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Post by spaghettihoops on Dec 14, 2020 10:46:52 GMT
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Post by LTFan on Dec 14, 2020 11:49:01 GMT
It's been posted before, but (apart from getting the date of the opening games wrong) it's accurate compared to the advanced info I've seen. Also the move from Sky Sports Arena to Sky Sport Mix starts this weekend and will continue until mid-January.
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Post by LTFan on Dec 16, 2020 12:53:06 GMT
Some slightly disappointing news... the ratings for the week of the first 2 BBL games on Sky Sports are in - and it doesn't feature in the top 15 programmes of the week on Sky Sports Arena. That means the games had less than 6,000 viewers (live and on-demand).
It was also simulcast on Sky Sports Main Event, and whilst it would never feature in their top 15 programmes it does mean the viewership could have been split, therefore reducing the Sky Sports Arena viewership. To add some context, the most watch programme of the week was an EFL game with 54,800 viewers, and the top 15 programmes were largely rugby games. No ratings for last weeks game yet.
On a more positive last week's game has been watched by 7,500 people on YouTube, plus however many were watching on Sky Sports.
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Post by casualhook on Dec 16, 2020 13:50:08 GMT
Was never gonna do big numbers, the NBA does terrible numbers on Sky (even when on at reasonable times)and people are far more likely to watch that than BBL, it will be interesting to see the numbers when it’s not split on 2 channels but it’s definitely not going to turn into a ratings winner overnight
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Post by dandayr on Dec 16, 2020 14:24:38 GMT
Is that just Sky's numbers they pull from the boxes of people who have sky dishes?
Or do they also get the numbers from other places like VM cable users who have sky sports packages and even streaming service viewers like Now tv?
I watched on Now tv streaming service - and suspect I was on the main event channel, but do recall there was a choice of streams.
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Post by LTFan on Dec 16, 2020 14:32:10 GMT
Was never gonna do big numbers, the NBA does terrible numbers on Sky (even when on at reasonable times)and people are far more likely to watch that than BBL, it will be interesting to see the numbers when it’s not split on 2 channels but it’s definitely not going to turn into a ratings winner overnight I wasn't expecting it too... but was hoping for more than 6,000 people watching. I can't find ratings higher than 30,000 for the most recent NBA Play-Offs, so maybe I was expecting too much from the BBL. By contrast, I believe a BBL final (can't remember which) got over 200,000 viewers on the BBC Red Button a couple of years ago on a Sunday afternoon.
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Post by LTFan on Dec 16, 2020 14:36:58 GMT
Is that just Sky's numbers they pull from the boxes of people who have sky dishes? Or do they also get the numbers from other places like VM cable users who have sky sports packages and even streaming service viewers like Now tv? I watched on Now tv streaming service - and suspect I was on the main event channel, but do recall there was a choice of streams. Those are the official BARB ratings (which isn't exactly an accurate way of calculating ratings, but that's another discussion), so will include all platforms - Sky, Virgin, NowTV etc. They also include all devices - TV, PC/laptop, table and smartphones, and are consolidated from the 7 days after broadcast. But as I said, they are only the Sky Sports Arena ratings and don't include Sky Sports Main Event. Speaking of NowTV, if anyone is using that to watch Sky Sports - with either a monthly or day subscription, it's now available on the newest models of Amazon Fire TV devices.
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Post by dandayr on Dec 16, 2020 15:06:20 GMT
putting a positive spin - if it is around the 6K mark than that is double the number who could have watched it in the hall - don't know who the championship game was, but if was one of the bigger clubs like derby, then the 54.8k is similarly double what a larger championship club would hope to have in the ground
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Post by skeg on Dec 16, 2020 15:29:54 GMT
Some slightly disappointing news... the ratings for the week of the first 2 BBL games on Sky Sports are in - and it doesn't feature in the top 15 programmes of the week on Sky Sports Arena. That means the games had less than 6,000 viewers (live and on-demand). It was also simulcast on Sky Sports Main Event, and whilst it would never feature in their top 15 programmes it does mean the viewership could have been split, therefore reducing the Sky Sports Arena viewership. To add some context, the most watch programme of the week was an EFL game with 54,800 viewers, and the top 15 programmes were largely rugby games. No ratings for last weeks game yet. On a more positive last week's game has been watched by 7,500 people on YouTube, plus however many were watching on Sky Sports. Do these figures also take into account people who have recorded the game to watch at a later time?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 16:07:26 GMT
Hmmm. There is no way to positively spin this at all. Although the production quality is really good, it’s just looks like a basketball game to me. Nothing exceptional, just a basketball game. The fact that someone is funding the production with no chance of any real viewing figures is just more window dressing by the BBL. Once NBA starts next week, other than hard core BBL fans, I can’t see what the attraction will be to get people hooked on watching BBL.
