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Post by saintpat on Aug 4, 2020 14:29:57 GMT
Looks like this could be another signing for Lions. Little less sure about this one but only because it's a more unknown for me. No idea of the quality of the league he played in last year. link |
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Post by Solly on Aug 4, 2020 15:17:40 GMT
While giving respect to Lions for entering Europe, its unclear whether this and any other of their signings (apart from the NBA guy if he gets back to form) are any great improvement on last season's roster.
Last season Lions were often bested by BBL rivals so it is difficult to see them even getting close to Leicester's achievements in Europe.
I'm not wishing for Lions to fail, its good for the BBL if they do well. However they could cause more harm than good and lower the BBL's reputation if they have a half-cocked roster.
Worrying that this latest guy has bounced around so many teams and that his latest team in Austria only play at the same level as the team that ex-BBL man Filip Kramer featured in.
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Post by saintpat on Aug 4, 2020 15:49:24 GMT
While giving respect to Lions for entering Europe, its unclear whether this and any other of their signings (apart from the NBA guy if he gets back to form) are any great improvement on last season's roster. Last season Lions were often bested by BBL rivals so it is difficult to see them even getting close to Leicester's achievements in Europe. I'm not wishing for Lions to fail, its good for the BBL if they do well. However they could cause more harm than good and lower the BBL's reputation if they have a half-cocked roster. Worrying that this latest guy has bounced around so many teams and that his latest team in Austria only play at the same level as the team that ex-BBL man Filip Kramer featured in. I think it's difficult to judge until the whole roster is complete. Kervin is a big step up on the French centre we had last season. Dirk is a step up on anyone we had in that position last season. The NBA guy is a big step up on anything we had last season. We've still got 1 American spot to fill & I'm guessing/hoping that's a PG to help Justin unless we get Jordan Spencer to return. We're still light at some spots & my huge wish (which is massively optimistic & probably cloud cuckoo land)) is that we sign Dan Clark along with Josh Ward-Hibbert |
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Post by saintpat on Aug 4, 2020 16:31:57 GMT
I'm now slightly concerned, does this guy take a full permit spot?
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Post by edware on Aug 4, 2020 16:46:26 GMT
I'm now slightly concerned, does this guy take a full permit spot? He's Ukrainian-Israeli, neither of which are EU so I believe he does? I am sure someone more educated than me can confirm but on the face of it that appears to be the case. That fills the 4 import spots right? |
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Post by bullets92 on Aug 4, 2020 17:04:13 GMT
I'm now slightly concerned, does this guy take a full permit spot? Mark Woods says he awaiting a work permit, I think this means he’ll be classed as an import? Can’t say i know much about Israeli basketball but a quick google shows he was a very decent prospect in his youth |
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Post by edware on Aug 4, 2020 19:15:21 GMT
Averaged 23 and 8 in the Austrian league last year. Looks a solid signing and will no doubt be able to contribute in the BBL, but as a very casual Lions fan I'm a little underwhelmed by the signings so far- especially if Shoutvin does indeed take that last permit/import spot. Maybe Vince has something up his sleeve.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 19:28:53 GMT
I'm now slightly concerned, does this guy take a full permit spot? Mark Woods says he awaiting a work permit, I think this means he’ll be classed as an import? Can’t say i know much about Israeli basketball but a quick google shows he was a very decent prospect in his youth That would make him an import Israel is a decent standard |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 19:39:47 GMT
I think so far the London European adventure has recruited a far better squad than Leicester did
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Post by saintpat on Aug 4, 2020 20:13:10 GMT
I'm obviously being a bit stupid but BBL teams can have 4 work permit players, who is the 5th player allowed? I'm presuming it's an EU player but what happens in November?
Also the rules on the BBL site seem vague, it says 4 + 1 non British players are allowed to play but it doesn't seem to clarify if the team can sign more than that on the roster and only play the 4+1 in any game. Therefore Lions could sign 6 work permit players for Europe but only play 4 in any one game.
