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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 13, 2020 11:13:01 GMT
Very good news. I wonder if this will generate more corporate sponsorship of the league and trophy like it was in the 90s. And of course increased exposure for clubs. BBL has to keep its product at a good level and hence the cover all clubs or best games debate begins. Personally I would have a BBL premier and BBL 2 with the best EBL clubs. Yes, I would also advocate that. Pro A and Pro B like the French have. And allow Pro A to agree a bigger salary cap. Six to eight teams in Pro A. And a regular mid week slot for basketball, like Thursday nights, so it can become part of the British sporting calendar and isn't trying to compete with the major sports.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Nov 13, 2020 11:28:37 GMT
Such a pleasure to receive this news. Basketball needs TV exposure to progress and good news has been very thin on the ground for months. Bring it on.
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Post by faz on Nov 13, 2020 11:40:10 GMT
Drew Lasker presenting? Has he quit Eagles? Pity Dan Routledge not involved
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Post by allstring on Nov 13, 2020 11:51:51 GMT
Drew Lasker presenting? Has he quit Eagles? Pity Dan Routledge not involved I thought Dan was part of it and that with a number of ex/current players involved that Drew wouldn't be involved if it clashed with an Eagles match.
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 13, 2020 12:12:04 GMT
It says Lasker & Achara are part of the presenting team. I am sure they wont be doing the actual commentary
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Post by fauxnicks on Nov 13, 2020 12:26:58 GMT
I made reference to this in the bailout thread a few days ago - I’ve heard Sky will show a weekly headline game along with a roundup of all the games weekly. I did tell you! Great news hopefully leads t bigger and better investment.
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 13, 2020 12:27:17 GMT
Good for him starting to build a career after playing. He is the best BBL presenter / pundit that I've seen.
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Post by connors on Nov 13, 2020 14:09:18 GMT
It's great news isn't it. I am sure that SKY, even at minimal effort, will do a better job than any of the terrestrial companies....even though for me that is still the way to the greatest exposure. Honestly though brilliant news for BBL and basketball fans in the UK.
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Post by lexumcomp on Nov 13, 2020 15:43:34 GMT
When was the last time the league had regular live games on sky?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 17:44:37 GMT
More than 20 years. It's excellent news. Really looking forward to it
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Post by casualhook on Nov 13, 2020 22:10:33 GMT
“MVP understands that only a limited number of venues will be used for game broadcasts – Copper Box, Morningside Arena, Eagles Arena, Pavilions and Emirates Arena.“
Wonder if that’s purely an aesthetics decision or what
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 13, 2020 22:57:20 GMT
“MVP understands that only a limited number of venues will be used for game broadcasts – Copper Box, Morningside Arena, Eagles Arena, Pavilions and Emirates Arena.“ Wonder if that’s purely an aesthetics decision or what I wonder, will they use the real Emirates Arena or the sports hall? If there's no crowd why use that big arena? I suspect it's not just on aesthetics. London, Leicester, Eagles: the three biggest clubs. Plymouth, a team with a rich investor. Glasgow, a team in a big city with a big modern arena. Add one more team to that. Manchester Giants if they have a good season and commitments from investors. If not, Worcester Wolves. Split those teams off in a BBL Pro A division. Increase the salary cap and bring them up to a level that can compete in the Champions League or higher.
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Post by dandayr on Nov 14, 2020 12:43:52 GMT
suspect Emirates Arena is on the list for the Trophy final - am sure in the past was mentioned it was a multi-year arrangement with glasgow life/glasgow sport who get mentioned on the posters and advertising as they are an in-kind sponsor of the final.
time will tell if a Rocks game is also broadcast - where are the production company based, could they do a Glasgow game setting up and leaving the same day, or got extra costs of overnight stops due to distance from their base?
The complex though would be perfect for a double header or more due to plenty of changing rooms and warm up space. So could easily keep 4 or more teams spaced apart. Not so perfect for the two teams who would have to travel to Glasgow for a game not involving Rocks.