But again, great production quality but if no one is watching.....who cares if it’s on Sky.
I guess it’s better than not playing at all which would kill the league. So they better spend that bailout money carefully because once pandemic is behind us, there will be no more handouts and the BBL will have to compete for customers just like every other entertainment business. The market will decide who will survive or not at that point.
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Post by LTFan on Dec 16, 2020 16:27:54 GMT
Some slightly disappointing news... the ratings for the week of the first 2 BBL games on Sky Sports are in - and it doesn't feature in the top 15 programmes of the week on Sky Sports Arena. That means the games had less than 6,000 viewers (live and on-demand). It was also simulcast on Sky Sports Main Event, and whilst it would never feature in their top 15 programmes it does mean the viewership could have been split, therefore reducing the Sky Sports Arena viewership. To add some context, the most watch programme of the week was an EFL game with 54,800 viewers, and the top 15 programmes were largely rugby games. No ratings for last weeks game yet. On a more positive last week's game has been watched by 7,500 people on YouTube, plus however many were watching on Sky Sports. Do these figures also take into account people who have recorded the game to watch at a later time? Yes they do, as long as it was watched within 7 days. There are also numbers that include those who watched it within 28 days - but obviously they aren't available yet. Hmmm. There is no way to positively spin this at all. Although the production quality is really good, it’s just looks like a basketball game to me. Nothing exceptional, just a basketball game. The fact that someone is funding the production with no chance of any real viewing figures is just more window dressing by the BBL. Once NBA starts next week, other than hard core BBL fans, I can’t see what the attraction will be to get people hooked on watching BBL. But again, great production quality but if no one is watching.....who cares if it’s on Sky. I guess it’s better than not playing at all which would kill the league. So they better spend that bailout money carefully because once pandemic is behind us, there will be no more handouts and the BBL will have to compete for customers just like every other entertainment business. The market will decide who will survive or not at that point. Dunkster, you're back! We (didn't) miss you! Why am I not surprised there's no way you can put a positive spin on this at all! So I'll do it for you... the game was also broadcast on Sky Sports Main Event - a channel more likely to pick up casual channel hoppers, so it's possible it actually had more viewers on that channel than it did on Sky Sports Arena... so we could be looking at a total of >12,000 viewers. Unfortunately the total number just isn't available. So it's probably sensible to wait for the ratings of last weeks game, which was just on Sky Sports Arena. And remember to add on the 7,500 YouTube viewers as well. And to remember we're only 2 weeks into a 2 year deal.
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Post by davef on Dec 16, 2020 16:28:19 GMT
Thanks Ron
Did Aston and Coventry ever play that first game
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Post by ko25 on Dec 16, 2020 16:35:52 GMT
Hmmm. There is no way to positively spin this at all. Although the production quality is really good, it’s just looks like a basketball game to me. Nothing exceptional, just a basketball game. The fact that someone is funding the production with no chance of any real viewing figures is just more window dressing by the BBL. Once NBA starts next week, other than hard core BBL fans, I can’t see what the attraction will be to get people hooked on watching BBL. But again, great production quality but if no one is watching.....who cares if it’s on Sky. I guess it’s better than not playing at all which would kill the league. So they better spend that bailout money carefully because once pandemic is behind us, there will be no more handouts and the BBL will have to compete for customers just like every other entertainment business. The market will decide who will survive or not at that point. Yeah it's a basketball game and they're competing, what exactly do you want? I'm sure everyone's excited for the NBA to see as few months of players going through the motions and resting until it get near playoff time when it's actually time to play. Will they really have to compete for customers or will the majority of basketball fans who used to go to games still most likely go to games. I really don't understand the need for all this negativity.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 16, 2020 16:37:36 GMT
Hmmm. There is no way to positively spin this at all. Although the production quality is really good, it’s just looks like a basketball game to me. Nothing exceptional, just a basketball game. The fact that someone is funding the production with no chance of any real viewing figures is just more window dressing by the BBL. Once NBA starts next week, other than hard core BBL fans, I can’t see what the attraction will be to get people hooked on watching BBL. But again, great production quality but if no one is watching.....who cares if it’s on Sky. I guess it’s better than not playing at all which would kill the league. So they better spend that bailout money carefully because once pandemic is behind us, there will be no more handouts and the BBL will have to compete for customers just like every other entertainment business. The market will decide who will survive or not at that point. You owe Hersey a grand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 18:22:10 GMT
So the official WB cancer is back. I wonder how many times he looked before logging back on at the first sniff of a bad news story. A truly tragic individual who's consistently written nonsense.
