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Mar 21, 2016 14:11:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 14:11:36 GMT
I see that Loughborough recently beat Team Northumbria in the BUCS final.
What surprised me was the number of professional players suiting up for this game. I assume they are post grads and are therefore eligible because of it.
What are the eligibility rules? Anyone on a course at the uni is fair game? It's all very "ringer-ish" in appearance. Does it hold the non pros back?
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Mar 21, 2016 14:56:33 GMT
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 21, 2016 14:56:33 GMT
I see that Loughborough recently beat Team Northumbria in the BUCS final. What surprised me was the number of professional players suiting up for this game. I assume they are post grads and are therefore eligible because of it. What are the eligibility rules? Anyone on a course at the uni is fair game? It's all very "ringer-ish" in appearance. Does it hold the non pros back? At Loughborough it's been any of our players on a Uni course. Which include Conor, Ant Rowe, and Tyler Bernardini that I know of. Although I don't think Tyler plays that much tbh. My friend went to the final and he said Charles Smith was even with their team but he didn't play on the day. So maybe he is a mature student?
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Mar 21, 2016 15:47:03 GMT
Post by WHEELBARROWS4U on Mar 21, 2016 15:47:03 GMT
Interesting. Kind of riders vs Eagles.
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Mar 21, 2016 16:27:28 GMT
Post by MansfieldMike on Mar 21, 2016 16:27:28 GMT
Interesting. Kind of riders vs Eagles. Yea, and guess who won
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Mar 21, 2016 16:28:19 GMT
Post by WHEELBARROWS4U on Mar 21, 2016 16:28:19 GMT
Interesting. Kind of riders vs Eagles. Yea, and guess who won Newcastle
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Mar 21, 2016 17:06:06 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 17:06:06 GMT
I see that Loughborough recently beat Team Northumbria in the BUCS final. What surprised me was the number of professional players suiting up for this game. I assume they are post grads and are therefore eligible because of it. What are the eligibility rules? Anyone on a course at the uni is fair game? It's all very "ringer-ish" in appearance. Does it hold the non pros back? It's fair to say that there are plenty of very mature students who don't spend a lot of time in the classroom, When Towers were around Middlesex Uni paid them to provide players - that's not hearsay as Rick Taylor kept the deal going for a year and paid us to send our full-time players. Robbie Pears was the coach and he ran his standard 6-man rotation, so there wouldn't have been a lot of court time for genuine students.
However, I think Charles Smith is finishing off his degree, so is genuinely a student.
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Mar 21, 2016 21:00:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 21:00:00 GMT
The first thing to do when thinking about BUCS or university basketball is to forget about everything you know about NCAA and the American College system - there is very little in common. In BUCS the only eligibility criteria is that you are registered on a qualifying course at the institution for whom you are playing - you can be a full-time professional player in the BBL and you can carry on playing in the BUCS competition indefinitiely so long as you sign up for the course. Once the BBL team started linking with universities and offering scholarships as a way of subsidising salaries then initially Worcester and Durham came to the fore - now we are looking at loughbrough and northumbria. You will more than likely see elements of the BBL roster pop in and out during the season depending on the level of competition. Prior to that Plymouth Marjons were one of the first unis to offer basketball scholarships in the UK and they dominated the early 00ies. Throw in Oxford who usually have a selection of visiting American postgrads available that have kept them around the premier league for a number of years. The other phenomenom is players who have played for 6,7,8 years, sometimes for the same college and sometimes changing as they join new squads around the country. All this adds up to the fact that yes the opportunities in top UK university squads may be slightly more limited (compared to the US) if you're an 18 year old British kid moving on from EABL or national league. This sounds disappointing - but only until you realise that BUCS has historically played virtually no role in the development pathway of young British players (that is not to say that there aren't good players in university programmes or that particular institutions don't develop their own players).
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Mar 21, 2016 23:54:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 23:54:23 GMT
Firm believer that if you can use BBL players in your bucs team you should. At present bucs isn't very popular for mon students. If you can get more people interested in basketball by doing this the better it is. There are usually a lot more than just 1 team so plenty more people have this opportunity to play, along with some universities offering their own league and teams entering local leagues. If the city or town has a national league club players will also filter out this way.
The he only thing I would say is perhaps a 5 year bucs eligibility? To stop players jumping a round but don't know if there would be anyway of policing it.
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Mar 22, 2016 10:02:51 GMT
Post by ko25 on Mar 22, 2016 10:02:51 GMT
The he only thing I would say is perhaps a 5 year bucs eligibility? To stop players jumping a round but don't know if there would be anyway of policing it. Could it not be displayed on the licence card now many years you've played?
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Mar 22, 2016 10:13:14 GMT
Post by No. on Mar 22, 2016 10:13:14 GMT
Yea, and guess who won Newcastle Have another go.
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Mar 22, 2016 16:58:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 16:58:32 GMT
The he only thing I would say is perhaps a 5 year bucs eligibility? To stop players jumping a round but don't know if there would be anyway of policing it. Could it not be displayed on the licence card now many years you've played? Potentially yeah can't see why not
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