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Post by bballbobby on Sept 30, 2020 19:48:31 GMT
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Post by 2NFR on Oct 1, 2020 15:20:36 GMT
If no cup games are played between now and the start of the championship(13th Nov), then perhaps they should just scrap the cup for this year and continue on with the league ... Just a thought !!  |
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Post by LTFan on Oct 1, 2020 15:35:03 GMT
If no cup games are played between now and the start of the championship(13th Nov), then perhaps they should just scrap the cup for this year and continue on with the league ... Just a thought !! I'm sure you're not alone with that thought. And I suspect it's at least partly why the Cup was scheduled ahead of the Championship season again this year, its gives the BBL a bit of a contingency. Although why the Championship season is due to start mid-November and not early-December like last year I don't know... that would have given them even more breathing room if needed - and it looks like it is! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 1, 2020 15:37:15 GMT
If no cup games are played between now and the start of the championship(13th Nov), then perhaps they should just scrap the cup for this year and continue on with the league ... Just a thought !! I'm sure you're not alone with that thought. And I suspect it's at least partly why the Cup was scheduled ahead of the Championship season again this year, its gives the BBL a bit of a contingency. Although why the Championship season is due to start mid-November and not early-December like last year I don't know... that would have given them even more breathing room if needed - and it looks like it is! They needed an early start as they need the income I assume They maybe hoped they could survive the Cup games with limited fans and that would lead to more capacity for the league games |
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Post by bballbobby on Oct 1, 2020 19:03:58 GMT
Just don’t see the BBL being viable without paying fans at games, really hope for once it goes our way grant (not loans) wise 🤞
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Post by davef on Oct 1, 2020 19:36:41 GMT
Started early December last year only because of the FIBA window which was the last week in November. It was thought there was little point starting 1 weeks worth of games and then having a fortnight off
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Post by MansfieldMike on Oct 1, 2020 20:11:53 GMT
Weren't there less scheduled league games last year, only playing each opponent twice, rather than the three games between league teams planned for this season?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 2, 2020 7:56:57 GMT
Weren't there less scheduled league games last year, only playing each opponent twice, rather than the three games between league teams planned for this season? Good point. But just getting a two league games season between each team from this stage would be an achievement I still say the way forward for a BBL League (or any indoor sport requiring fans) whilst under Covid can only be an attempt at a spring/summer season when Covid can be handled better and far less risk of random localised lockdowns It's a big change and it leads to recruitment of players issues etc but I predict the whole of Europe will end up having to adapt Even if we get a vaccine it ain't solving things for us in the next 12 months Basketball will need to adapt like many other sports and industries |
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Post by ecrider on Oct 2, 2020 9:55:11 GMT
Afraid I can't see them being given the OK to start with fans in November especially with the ways things are heading currently. Doubt the clubs will be able to continue without fans, unless someone funds the whole season for each club - high on the government's list?
Much as it pains me, may be better to write this season off, and see where we are come March / April
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Post by sharkball on Oct 2, 2020 12:06:38 GMT
Yes be very surprised if the season starts and expect it will be confirmed in a few weeks it has been cancelled. The Ice Hockey league has gone hasn't it in this country so cant see how the BBL will happen.
I think many imports may be looking to find a club where leagues are running - I know contracts will represent Covid curtailing things with cover for the clubs and the players but many will either have to find work elsewhere this year or head home to the States.
Shame but think ecrider is right and it may be we have to look at the season maybe running different months - say March to August and then the next season Dec onwards possibly?
Think some clubs will disappear though especially if we have to wait another year as 18 months without play would be too much to get through
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 2, 2020 12:14:00 GMT
Yes be very surprised if the season starts and expect it will be confirmed in a few weeks it has been cancelled. The Ice Hockey league has gone hasn't it in this country so cant see how the BBL will happen. I think many imports may be looking to find a club where leagues are running - I know contracts will represent Covid curtailing things with cover for the clubs and the players but many will either have to find work elsewhere this year or head home to the States. Shame but think ecrider is right and it may be we have to look at the season maybe running different months - say March to August and then the next season Dec onwards possibly? Think some clubs will disappear though especially if we have to wait another year as 18 months without play would be too much to get through Hopefully the club's will be supported so they can survive through The fanbases will remain Maybe some of the venues will have to change depending on what else can survive through this and how long it lasts |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 12:46:07 GMT
Yes be very surprised if the season starts and expect it will be confirmed in a few weeks it has been cancelled. The Ice Hockey league has gone hasn't it in this country so cant see how the BBL will happen. I think many imports may be looking to find a club where leagues are running - I know contracts will represent Covid curtailing things with cover for the clubs and the players but many will either have to find work elsewhere this year or head home to the States. Shame but think ecrider is right and it may be we have to look at the season maybe running different months - say March to August and then the next season Dec onwards possibly? Think some clubs will disappear though especially if we have to wait another year as 18 months without play would be too much to get through Hopefully the club's will be supported so they can survive through The fanbases will remain Maybe some of the venues will have to change depending on what else can survive through this and how long it lasts There a lot of articles about government bailouts of British basketball they go back YEARS! I thought BBL was getting investment from 777? If the government steps in they have to do it for ALL sports, so that means hockey, netball etc. can’t see them doing anything material aside from some loans and grants. BBL needs to find some private investors as without it, can’t see how they will start up again with any type of product on the court. But, hey, I’ve been saying this for months and fell on deaf ears. But wait......I do have a solution that could ensure survival!!! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 2, 2020 13:15:13 GMT
