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Post by dandayr on Oct 22, 2020 13:38:53 GMT
ah ok - the post was referring to WBBL fixtures confirmed and BBL hopes that might be a sign for BBL to update - so was just a natural jump with Rocks in your name that it was that part of the post you meant  never clicked on the link to wbbl fixtures list - but now see what you mean about the Pride. So has anything been officially said why they are not participating in it and are starting later than the other teams? Based on the tweets I have seen, they have already announced a full squad and also sounded like those not already based in scotland are now here. |
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Post by youngrocks on Oct 23, 2020 15:39:11 GMT
Suspect maybe cost of travel/availability of facilities? However the rocks have access to Emirates? Pride do play at orian/pleasance both university owned facilities so maybe struggle with those restrictions?
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Post by allstring on Oct 26, 2020 17:16:23 GMT
Diring his early postings he claimed to have had an interview with Scott's organisation. When creating an internet persona, it's important to get the details correct Exactly and what I was getting at with "You know exactly who Ron Scott is and suggesting you don't just sums up the make believe world you live in.
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He even referred to Scott when he went to that interview. And suddenly he's stopped posting for a fortnight. The problem is that he couldn't remember what he said when, which is why he deleted his login and restarted; but it didn't remove the history quite as he'd hoped. No idea who he his, but the way he has responded to BBA topics (subtle differences to his normal persona) would add credence to he does come from that organisation. It fascinates me how easily people who take on a made-up persona begin to contradict themselves. |
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Post by allstring on Oct 27, 2020 18:51:06 GMT
Surrey have announced their BBL Cup fixtures.
Sat 31 Oct - Bristol - Home 7pm
Sat 7 Nov - Bristol - Away 7pm
Fri 13 Nov - Worcester - Away 7:30pm
Sat 21 Nov - Plymouth - Home 6pm
Sun 22 Nov - Plymouth - Away 3pm
Sat 28 Nov - Worcester - Home 7pm
The first match will be live streamed free of charge. Good idea to entice viewers before charging.
Whether the matches going ahead is definitive I've no idea. But that's the aim.
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Post by allstring on Oct 27, 2020 18:52:45 GMT
Also just seen that the full fixtures are on BBL site.
Only bottom team eliminated, so three to the last eight from Scorchers group.
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Post by casualhook on Oct 27, 2020 18:57:09 GMT
Well that is a pleasant surprise
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Post by allstring on Oct 27, 2020 19:00:16 GMT
Not sure what to make of Glasgow and Worcester matches being provisional apart from wondering if they are dependent on the DCMS funding being paid or maybe local restrictions. A part from a the opening Newcastle/Sheffield day to be set, all other matches are currently confirmed.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 27, 2020 19:58:46 GMT
Group 3, ouch!!! That's one helluva group!
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Post by allstring on Oct 27, 2020 20:36:11 GMT
Group 3, ouch!!! That's one helluva group! In Groups 1 and 2 you could put a case for any of the seven teams finishing last and being eliminated. And that's not far off the case for Group 3, but for differing reasons as you wouldn't expect any of them to finish last in Groups 1 or 2. I think the Lions are far too strong, but they aren't 100% guaranteed to get through that group if they were to make a bad start. It will be a good early indicator if they are so strong that they will steamroll all opponents or whether they are beatable. I think they will qualify comfortably but not unbeaten. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 20:55:35 GMT
I'm confident we will finish top of group 1. Nobody in there seems to have a better squad
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Post by dandayr on Oct 28, 2020 8:50:08 GMT
Not sure what to make of Glasgow and Worcester matches being provisional apart from wondering if they are dependent on the DCMS funding being paid or maybe local restrictions. A part from a the opening Newcastle/Sheffield day to be set, all other matches are currently confirmed. Rocks tweeted their fixtures this morning - and if you follow the link the webpage article they posted says their fixtures provsional and dependent on the promised funding being received. The new 5 levels and local restrictions for Scotland starting 2nd Nov have in the summary document section for sport at each of the 5 levels with restrictions described there is an exception line that says professional sport can continue ok www.glasgowrocks.co.uk/fixtures-bbl-cup-fixtures-confirmed |
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Post by dandayr on Oct 31, 2020 11:31:30 GMT
well with this woolly statement posted by the UK Gov on the petition yesterday - you can sort of understand the reason Rocks have said provisional. Sounds like season has started without knowing if 100% support of lost income or 50% of lost income or is it (I hate to type this number) like furlough initially was and 80% support? petition.parliament.uk/petitions/324801?reveal_response=yes |
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Post by casualhook on Nov 18, 2020 16:03:34 GMT
Mark Woods on Twitter saying Basketball England will get a grant rather than a loan, not sure how that ties in with BBL
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Post by LTFan on Nov 18, 2020 16:06:12 GMT
Mark Woods on Twitter saying Basketball England will get a grant rather than a loan, not sure how that ties in with BBL I think it was a single request to the government via Basketball England (I bet the BBL are happy about that affiliation now!)... so I assume the BBL is included in that. |
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Post by number23 on Nov 18, 2020 16:34:34 GMT
Mark Woods on Twitter saying Basketball England will get a grant rather than a loan, not sure how that ties in with BBL I read the Twitter post slightly differently - I thought it meant that basketball was in the ‘semi-pro’ category rather than ‘professional’? I guess we’ll see in the House of Commons tomorrow... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 16:48:57 GMT
BE have applied pn behalf of both pro and semi pro clubs. I guess the devil will be in the detail
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Nov 19, 2020 12:25:11 GMT
Basketball awarded 4million.