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Post by blueskies99 on Nov 14, 2020 12:58:39 GMT
“MVP understands that only a limited number of venues will be used for game broadcasts – Copper Box, Morningside Arena, Eagles Arena, Pavilions and Emirates Arena.“ Wonder if that’s purely an aesthetics decision or what Could it be that these venues have got their act together as regards to managing the threat of covid-19?
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Post by milehigh on Nov 15, 2020 10:57:35 GMT
There could be a number of criteria used in selecting the venues, apart from the quality of the sides.
Do the venues have suitable lighting and data infrastructure to allow professional broadcast quality?
Is there space to install cameras at suitable angles to produce a professional production?
Do the venues & clubs have the infrastructure in place to allow a professional quality broadcast.
Single, or even two camera, coverage is not acceptable for a mainstream broadcast channel.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Nov 15, 2020 11:54:49 GMT
There could be a number of criteria used in selecting the venues, apart from the quality of the sides. Do the venues have suitable lighting and data infrastructure to allow professional broadcast quality? Is there space to install cameras at suitable angles to produce a professional production? Do the venues & clubs have the infrastructure in place to allow a professional quality broadcast. Single, or even two camera, coverage is not acceptable for a mainstream broadcast channel. I think this is probably correct. The Worcester stream last night looked good but quite dark. I know the pavilions has had proper filming of shows/gigs before now. Could the likes of Manchester look to hire more suitable arena facilities just for televised games? I assume the price isn’t right for that route but I have zero knowledge of just how much rent costs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 14:03:11 GMT
A tree falls in the forest...........
This clearly not a rights buy but more of a pay to be seen situation. Buzz16 is connected via this Neville guy to Sky and not a major player in the production business. So someone pays for production or let me be generous, Buzz16 commits to produce and provides feed to Sky for free.
If the above is the case, why would they ever leave BBC which has a HUGE reach on all platforms.
Also, why do this now during a pandemic with no audience (not that they ever had real audiences outside of Newcastle and Lester I guess). The basketball product is poor standard and that against the background of no fans in the stands........let’s just say it won’t do anything to attract people to the games whenever they resume for fans. I’ve watched a few of these live streaming games and they are just horrible.
Whatever money was put towards getting on Sky would have been better spent on a better product and marketing in the run up to whenever games will be played in front of crowds. Also, wasn’t the BBL just seeking a government bailout or they’d go under? Maybe they got 777 or some other unsophisticated investor to pony up cash. Maybe government has not come up with money so they were forced into this stupid idea by investors.
Who are BBL targeting? If it’s basketball fans, going on Sky during the NBA season will just magnify the product defiencies.
This is just another window dressing survival tactic coming from the BBL. For die hard BBL fans however, this is great news. For true lovers of basketball, with any real basketball IQ, not so much.
Why on earth would they ever leave BBC? And why go on live TV with no audience in the stands, and crappy product full of second rate Americans during a pandemic? It not like the market was craving to see basketball. The NBA even struggles to get viewers so being shown on same network during same season is just stupid decision making and this beggars belief. Sky doesn’t care because they have filled airtime
BBL, get your product and marketing right and people will come to the games. Once that happens, TV will become an effective tool to grow the league. Not before.
But good luck to them I guess?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 14:08:13 GMT
Glass half full, as usual. I'd say it's a decent deal for a keagur you assured wouldn't happen. Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong on that one
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 14:40:30 GMT
Glass half full, as usual. I'd say it's a decent deal for a keagur you assured wouldn't happen. Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong on that one My favorite dude Hershey!! Ok, I’m right and I’m wrong. I specifically said there will be no fans until late 2021 hence no games. The fact that BBL has chosen to proceed waiting on a bailout from the government was unthinkable. So yes, you were right Hershey. I watched that Poland game with the FB ladies and said to my roommate, why isn’t everyone behind that effort. Those girls got some game. Question, is NBL the league to watch up and coming talent or is it just a worse version of BBL?
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Post by davef on Nov 15, 2020 14:43:02 GMT
Actually you were just wrong.
You said a ball wouldn't be bounced. You've also come up with some other, to be frank, rubbish over the past two months.
