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Post by LTFan on Nov 26, 2020 15:30:17 GMT
Tier 2 - spectators allowed up to 1000 or 50% capacity, whichever is lower. Cheshire 700 Worcester 1000 Plymouth 750 Surrey 485 London 1000 Tier 3 - no spectators allowed Newcastle Manchester Sheffield Leicester Bristol Surely this will have an effect on the payments from BE to each respoective club? Bit harsh on say Newcastle or Riders if not We don't know the exact details of the government funding, but I'd believe so yes. My understanding is that any money provided by the government is based on evidence of lost ticket revenue. So if you're able to start selling tickets then your funding will be reduced as a result because your lost revenue has decreased, and I assume that'll filter down via BE. What I don't understand is how British basketball was granted £4M (based on lost revenue predictions) whilst continuing to put on a season, and British ice hockey was also granted £4M whilst suspending all activity. Yes, both are experiencing lost revenue, but basketball has the overheads of putting on a season. So are ice hockey actually pocketing a lot more cash for not providing the public with anything? |
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Post by wentey on Nov 26, 2020 18:28:19 GMT
Ive asked lions if they plan to sell tickets to their game on the 11th, i Ive also asked them about updating merchandise in their shop....do they not want peoples money!?
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Post by saintpat on Nov 26, 2020 18:38:00 GMT
Ive asked lions if they plan to sell tickets to their game on the 11th, i Ive also asked them about updating merchandise in their shop....do they not want peoples money!? I'd be amazed if you got a response, particularly if you asked on Twitter. They are totally incapable of interacting with fans! The disconnect between the club and the fans is staggering!! I've got 25 years invested in supporting Lions & if my level of interest is waning, what about fans of 2-3 years? They don't won't care at all! |
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Post by wentey on Nov 26, 2020 20:52:36 GMT
They replied on Twitter no plans of crowds at games before the new year but merchandises is on its way 👍
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Post by saintpat on Nov 26, 2020 20:58:34 GMT
😮😮😮 I'm truly amazed they answered!! Let's see if the merchandise actually happens. In September they said the kits would be available!
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Post by allstring on Nov 26, 2020 23:45:10 GMT
Surely this will have an effect on the payments from BE to each respoective club? Bit harsh on say Newcastle or Riders if not We don't know the exact details of the government funding, but I'd believe so yes. My understanding is that any money provided by the government is based on evidence of lost ticket revenue. So if you're able to start selling tickets then your funding will be reduced as a result because your lost revenue has decreased, and I assume that'll filter down via BE. What I don't understand is how British basketball was granted £4M (based on lost revenue predictions) whilst continuing to put on a season, and British ice hockey was also granted £4M whilst suspending all activity. Yes, both are experiencing lost revenue, but basketball has the overheads of putting on a season. So are ice hockey actually pocketing a lot more cash for not providing the public with anything? I wonder if it's that simple though. There are probably teams in Tier 3 with greater ticket sales than some teams will have in Tier 2. I'm thinking the difference between teams who sold season tickets and those who haven't. I'd assume their are higher costs to run a match with fans than without. Then their is the short notice threat of moving to Tier 3 or opposition having to pull out due to positive cases. Fans attending tends to mean additional cross selling of food and merchandise. Will that even be allowed (e.g. queuing). I also wonder if all clubs will take advantage of allowing fans in whilst the uncertainty remains and perhaps will wait until the New Year. They will need protocols in place, a robust ticketing system etc. May partly be driven by the DCMS criteria around the money. Although probably negligible, certain fans will be prevented from attending. A Lions supporter living in Kent wouldn't be allowed to attend a match at the Copper Box. The EIHL crowds will be larger than the BBL's so ticket sale loss greater. Perhaps by not playing, the amount awarded was reduced. Mind you only half the teams are English, does the DCMS grant cover the whole of the UK? Regardless these aren't easy times for any BBL team. |
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Post by dandayr on Nov 27, 2020 0:21:59 GMT
think some have been led to believe (perhaps by someone elses post?) that EIHL has given up on 2020/21 season - thats not the case. They suspended back in Sept when discussions with DCMS got underway. Based on levels of grants that might come through, and clubs thoughts. options were put out about a late Jan or Feb start and run through to June instead of usual April end but not with potential not all clubs would participate.
So the potential for up to £4m for hockey will be based on if they meet criteria for the money - like actually move from suspended to playing and not from suspended to cancelled season.
as shared in the other thread - the DCMS money is only for the clubs in England and not Scotland, Wales or NI so EIHL are having to work with all them to see what support the 50% of clubs can get from the devolved govs before making their next decision with their clubs.
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Post by youngrocks on Nov 27, 2020 7:05:15 GMT
Is the ice hockey league backed by a hockey governing body or is it a seperate entity?