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Post by LTFan on Nov 19, 2020 12:40:13 GMT
For those interested:
Rugby Union: £135 million
Rugby Football Union: £44 million
Premiership Rugby clubs: £59 million
Champiomship Rugby clubs: £9 million
Rugby clubs below Championship: £23 million
Horseracing: £40 million
Racecourses: £40 million
Football: £28 million
National League (steps 1-2): £11 million. This follows the announcement that National League clubs at steps 1-2 would receive £10 million National Lottery funding to keep them afloat up to the end of 2020, following a unique deal brokered by the Government.
National League (steps 3-6): £14 million
Women’s Football (Women’s Super League and FA Women’s Championship): £3 million
Rugby League: £12 million
Rugby Football League: £12 million. This will be delivered as a top-up to the existing Government loan scheme announced in May 2020, to reflect updated circumstances.
Motorsport: £6 million
Owners/operators of major circuits (Silverstone, Goodwood, The British Automobile Racing Club, MotorSport Vision): £6 million
Tennis: £5 million
Lawn Tennis Association: £5 million
Netball: £4 million
England Netball: £2 million
Super League Netball: £2 million
Basketball: £4 million
Basketball England: £1 million
British Basketball League clubs (including Women’s British Basketball League clubs): £3 million
Ice Hockey: £4 million
Elite League: £4 million
Badminton: £2 million
Badminton England: £2 million
Greyhound racing: £1 million
Greyhound Board of Great Britain: £1 million
Please note these are all indicative figures based upon provisional returns provided to DCMS to produce an initial assessment of need. Each sport will need to go through an application process to access the support they are eligible for under the final design of the scheme. The final amount received by each sport/organisation may differ from the amounts set out above when final decisions are made by an independent decision-making board, and supported by Sport England.
Also note: The funding, which will be largely composed of loans, is the most generous of any Government for its domestic sport sector in the world, and will focus on sports severely impacted over the winter.
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Post by ko25 on Nov 19, 2020 14:29:02 GMT
Is this the same as whats's already expected but not yet delivered or something extra?
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 19, 2020 14:38:39 GMT
This is what had been 'promised' that allowed the seasons to start.
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Post by ko25 on Nov 19, 2020 14:49:41 GMT
This is what had been 'promised' that allowed the seasons to start. So it was never going to arrive until at least now then? |
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 19, 2020 14:52:54 GMT
This is really interesting to get an indication of the relative sizes of different elite sports leagues.
EIHL £4m
BBL+WBBL £3m
Netball Superleague £2
Premiership Rugby £59m
So, the cost / revenue of an average Premiership club is a lot more than an entire EIHL, BBL or Netball Superleague.
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Post by LTFan on Nov 19, 2020 15:25:23 GMT
This is really interesting to get an indication of the relative sizes of different elite sports leagues. EIHL £4m BBL+WBBL £3m Netball Superleague £2 Premiership Rugby £59m So, the cost / revenue of an average Premiership club is a lot more than an entire EIHL, BBL or Netball Superleague. Lot's of interesting things here... like how it appears the EIHL - which cancelled it's season, needs more money than the BBL - which didn't cancel it's season, to survive through this winter. |
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Post by LTFan on Nov 19, 2020 15:26:28 GMT
This is what had been 'promised' that allowed the seasons to start. So it was never going to arrive until at least now then? It still hasn't arrived. These are indicative figures based upon provisional returns provided (evidencing lost revenue)... the actual money won't start to be seen for at least another few weeks so I've heard. |
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 19, 2020 15:42:23 GMT
This is really interesting to get an indication of the relative sizes of different elite sports leagues. EIHL £4m BBL+WBBL £3m Netball Superleague £2 Premiership Rugby £59m So, the cost / revenue of an average Premiership club is a lot more than an entire EIHL, BBL or Netball Superleague. Lot's of interesting things here... like how it appears the EIHL - which cancelled it's season, needs more money than the BBL - which didn't cancel it's season, to survive through this winter. There might be a difference though. I think EIHL is classed as a professional league, whereas BBL is classed as semi professional. Which would mean EIHL have to pay back their £4m at some point, whereas the basketball's £4m is a grant, so doesn't need repaying. I absolutely could be wrong but that is my understanding. |
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