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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 19:08:35 GMT
It seems Dunkster is desperate to create an argument & make himself look stupid! He's clearly at least succeeding with the 2nd part! He sounds exactly like "Gareth" and "Yeoman". Neither of whom were Ron scott. Probably |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jul 27, 2020 19:38:05 GMT
Well I for one would have loved Williams to sign for Riders. Super exciting player and no doubt he'll be popular with Lions fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 19:41:29 GMT
You've moved on quickly from bottling the bet i offered you Not at all I’m game! £1000 that the BBL season will not move forward by Oct 23 with the following conditions: 1. For the season start to be deemed active, all 11 clubs must have competed rosters with a minimum of 10 players per team 2. All teams must complete at least one home game for season to be deemed active 3. Monies to be held at mutually agreed escrow agent If you are good with these conditions, let’s trade emails on private and get the ball rolling. Let’s see what you got cause you talk big game on this forum. Can you back it up?? |
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Post by samgray on Jul 28, 2020 19:57:49 GMT
The 10 players per roster is quite a caveat to throw in there 🤣 is that 10 players all season or per game? If it’s per game you’re a funny *******.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 20:00:52 GMT
You've moved on quickly from bottling the bet i offered you Not at all I’m game! £1000 that the BBL season will not move forward by Oct 23 with the following conditions: 1. For the season start to be deemed active, all 11 clubs must have competed rosters with a minimum of 10 players per team 2. All teams must complete at least one home game for season to be deemed active 3. Monies to be held at mutually agreed escrow agent If you are good with these conditions, let’s trade emails on private and get the ball rolling. Let’s see what you got cause you talk big game on this forum. Can you back it up?? That's significantly different to
Although it's possible you don't know the difference between "cancelled" and "postponed"
And it's also significantly different to
Fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 20:05:24 GMT
Not at all I’m game! £1000 that the BBL season will not move forward by Oct 23 with the following conditions: 1. For the season start to be deemed active, all 11 clubs must have competed rosters with a minimum of 10 players per team 2. All teams must complete at least one home game for season to be deemed active 3. Monies to be held at mutually agreed escrow agent If you are good with these conditions, let’s trade emails on private and get the ball rolling. Let’s see what you got cause you talk big game on this forum. Can you back it up?? That's significantly different to
Although it's possible you don't know the difference between "cancelled" and "postponed"
And it's also significantly different to
Fact.
I don’t see the problem with those conditions. If a real season is gonna happen, you win £1k. I would hate to lose my bar mitzvah money but I’m down for this. Are you? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 21:13:22 GMT
Well of course you don't. you're trying to not just move the goalposts a bit, but uproot them and take them off to a different pitch.
But here we go:
If a team went under in the next few weeks the season wouldn't be cancelled.
If a team was unable to play a home game in October (or any game at all) due to a local lockdown, the season wouldn't be cancelled. D1 would have been cancelled in your view in two of the last three seasons because Lituanica went under in '17 and some dickheads burned down our venue in '19 and went played our first home game in late October.
If a club had a nightmare with visas (and this could easily happen, there's still no clarification on certain things) they could easily be running an 8/9 man roster in October. No one is technically signed until they have a CoS and visa.
My offer is based on
and I'll happily take your money based on that statement. But it turns our even you know that your spout BS most of the time. |
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Post by youngrocks on Jul 29, 2020 7:54:22 GMT
I can seriously see alot of teams running with an 8 player roster especially for away games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 10:45:12 GMT
Well of course you don't. you're trying to not just move the goalposts a bit, but uproot them and take them off to a different pitch.
But here we go:
If a team went under in the next few weeks the season wouldn't be cancelled.
If a team was unable to play a home game in October (or any game at all) due to a local lockdown, the season wouldn't be cancelled. D1 would have been cancelled in your view in two of the last three seasons because Lituanica went under in '17 and some dickheads burned down our venue in '19 and went played our first home game in late October.
If a club had a nightmare with visas (and this could easily happen, there's still no clarification on certain things) they could easily be running an 8/9 man roster in October. No one is technically signed until they have a CoS and visa.
My offer is based on
and I'll happily take your money based on that statement. But it turns our even you know that your spout BS most of the time. I'd have to admit that I'm not familiar with all the nuances you've raised and cannot understand why a team wouldn't have at least 10-12 signed players to be called a "team", but pardon my ignorance. Cancelled season or postponed season, the BBL will not be commencing and playing its regular season by Oct 23. If you're amenable lets get it done and please take my money! And stop with the personal attacks, all in good fun bro. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 11:04:16 GMT
Just to make it a bit easier for you 2. If you want to have your bet here are some very simple rules which define whether the season has been cancelled or not.
