebody is willing to pay for it.
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Post by sussexbantam on Jun 1, 2020 11:17:10 GMT
If I were a Rocks fan I would quickly knock up a T Shirt declaring themselves:
"Champio....."
(That's 75% of Champions to save you counting on your fingers!)
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jun 1, 2020 11:33:04 GMT
As has been repeatedly said, keeping most basketball clubs in mothballs costs very little. Its not about keeping them now though is it - its the restart when sponsors cant commit and clubs cant get more than a third of their normal attendance figures owing to social distancing. Yep basically who or what pays the wages, the living costs, the transport to and from games. With a fraction of the income alongside potentially higher costs are we just looking at amateur or semi amateur competitive basketball in UK for a while ? Without imports or with cheaper imports? I'm assuming the game will become more like semi pro for a while - much lower wages - which were already low Covid safe and economical travel will be a tough one to crack with finances low at the same time
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Post by foxprorawks on Jun 1, 2020 12:01:03 GMT
Wouldnt listen and read much into what low says he was in the scottish press yesterday talking about stuff and the quotes have all been removed as he was making stuff up. Every mid level pro sport has done the same. He hasn't really brought much to the table for the rocks except for eventually duncan. Glad its official. I hope to see games on court this side of xmas and will remain positive until then. Also this 2nd spike?? Wheres it happened in europe and the world? British MSM will bring it up and mention it yet no country has seen a significant increase. In the UK, we've just eased restrictions at a time when the number of infections per day is higher than when we imposed the restrictions in the first place. That, in itself, is a recipe for a second wave. Has any other country done that?
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Post by ScottishHoops on Jun 1, 2020 12:10:13 GMT
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jun 1, 2020 13:39:03 GMT
Wouldnt listen and read much into what low says he was in the scottish press yesterday talking about stuff and the quotes have all been removed as he was making stuff up. Every mid level pro sport has done the same. He hasn't really brought much to the table for the rocks except for eventually duncan. Glad its official. I hope to see games on court this side of xmas and will remain positive until then. Also this 2nd spike?? Wheres it happened in europe and the world? British MSM will bring it up and mention it yet no country has seen a significant increase. www.irishtimes.com/news/world/coronavirus-south-korea-warns-of-second-wave-as-germany-sees-spike-in-cases-1.4249656Latest news link above - Germany and South Korea are facing problems already and their public are far more disciplined and careful than ours The images this weekend of what happens in the UK when we relax lockdown only slightly shows UK citizens are going to be amongst the worst in the world to be trusted to social distance when allowed to do stuff Sadly Luckily all our stuff is happening outdoors. Allow people to do what happened the last few days indoors and weve got no chance of conbasketball kiting this Give people in UK an inch and they take a mile
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jun 1, 2020 13:49:29 GMT
I think it would only be right and fair that Rocks are allowed to be called BBL Champions of Scotland for 2019/2020
Fair enough several teams from England could have overtaken them had the league been played out but for sure nobody from Scotland could have overtaken them had the season been allowed to finish
Someone from BBL should make a special trophy and send it to them (if they can afford it)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 14:20:11 GMT
It's a shame, perhaps it'll be time for a shake up of what is essentially an English league with a Scottish team tacked on. We need to rip it up and start again but that begs the question, where do you begin, scrap all the national Associations and form a new governing body for Basketball in GB with a representative on the board being from each country? What is stopping the Welsh from being in the GB setup? This is a bit of an obsession with you. The population of England is almost exactly ten times that of Scotland's. England has ten times as many BBL sides as Scotland. Of all the issues facing British basketball, Scotland having only one BBL club is very low down the list.
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