But is it a bad news story? It takes time to build an audience and the first game was in a Thursday tea-time graveyard slot.
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Post by borthwick on Dec 16, 2020 18:24:57 GMT
A certain irony that the two clubs who were the big signings, Coventry and Aston, have wandered off into the great abyss
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Post by stevetino on Dec 16, 2020 23:00:21 GMT
Any game on sky is a bonus compared with bbl player
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Dec 17, 2020 7:45:58 GMT
A certain irony that the two clubs who were the big signings, Coventry and Aston, have wandered off into the great abyss Any news on either of those? Coventry "Warwickshire Warriors" had ambitions of being one of the top clubs in England, but I haven't heard anything about them for months.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Dec 18, 2020 13:37:40 GMT
Some slightly disappointing news... the ratings for the week of the first 2 BBL games on Sky Sports are in - and it doesn't feature in the top 15 programmes of the week on Sky Sports Arena. That means the games had less than 6,000 viewers (live and on-demand). It was also simulcast on Sky Sports Main Event, and whilst it would never feature in their top 15 programmes it does mean the viewership could have been split, therefore reducing the Sky Sports Arena viewership. To add some context, the most watch programme of the week was an EFL game with 54,800 viewers, and the top 15 programmes were largely rugby games. No ratings for last weeks game yet. On a more positive last week's game has been watched by 7,500 people on YouTube, plus however many were watching on Sky Sports. Just looked at Sky programmes tonight. Tonight's game is only on skysportsmix dropped from main event in favour of darts which already has it's own separate Skysports channel. Good while it lasted?? Shame!!!
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Post by LTFan on Dec 18, 2020 13:58:58 GMT
Some slightly disappointing news... the ratings for the week of the first 2 BBL games on Sky Sports are in - and it doesn't feature in the top 15 programmes of the week on Sky Sports Arena. That means the games had less than 6,000 viewers (live and on-demand). It was also simulcast on Sky Sports Main Event, and whilst it would never feature in their top 15 programmes it does mean the viewership could have been split, therefore reducing the Sky Sports Arena viewership. To add some context, the most watch programme of the week was an EFL game with 54,800 viewers, and the top 15 programmes were largely rugby games. No ratings for last weeks game yet. On a more positive last week's game has been watched by 7,500 people on YouTube, plus however many were watching on Sky Sports. Just looked at Sky programmes tonight. Tonight's game is only on skysportsmix dropped from main event in favour of darts which already has it's own separate Skysports channel. Good while it lasted?? Shame!!! The simulcast with Sky Sports Main Event was only for the opening night of Sky's BBL coverage, after that it was always the plan for it's home to be Sky Sports Arena - as per the second week of coverage last week. The move to Sky Sports Mix for the next few weeks is due to Sky Sports Arena temporarily being renamed Sky Sports Darts... so the BBL has temporarily relocated to Sky Sports Mix. The same applies for the NBA when the season commences next week, so it's in good company. The positive of all this is that Sky Sports Mix doesn't require a Sky Sports subscription.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Dec 18, 2020 14:13:34 GMT
Is it on their YouTube this week?
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Dec 18, 2020 14:45:31 GMT
The World Darts Championship is the main event. British basketball has not yet managed to achieve main event status in British sporting culture. But being broadcasted live on any Sky Sports channel is a giant leap towards that, if that is the goal. As already pointed out, for exposure Sky Sports Mix is possibly the best channel to be on because VM customers get to watch it.
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Post by LTFan on Dec 18, 2020 15:11:25 GMT
Is it on their YouTube this week? No.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Dec 18, 2020 15:19:01 GMT
Is it on their YouTube this week? No. Shame. Thanks for the answer though
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Post by erd87 on Dec 18, 2020 15:48:42 GMT
More chance of getting extra eyeballs on it if it's on Mix as it comes without a subscription with my fairly basic Virginia Media package. Also means I can tune and watch without paying for it on Now Tv. Good stuff!
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