If the bbl announce the league will not commence
Bit of a strange way to tell i know but I think its fair
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 29, 2020 11:26:54 GMT
Just to make it a bit easier for you 2. If you want to have your bet here are some very simple rules which define whether the season has been cancelled or not. If the bbl announce the league will not commence Bit of a strange way to tell i know but I think its fair I will bet £25 of my family's hard earned cash that there's not a chance in hell either of them two trusts each another enough to bet £1k on anything together. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Jul 29, 2020 11:29:04 GMT
Just to make it a bit easier for you 2. If you want to have your bet here are some very simple rules which define whether the season has been cancelled or not. If the bbl announce the league will not commence Bit of a strange way to tell i know but I think its fair I will bet £25 of my family's hard earned cash that there's not a chance in hell either of them two trusts each another enough to bet £1k on anything together. I bet you're right. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 11:45:36 GMT
Well of course you don't. you're trying to not just move the goalposts a bit, but uproot them and take them off to a different pitch.
But here we go:
If a team went under in the next few weeks the season wouldn't be cancelled.
If a team was unable to play a home game in October (or any game at all) due to a local lockdown, the season wouldn't be cancelled. D1 would have been cancelled in your view in two of the last three seasons because Lituanica went under in '17 and some dickheads burned down our venue in '19 and went played our first home game in late October.
If a club had a nightmare with visas (and this could easily happen, there's still no clarification on certain things) they could easily be running an 8/9 man roster in October. No one is technically signed until they have a CoS and visa.
My offer is based on
and I'll happily take your money based on that statement. But it turns our even you know that your spout BS most of the time. I'd have to admit that I'm not familiar with all the nuances you've raised and cannot understand why a team wouldn't have at least 10-12 signed players to be called a "team", but pardon my ignorance. Cancelled season or postponed season, the BBL will not be commencing and playing its regular season by Oct 23. If you're amenable lets get it done and please take my money! And stop with the personal attacks, all in good fun bro. I've explained why they may only have nine players registered (genuinely registered, not hoping to get a visa), if that's beyond the high basketball IQ you claim to have so be it. The bit I've bolded is not the same as
which is what I've offered you the bet on. The idea that the BBL would give up on its season after a month's delay is laughable, which is you were offered the bet. But if you don't want to be called out on ridiculous claims, don't make them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 14:30:17 GMT
I'd have to admit that I'm not familiar with all the nuances you've raised and cannot understand why a team wouldn't have at least 10-12 signed players to be called a "team", but pardon my ignorance. Cancelled season or postponed season, the BBL will not be commencing and playing its regular season by Oct 23. If you're amenable lets get it done and please take my money! And stop with the personal attacks, all in good fun bro. I've explained why they may only have nine players registered (genuinely registered, not hoping to get a visa), if that's beyond the high basketball IQ you claim to have so be it. The bit I've bolded is not the same as
which is what I've offered you the bet on. The idea that the BBL would give up on its season after a month's delay is laughable, which is you were offered the bet. But if you don't want to be called out on ridiculous claims, don't make them.
Look, either they will be playing team ball with adequate rosters by the 23rd of October on not.....everything else is just semantics. Are you willing to take the bet that as a league they will not be playing games when the BBL season is poised to commence? Simple answer. |
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Post by LTFan on Jul 29, 2020 14:38:14 GMT
dunkster said: My guess is that within 90 days BBL basketball will be cancelled in the U.K.A ludicrous statement to make to be honest, for many reasons. What is 'cancelled'? No BBL this season? No BBL ever again? Also, ' cancelled in the U.K.'? Well where else would BBL basketball be cancelled?  |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 29, 2020 14:45:15 GMT
dunkster said: My guess is that within 90 days BBL basketball will be cancelled in the U.K.A ludicrous statement to make to be honest, for many reasons. What is 'cancelled'? No BBL this season? No BBL ever again? Also, ' cancelled in the U.K.'? Well where else would BBL basketball be cancelled? I'm more than happy to go against Hersey when I feel it's warranted on here In this case I think you are playing with semantics yourself Dunkster The bet he offered you is different to the one you now want him to accept I think it's time to move on as the bet ain't going to happen either way |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 14:47:55 GMT
dunkster said: My guess is that within 90 days BBL basketball will be cancelled in the U.K.A ludicrous statement to make to be honest, for many reasons. What is 'cancelled'? No BBL this season? No BBL ever again? Also, ' cancelled in the U.K.'? Well where else would BBL basketball be cancelled? I'm more than happy to go against Hersey when I feel it's warranted on here In this case I think you are playing with semantics yourself Dunkster The bet he offered you is different to the one you now want him to accept I think it's time to move on as the bet ain't going to happen either way Fair enough, but if the season is going to start (which it is not) can't see the issue. He said he wants to take my money, well its right here bro. |