I'm hoping someone far more clever than me can explain or link to the full rules that explain it.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Aug 4, 2020 20:28:13 GMT
I'm obviously being a bit stupid but BBL teams can have 4 work permit players, who is the 5th player allowed? I'm presuming it's an EU player but what happens in November? Also the rules on the BBL site seem vague, it says 4 + 1 non British players are allowed to play but it doesn't seem to clarify if the team can sign more than that on the roster and only play the 4+1 in any game. Therefore Lions could sign 6 work permit players for Europe but only play 4 in any one game. I'm hoping someone far more clever than me can explain or link to the full rules that explain it. Speaking to a BBL coach apparently its 4 imports from outside the US and 1 EU. I could be wrong but thats what Im told. In the BCL - god knows. |
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Post by dandayr on Aug 4, 2020 21:46:26 GMT
I'm obviously being a bit stupid but BBL teams can have 4 work permit players, who is the 5th player allowed? I'm presuming it's an EU player but what happens in November? Also the rules on the BBL site seem vague, it says 4 + 1 non British players are allowed to play but it doesn't seem to clarify if the team can sign more than that on the roster and only play the 4+1 in any game. Therefore Lions could sign 6 work permit players for Europe but only play 4 in any one game. I'm hoping someone far more clever than me can explain or link to the full rules that explain it. Speaking to a BBL coach apparently its 4 imports from outside the US and 1 EU. I could be wrong but thats what Im told. In the BCL - god knows. This is what the BBL has on their FAQ page as the changes from summer 2020: The new eligibility allows teams to play a maximum of five over-18 non-British players per game, of which a maximum of four can be work permitted. All remaining spots on the team have to be filled by British passport holders. So a 10man game day BBL squad would be a maximum of 5 non-British passport holders of which a max of 4 who need a work permit plus the other 5 have to hold a british passport |
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Post by saintpat on Aug 4, 2020 22:20:11 GMT
Speaking to a BBL coach apparently its 4 imports from outside the US and 1 EU. I could be wrong but thats what Im told. In the BCL - god knows. This is what the BBL has on their FAQ page as the changes from summer 2020: The new eligibility allows teams to play a maximum of five over-18 non-British players per game, of which a maximum of four can be work permitted. All remaining spots on the team have to be filled by British passport holders. So a 10man game day BBL squad would be a maximum of 5 non-British passport holders of which a max of 4 who need a work permit plus the other 5 have to hold a british passport But it's vague, it says a maximum of 5 non British players per game, does that mean you could have 7 on a squad of 14 & just play 5 in any one game without having to register/deregister a player each time? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 5, 2020 7:36:05 GMT
I'm obviously being a bit stupid but BBL teams can have 4 work permit players, who is the 5th player allowed? I'm presuming it's an EU player but what happens in November? Also the rules on the BBL site seem vague, it says 4 + 1 non British players are allowed to play but it doesn't seem to clarify if the team can sign more than that on the roster and only play the 4+1 in any game. Therefore Lions could sign 6 work permit players for Europe but only play 4 in any one game. I'm hoping someone far more clever than me can explain or link to the full rules that explain it. When Riders were in Europe we had a time when we had too many imports for BBL but could play them all in Europe Hence Trayvonn Wright had to sit out of BBL games but could play in the European ones |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 5, 2020 7:37:54 GMT
This is what the BBL has on their FAQ page as the changes from summer 2020: The new eligibility allows teams to play a maximum of five over-18 non-British players per game, of which a maximum of four can be work permitted. All remaining spots on the team have to be filled by British passport holders. So a 10man game day BBL squad would be a maximum of 5 non-British passport holders of which a max of 4 who need a work permit plus the other 5 have to hold a british passport But it's vague, it says a maximum of 5 non British players per game, does that mean you could have 7 on a squad of 14 & just play 5 in any one game without having to register/deregister a player each time? In the past at least you certainly did have to de-register players in BBL otherwise you could sign extra imports as injury cover and there's a limit on how many you can de-register per season But as above it may have changed this season |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 14:17:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 16:55:52 GMT
Shoutvin is out then
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Post by Solly on Aug 5, 2020 19:16:33 GMT
That's done Lions a favour |
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Post by faz on Aug 5, 2020 19:40:32 GMT
Are their any regulations for Europe regarding imports?
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