Surely its time you got another gig Ron? Even you must be getting bored now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 15:15:25 GMT
Actually you were just wrong. You said a ball wouldn't be bounced. You've also come up with some other, to be frank, rubbish over the past two months. Surely its time you got another gig Ron? Even you must be getting bored now. Ron? Sorry dude no Ron here. But I guess your name is Dave so I’ll start there. The fact that the BBL chose to proceed with a season when it was denied a bailout earlier in the summer was a bit much and to start the season without funding hoping still for yet another bailout, shows lack of business ethics and sophistication. To be asking for a bailout and at same time announcing a TV deal for games to be played without audiences is just plain silly. Desperation. Why not take the year off like hockey which is more successful commercial I think. Afraid that if BBL takes the year off it would never return DaveF.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 15:43:41 GMT
It's clearly a struggle to admits you were wrong. You repeatedly claimed the season wouldn't happen. It's happening. By the end of the weekend every BBL side will have played this season and all except Nottingham in D1 will have played at least three times. D1 clubs have put on a decent show in the Lynch Trophy in spite of BE rather than because of it and the BBL has the TV deal it wanted. You must be gutted. But I doubt even you believe the crap you spout because when you had the chance to put your money where you mouth is, you bottled it. While we agree about GB women, it has nothing to do with this debate and it's just you trying to deflect from the fact you're utterly negative about everything the BBL does. If you'd found out they'd rejected Sky in favour of the BBC, you'd have slated that. Whether you're Ron Scott, Ron Jeremey or Ronald McDonald doesn't really matter - you clearly have had an issue with the BBL from the first time you graced us with your presence. Anyway, back to Raiders v Wolves
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 16:23:11 GMT
It's clearly a struggle to admits you were wrong. You repeatedly claimed the season wouldn't happen. It's happening. By the end of the weekend every BBL side will have played this season and all except Nottingham in D1 will have played at least three times. D1 clubs have put on a decent show in the Lynch Trophy in spite of BE rather than because of it and the BBL has the TV deal it wanted. You must be gutted. But I doubt even you believe the crap you spout because when you had the chance to put your money where you mouth is, you bottled it. While we agree about GB women, it has nothing to do with this debate and it's just you trying to deflect from the fact you're utterly negative about everything the BBL does. If you'd found out they'd rejected Sky in favour of the BBC, you'd have slated that. Whether you're Ron Scott, Ron Jeremey or Ronald McDonald doesn't really matter - you clearly have had an issue with the BBL from the first time you graced us with your presence. Anyway, back to Raiders v Wolves To have a constructive debate Hersey, sometimes one has to be on the other side of the argument being made. So I apologize that I’ve not gotten drunk on the BBL kool aid like some on this forum. I came in with an open mind, went to a few games in London and have followed a great deal of the news. Also my roommate is from Cardiff and knows the sports scene here very well. So I get an earful from him all the time. He’s a bit strange with his Millwall crap and I even tease him about getting a better club to support! I agree with most the BBL ain’t perfect and it’s all you got over here. I get that type of loyalty. But to make it into something it’s clearly not is not gonna get people to come to games let alone watch on Sky, BBC or any other network. Competing in Europe seems to be a thing with people on here. Forget that, not happening as domestic talent that’s any good is playing elsewhere. And the Lions this years shows that stacking your team with American has beens only to lose to a second rank team of Lithuanian BOYS, is not successful strategy. Attracting money from credible American investors.......not happening either. If it’s not Fenway, Kroennke or that type of quality, everything is suspect. As far as Sky, why NOW is my first question. Wouldn’t you want to show your best product when arenas are full and people are going and talking about the league? And why have the bad messaging of potentially going out of business and needing a government bailout conflict with, hey we finally got a TV deal on Sky to highlight how good our basketball isn’t when nobody is going to the games!!! As a fan of the sport I gave it a shot and as you Brits say......not my cup of tea! Maybe following the women’s team is my way forward. Maybe it’s the NBL which I’ll try. But I ain’t drinking the Kool Aid the BBL is serving so forgive me if I’m not gullible.
