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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 13:52:40 GMT
Hearing a very strong rumour Josh has joined the flyers
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Post by blueskies99 on Jul 18, 2020 14:01:45 GMT
Hearing a very strong rumour Josh has joined the flyers .......similar to the rumor that Jamal Anderson was leaving the Riders?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 14:24:16 GMT
A better source this time, should never trust bbl players when they tell me things
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Post by raider001 on Jul 18, 2020 18:37:54 GMT
Hearing a very strong rumour Josh has joined the flyers Nightmare |
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Post by AJ on Jul 18, 2020 19:00:50 GMT
Hearing a very strong rumour Josh has joined the flyers Hopefully Plymouth sign Andrew Lawrence. |
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Post by raider001 on Jul 18, 2020 20:24:14 GMT
Hearing a very strong rumour Josh has joined the flyers Hopefully Plymouth sign Andrew Lawrence. I think they have, that’s why he’s gone. I heard he’s not prepared to ‘share’ his minutes. |
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Post by raiders92 on Jul 18, 2020 22:20:32 GMT
Surely any bbl player or a player looking to play in the UK must consider Bristol being right up there with one of the most attractive clubs to join look so professional and well run in a great city, also helps his good mate vigor has been there for a few years!! Obviously London sticks out due to location and Leicester due to recent success but surely there not to far back!!
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Post by AJ on Jul 19, 2020 4:55:36 GMT
I I heard he’s not prepared to ‘share’ his minutes. Yes I’ve heard the same thing about minutes |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 10:18:37 GMT
Surely any bbl player or a player looking to play in the UK must consider Bristol being right up there with one of the most attractive clubs to join look so professional and well run in a great city, also helps his good mate vigor has been there for a few years!! Obviously London sticks out due to location and Leicester due to recent success but surely there not to far back!! I reckon the most attractive place to play is Worcester. Mainly for the fact you go by bus everywhere and I reckon they have the shortest distance to drive while compared to well runness of the club and competitive level |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 10:19:11 GMT
I I heard he’s not prepared to ‘share’ his minutes. Yes I’ve heard the same thing about minutes Neither of you believe him needing to be closer to family then? |
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Post by AJ on Jul 19, 2020 10:40:03 GMT
Yes I’ve heard the same thing about minutes Neither of you believe him needing to be closer to family then? Nope |
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Post by faz on Jul 19, 2020 10:57:50 GMT
Bristol is a step up imo from raiders
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 11:02:52 GMT
Bristol is a step up imo from raiders Ok ill bite, in what way? |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 19, 2020 11:19:25 GMT
Yeah it isnt. Especially not now theyve had investors come in with higher level experience.
In fact, Id go further to say that if Plymouth have Lawrence, its an upgrade on Wilcher and they wont miss him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 12:12:35 GMT
Surely any bbl player or a player looking to play in the UK must consider Bristol being right up there with one of the most attractive clubs to join look so professional and well run in a great city, also helps his good mate vigor has been there for a few years!! Obviously London sticks out due to location and Leicester due to recent success but surely there not to far back!! I reckon the most attractive place to play is Worcester. Mainly for the fact you go by bus everywhere and I reckon they have the shortest distance to drive while compared to well runness of the club and competitive level I totalled it a couple of years ago and Leicester travel the shortest distances. This was including the Royals though but I doubt it changes things. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 13:22:26 GMT
I reckon the most attractive place to play is Worcester. Mainly for the fact you go by bus everywhere and I reckon they have the shortest distance to drive while compared to well runness of the club and competitive level I totalled it a couple of years ago and Leicester travel the shortest distances. This was including the Royals though but I doubt it changes things. I stand corrected, shortest distance and guaranteed a trophy (apart from last year) |
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Post by faz on Jul 19, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
Yeah it isnt. Especially not now theyve had investors come in with higher level experience. In fact, Id go further to say that if Plymouth have Lawrence, its an upgrade on Wilcher and they wont miss him. Oh dear forgot about the investment. Agree Lawrence a step above Witcher however one could argue about the coaches Bristol have plans for their own arena Bristol have been stable and well run fior a number of years Good fan base in Plymouth though The years of madness are etched in my memory and still the best farce imo but a few have run you close maybe royals are number 1. |
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Post by Solly on Jul 19, 2020 17:38:13 GMT
Because of the latest Turkish investment it may currently seem that Plymouth is an upgrade on Bristol.
But, while not failing to respect Plymouth's consistently-strong fanbase, Bristol looks to have the greater long-term prospects.
Geography will always hamper Raiders to a much-greater extent than any other club in the country.
Liverpool, Royals etc. - we've all seen examples of the crash-and-burn that sudden investment brings.