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Post by LTFan on Jul 29, 2020 15:06:17 GMT
I'm more than happy to go against Hersey when I feel it's warranted on here In this case I think you are playing with semantics yourself Dunkster The bet he offered you is different to the one you now want him to accept I think it's time to move on as the bet ain't going to happen either way Fair enough, but if the season is going to start (which it is not) can't see the issue. He said he wants to take my money, well its right here bro. Regardless of the bet, there's a big difference between not starting as scheduled in October and not starting at all. You've always said you don't think there'll be any BBL until late 2021 at the earliest. That's what Hersey was trying to get you to commit to. Personally I don't think the BBL will start in October. But I do still think there'll be a season. That's just my current opinion. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 29, 2020 15:09:05 GMT
I'm more than happy to go against Hersey when I feel it's warranted on here In this case I think you are playing with semantics yourself Dunkster The bet he offered you is different to the one you now want him to accept I think it's time to move on as the bet ain't going to happen either way Fair enough, but if the season is going to start (which it is not) can't see the issue. He said he wants to take my money, well its right here bro. But there's a big difference between the start of a season being delayed and the whole season being cancelled With your new bet you would win even if it were delayed a couple of weeks? That's not the bet he offered you Dunkster. From what I can remember. I honestly haven't checked. Cancelling a season is a lot different to delaying the start. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 29, 2020 15:09:27 GMT
Fair enough, but if the season is going to start (which it is not) can't see the issue. He said he wants to take my money, well its right here bro. Regardless of the bet, there's a big difference between not starting as scheduled in October and not starting at all. You've always said you don't think there'll be any BBL until late 2021 at the earliest. That's what Hersey was trying to get you to commit to. Personally I don't think the BBL will start in October. But I do still think there'll be a season. That's just my current opinion. Yep you've read it the same as me Although it's possible they could start in October behind closed doors If some money arrives from somewhere to cover the costs |
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Post by LTFan on Jul 29, 2020 15:19:49 GMT
interestedridersfan and @hersey427 finding a common ground, supporting, and agreeing with each other... there is 'hope'.  I've liked my own post for that one. 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 15:38:28 GMT
If dunky can't see the difference between what he originally said and what he's now trying to get me to bet on I'm beginning to doubt he even went to college. He's sounding more like his country's glorious leader with each rambling post.
I think tbe bbl could start in October but whether they can get enough in the arenas to make it worthwhile is the issue. Closed doors is pointless when you can lop three weeks off tbe season by halving the Cup group stage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 16:08:38 GMT
If dunky can't see the difference between what he originally said and what he's now trying to get me to bet on I'm beginning to doubt he even went to college. He's sounding more like his country's glorious leader with each rambling post. I think tbe bbl could start in October but whether they can get enough in the arenas to make it worthwhile is the issue. Closed doors is pointless when you can lop three weeks off tbe season by halving the Cup group stage If I recall, the BBL cancelled the season after postponing it for a looooong time after the NBA, Euroleague and FIBA even cancelled which demonstrates lack of accepting the inevitable. So our in our case Hersey, if they postponed and then subsequently cancelled by say December 23 (two full months) I'm still game. My position has always been that there will be no basketball until 2021 which you've disagreed on several occasions. Happy to find middle ground but the BBL has not been the most forthcoming during this pandemic. Announcing signings and all that is just window dressing and in the case of the Lions playing in BCL, same thing. They too won't be playing on 15 Sep (I'm happy to take that bet too). Even you stance has change from there will be basketball to 'it depend if fans are allowed back". But please, come take my money or quid as you guys say! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 29, 2020 16:20:35 GMT
So does anybody see a scenario where BBL does start the season behind closed doors?
As that seems to be what's happening with other sports.
We know normally that wouldn't make financial sense in BBL whereas there is other significant income in the other sports?
Even if they start with crowds they must already realise they will be severely restricted crowds and in terms of income the tickets available for the early games may have to go to last seasons season ticket holders anyway to prevent refunds from last season
Are we ruling out entirely the league could start without crowds?
Are we missing something?
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Post by davef on Jul 29, 2020 16:44:57 GMT
So now I'm reading that the NBA actually cancelled in March?
Wonder whats starting up tomorrow night
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