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Post by fauxnicks on Nov 15, 2020 16:40:29 GMT
It's clearly a struggle to admits you were wrong. You repeatedly claimed the season wouldn't happen. It's happening. By the end of the weekend every BBL side will have played this season and all except Nottingham in D1 will have played at least three times. D1 clubs have put on a decent show in the Lynch Trophy in spite of BE rather than because of it and the BBL has the TV deal it wanted. You must be gutted. But I doubt even you believe the crap you spout because when you had the chance to put your money where you mouth is, you bottled it. While we agree about GB women, it has nothing to do with this debate and it's just you trying to deflect from the fact you're utterly negative about everything the BBL does. If you'd found out they'd rejected Sky in favour of the BBC, you'd have slated that. Whether you're Ron Scott, Ron Jeremey or Ronald McDonald doesn't really matter - you clearly have had an issue with the BBL from the first time you graced us with your presence. Anyway, back to Raiders v Wolves To have a constructive debate Hersey, sometimes one has to be on the other side of the argument being made. So I apologize that I’ve not gotten drunk on the BBL kool aid like some on this forum. I came in with an open mind, went to a few games in London and have followed a great deal of the news. Also my roommate is from Cardiff and knows the sports scene here very well. So I get an earful from him all the time. He’s a bit strange with his Millwall crap and I even tease him about getting a better club to support! I agree with most the BBL ain’t perfect and it’s all you got over here. I get that type of loyalty. But to make it into something it’s clearly not is not gonna get people to come to games let alone watch on Sky, BBC or any other network. Competing in Europe seems to be a thing with people on here. Forget that, not happening as domestic talent that’s any good is playing elsewhere. And the Lions this years shows that stacking your team with American has beens only to lose to a second rank team of Lithuanian BOYS, is not successful strategy. Attracting money from credible American investors.......not happening either. If it’s not Fenway, Kroennke or that type of quality, everything is suspect. As far as Sky, why NOW is my first question. Wouldn’t you want to show your best product when arenas are full and people are going and talking about the league? And why have the bad messaging of potentially going out of business and needing a government bailout conflict with, hey we finally got a TV deal on Sky to highlight how good our basketball isn’t when nobody is going to the games!!! As a fan of the sport I gave it a shot and as you Brits say......not my cup of tea! Maybe following the women’s team is my way forward. Maybe it’s the NBL which I’ll try. But I ain’t drinking the Kool Aid the BBL is serving so forgive me if I’m not gullible. Well now you have realised the BBL is not for you could you kindly do one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 16:55:11 GMT
To have a constructive debate Hersey, sometimes one has to be on the other side of the argument being made. So I apologize that I’ve not gotten drunk on the BBL kool aid like some on this forum. I came in with an open mind, went to a few games in London and have followed a great deal of the news. Also my roommate is from Cardiff and knows the sports scene here very well. So I get an earful from him all the time. He’s a bit strange with his Millwall crap and I even tease him about getting a better club to support! I agree with most the BBL ain’t perfect and it’s all you got over here. I get that type of loyalty. But to make it into something it’s clearly not is not gonna get people to come to games let alone watch on Sky, BBC or any other network. Competing in Europe seems to be a thing with people on here. Forget that, not happening as domestic talent that’s any good is playing elsewhere. And the Lions this years shows that stacking your team with American has beens only to lose to a second rank team of Lithuanian BOYS, is not successful strategy. Attracting money from credible American investors.......not happening either. If it’s not Fenway, Kroennke or that type of quality, everything is suspect. As far as Sky, why NOW is my first question. Wouldn’t you want to show your best product when arenas are full and people are going and talking about the league? And why have the bad messaging of potentially going out of business and needing a government bailout conflict with, hey we finally got a TV deal on Sky to highlight how good our basketball isn’t when nobody is going to the games!!! As a fan of the sport I gave it a shot and as you Brits say......not my cup of tea! Maybe following the women’s team is my way forward. Maybe it’s the NBL which I’ll try. But I ain’t drinking the Kool Aid the BBL is serving so forgive me if I’m not gullible. Well now you have realised the BBL is not for you could you kindly do one. Now now dude. Freedom of expression and opinion is a key pillar of democratic societies like the US and UK. Unless you can add to the debate, telling me to do one is a sign you lack the ability to properly engage in the topic discussed. So perhaps I’m not the one that should be doing one. Wow, I think I’m finally getting the hang of this sarcasm thing!
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