How sure can we be of the Turk's motives. Why is he investing? If basketball success is the aim, why would he be involved in Plymouth when he could get involved in a bigger market, even if he only limited himself to the BBL.
I've seen all the stuff about education links etc. but it still leaves me uneasy.
I understand that it would be very difficult for any club to turn down the sort of funds the Turk is apparently going to throw in, but where is this all going to go?
Where's the long-term view? Or are we going to get another of the grab-what-you-can-while-you-can scenarios and don't think too much about what may happen tomorrow...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 17:52:46 GMT
Because of the latest Turkish investment it may currently seem that Plymouth is an upgrade on Bristol. But, while not failing to respect Plymouth's consistently-strong fanbase, Bristol looks to have the greater long-term prospects. Geography will always hamper Raiders to a much-greater extent than any other club in the country. Liverpool, Royals etc. - we've all seen examples of the crash-and-burn that sudden investment brings. How sure can we be of the Turk's motives. Why is he investing? If basketball success is the aim, why would he be involved in Plymouth when he could get involved in a bigger market, even if he only limited himself to the BBL. I've seen all the stuff about education links etc. but it still leaves me uneasy. I understand that it would be very difficult for any club to turn down the sort of funds the Turk is apparently going to throw in, but where is this all going to go? Where's the long-term view? Or are we going to get another of the grab-what-you-can-while-you-can scenarios and don't think too much about what may happen tomorrow... They chose plymouth because this is where their offices are. I share your worry of what happens when he wants out, luckily he doesn't own it all |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 17:55:41 GMT
Yeah it isnt. Especially not now theyve had investors come in with higher level experience. In fact, Id go further to say that if Plymouth have Lawrence, its an upgrade on Wilcher and they wont miss him. Oh dear forgot about the investment. Agree Lawrence a step above Witcher however one could argue about the coaches Bristol have plans for their own arena Bristol have been stable and well run fior a number of years Good fan base in Plymouth though The years of madness are etched in my memory and still the best farce imo but a few have run you close maybe royals are number 1. Its a shame that 5 years of Bob Widdecombe destroys our clubs 40 year legacy but i get why you would think that. The whole coachea debate i agree, I think Kapoulos is great, but he's been found out, he needs to change now or the spiral downwards will continue. The own arena thing does make me laugh, our plans for our own arena were made public before bristols, the actual plans look lovely too. But everyone and his dog seems to forget we were doing the same. |
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Post by Solly on Jul 19, 2020 18:06:45 GMT
While I think about it, another South Coast sports situation that has aspects of similarity.
Poole Speedway. Long-known as the Manchester United of speedway.
Year after year they signed all the top riders, to the extent that they became hated by many fans of other clubs.
Year after year they won more trophies than anyone else.
But the sport as a whole is diminishing.
Now Poole have chosen to drop down from the top-level.
What, a la Liverpool and Royals, is the point of being top-boy if you are only top-boy in a restricted market.
Unless the Turk wants to go Euro with Plymouth (and would they meet all the venue requirements etc?) then what is the point of his investment?
His firm may be based in Plymouth but if I wanted the big-time I would not be held back by dint of my location.
Something doesn't smell right. Almost fishy I guess you could say...
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Post by AJ on Jul 19, 2020 18:11:14 GMT
Yeah it isnt. Especially not now theyve had investors come in with higher level experience. In fact, Id go further to say that if Plymouth have Lawrence, its an upgrade on Wilcher and they wont miss him. Fully agree with this |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 18:14:46 GMT
While I think about it, another South Coast sports situation that has aspects of similarity. Poole Speedway. Long-known as the Manchester United of speedway. Year after year they signed all the top riders, to the extent that they became hated by many fans of other clubs. Year after year they won more trophies than anyone else. But the sport as a whole is diminishing. Now Poole have chosen to drop down from the top-level. What, a la Liverpool and Royals, is the point of being top-boy if you are only top-boy in a restricted market. Unless the Turk wants to go Euro with Plymouth (and would they meet all the venue requirements etc?) then what is the point of his investment? His firm may be based in Plymouth but if I wanted the big-time I would not be held back by dint of my location. Something doesn't smell right. Almost fishy I guess you could say... They fully aim for Europe dont worry, this isn't their first team either, we are the little brother of the top flight turkiah league team |
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Post by raiders92 on Jul 19, 2020 18:20:25 GMT
Personally with raiders even if things go wrong the fan base is so loyal and strong I could see them with standing the investor pulling out!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 8:09:47 GMT
I lpve reading about Bristol's shiny new venue. It's taken six years to produce some pretty pictures. How long before a brick gets laid?
Re Wilcher, even if they're now rich i doubt Plymouth want to pay starters money for a bench player and i imagine he's worried that once he becomes a pench player he'll be stuck there forever
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