Hopefully the club's will be supported so they can survive through The fanbases will remain Maybe some of the venues will have to change depending on what else can survive through this and how long it lasts There a lot of articles about government bailouts of British basketball they go back YEARS! I thought BBL was getting investment from 777? If the government steps in they have to do it for ALL sports, so that means hockey, netball etc. can’t see them doing anything material aside from some loans and grants. BBL needs to find some private investors as without it, can’t see how they will start up again with any type of product on the court. But, hey, I’ve been saying this for months and fell on deaf ears. But wait......I do have a solution that could ensure survival!!! "Some loans and grants" could be enough for the clubs to mothball indefinitely until indoor supporters are allowed back in decent numbers to consider a restart It will be upto the club owners to decide whether they want to risk taking on those loans and whether there is a viable future to pay them back of course I'm sure they will take every grant offered Rugby League was loaned 16m a while ago That money was designed to cover them for 3 months without income (which was how long they anticipated not being able to play without crowds for) Rugby League claiming they are now in the shxt again already!! |
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Post by warewolf on Oct 2, 2020 14:28:45 GMT
The whole thing is a mess, National league football is to receive emergency funding but i would argue that the premier league has role to play there. The BBL is the elite level and no fans equals no revenue, even if they do open up it will be so tightly conbasketball kited that it will look more like a revenue dribble than a revenue stream. UK sports funding is a bit of a joke for team sports in general and Basketball in particular and this should be a wake up call for everyone concerned. Few sports outside football and rugby have anywhere near the same level of reach into communities and participation opportunities than Basketball and yet the support and funding is virtually non existent. The starting gun on this debate will be fired when an elite level league collapses due to a lack of government financial support. Lets hope it isn't the BBL that pulls the trigger.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 2, 2020 14:44:49 GMT
The whole thing is a mess, National league football is to receive emergency funding but i would argue that the premier league has role to play there. The BBL is the elite level and no fans equals no revenue, even if they do open up it will be so tightly conbasketball kited that it will look more like a revenue dribble than a revenue stream. UK sports funding is a bit of a joke for team sports in general and Basketball in particular and this should be a wake up call for everyone concerned. Few sports outside football and rugby have anywhere near the same level of reach into communities and participation opportunities than Basketball and yet the support and funding is virtually non existent. The starting gun on this debate will be fired when an elite level league collapses due to a lack of government financial support. Lets hope it isn't the BBL that pulls the trigger. Being brutally honest if BBL collapsed would it even cause a ripple in the bigger picture of sport in Uk? At some stage we would have elite competitive basketball in the future under a new league and new name |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 15:09:41 GMT
It's a sensible decision
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Post by youngrocks on Oct 2, 2020 15:33:11 GMT
Interesting point. How many years- if the bbl folded- would it take to have a ten team british pro league.
Maybe covid was planted by ron scott to kill bbl and get his summer league with fans to launch 2021...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 16:58:24 GMT
The whole thing is a mess, National league football is to receive emergency funding but i would argue that the premier league has role to play there. . I keep hearing that, but do Tesco support local corner stores? The premier league isn't a sport. It's a multimillion business . Basketball's problem is that we were promised crowds starting tonight before a massive u tune screwed us. The monthly amount the conference has been offered is marginalky more that elite basketball needs for rhe season. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 2, 2020 17:10:10 GMT
If the Govt are prepared to cover the costs for League 5 Football to be played behind closed doors for the next 3 months and potentially longer (if crowds still can't return safely) then I can't see how the same request can reasonably be turned down for BBL Basketball ?
The fact it's a grant for football and not a loan makes it a big potential winner for basketball clubs and their owners as well
Rugby League will be asking why they got a loan when others are now getting grants? Or actually are probably also now in the middle of asking for grants themselves
And ice hockey and netball will be wondering why they cancelled their seasons so quickly?
Game on
Maybe?
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Post by allstring on Oct 2, 2020 17:23:13 GMT
The whole thing is a mess, National league football is to receive emergency funding but i would argue that the premier league has role to play there. . I keep hearing that, but do Tesco support local corner stores? The premier league isn't a sport. It's a multimillion business . Basketball's problem is that we were promised crowds starting tonight before a massive u tune screwed us. The monthly amount the conference has been offered is marginalky more that elite basketball needs for rhe season. How much is the National League being offered as the numbers I thought I heard were quite high and shouldn't be near the level Elite Basketball needs? I wouldn't think all income streams are blocked and we can't expect a grant to entirely cover the missing crowds. |
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Post by allstring on Oct 2, 2020 17:24:25 GMT
I keep hearing that, but do Tesco support local corner stores? The premier league isn't a sport. It's a multimillion business . Basketball's problem is that we were promised crowds starting tonight before a massive u tune screwed us. The monthly amount the conference has been offered is marginalky more that elite basketball needs for rhe season. How much is the National League being offered as the numbers I thought I heard were quite high and shouldn't be near the level Elite Basketball needs? I wouldn't think all income streams are blocked and we can't expect a grant to entirely cover the missing crowds. Re-read your wording. Monthly Amount to the National League. That makes more sense to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 17:54:44 GMT
For perspective, our sport needs about the same as a single L1 football club.
Reasonable request?
You might wanna hassle your MP
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 11:32:28 GMT
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