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Post by ecrider on Nov 27, 2020 9:07:26 GMT
Unfortunately will be some time before Leicester comes out of Tier 3, given that we were the first to come under remedial measures and its still no better. When will people get it?
So will be more streams rather than live games for me!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2020 9:25:06 GMT
Is the ice hockey league backed by a hockey governing body or is it a seperate entity? It's run by the owners of the teams involved, plus the Chairman is the owner of one of the teams. The league is currently suspended but I suspect we'll need to wait till 2021/2022 before we see a resumption |
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Post by LTFan on Nov 27, 2020 12:51:25 GMT
Is the ice hockey league backed by a hockey governing body or is it a seperate entity? It's run by the owners of the teams involved, plus the Chairman is the owner of one of the teams. The league is currently suspended but I suspect we'll need to wait till 2021/2022 before we see a resumption You could say the same about the BBL. I think the question was more around whether there's a Basketball England or British Basketball Federation equivalent that the EIHL is associated to. Doing a quick Google, which can sometimes be a dangerous thing, but it appears there is an English Ice Hockey Association (EIHA) acting as a governing body of ice hockey in England and Wales, but that's associated to the National Ice Hockey League (NIHL), not the EIHL. The NIHL is essentially the second tier (so NBL1 equivalent?) and the EIHL is essentially the top tier (so BBL equivalent?). So I guess the answer is 'no', the EIHL isn't set up exactly the same way as the BBL. Maybe there is an advantage to the BBL paying all that money to BBF.  |
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Post by dandayr on Nov 27, 2020 13:36:05 GMT
Is the ice hockey league backed by a hockey governing body or is it a seperate entity? separate I believe Ice Hockey UK runs the GB part of the sport and I think the international transfer cards In Scotland, there is SIHA who run the SNL and below and there will be equiv in the other parts of UK to run the local structures |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Dec 1, 2020 17:51:07 GMT
So is anything actually happening here? Assuming the info in this thread is correct four of the league's five tier 2 clubs have home fixtures this week. The only one of those clubs that has said anything publicly about admitting fans is Cheshire and they don't appear to have a particularly sophisticated system in place for selling tickets. Just DM them on Twitter if you're interested apparently. I'm guessing there are probably some season ticket holders on here who will be attending their game on Sunday? Presumably still no fans at all at Scorchers v Riders, Raiders v Eagles or either of Wolves' home fixtures?
Given how long we've had to wait for this opportunity, the apathy that's being shown seems strange to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 18:33:37 GMT
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Post by faz on Dec 1, 2020 20:05:43 GMT
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Post by connors on Dec 2, 2020 13:39:38 GMT
......fans allowed back but we still await guidance as to whether kids can play again.
Fans are critical but so are future players.....
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Dec 2, 2020 14:20:55 GMT
So is anything actually happening here? Assuming the info in this thread is correct four of the league's five tier 2 clubs have home fixtures this week. The only one of those clubs that has said anything publicly about admitting fans is Cheshire and they don't appear to have a particularly sophisticated system in place for selling tickets. Just DM them on Twitter if you're interested apparently. I'm guessing there are probably some season ticket holders on here who will be attending their game on Sunday? Presumably still no fans at all at Scorchers v Riders, Raiders v Eagles or either of Wolves' home fixtures? Given how long we've had to wait for this opportunity, the apathy that's being shown seems strange to me. Nix did not sell season tickets this season, the Twitter post and other ways of letting the club know if they were interested allows the club to ascertain the level of interests even though it's allowed to have spectators there is no guarantee that people feel comfortable of attending. Season ticket holders from last year will have preference to buy individual game tickets in advance and dedicated safe distance seating so I imagine that there will be a lot of late night sorting out to get done for Sunday which is very quick for such an undertaking. |
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Post by LTFan on Dec 2, 2020 16:07:05 GMT
So is anything actually happening here? Assuming the info in this thread is correct four of the league's five tier 2 clubs have home fixtures this week. The only one of those clubs that has said anything publicly about admitting fans is Cheshire and they don't appear to have a particularly sophisticated system in place for selling tickets. Just DM them on Twitter if you're interested apparently. I'm guessing there are probably some season ticket holders on here who will be attending their game on Sunday? Presumably still no fans at all at Scorchers v Riders, Raiders v Eagles or either of Wolves' home fixtures? Given how long we've had to wait for this opportunity, the apathy that's being shown seems strange to me. Not particularly good news, but at least they've publicly said something, Lions have said it's unlikely they'll be in a position to welcome back fans to their home games until January due to the organisation required and measures that need to be put in place to do so safely. |
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Post by borthwick on Dec 2, 2020 16:19:37 GMT
Same with Hemel Storm
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