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Post by clyde on Jan 23, 2019 10:43:27 GMT
Here are the latest questions that we have tackled: What will Flyers win over Sharks do for them? (00:23) How big is the Giants game against Phoenix on Wednesday? (7:21) What is going on, why are the Rocks playing a game two day before their Cup Final? (12:10) What does the NBA game in London achieve? (19:39) CLICK HERE TO LISTEN(ALTERNATIVE LINK)
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jan 23, 2019 16:33:46 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA.
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Post by LTFan on Jan 24, 2019 13:37:17 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA. It was interesting to hear that the UK has more NBA League Pass subscribers than any other European country. Yet I believe the NBA is just as big, if not bigger, in some other European countries than in the UK. Anyone care to speculate why? I’d say it might have something to do with the fact other European countries have bigger domestic leagues/teams, so there’s more places for fans to get their basketball fix (i.e. less reliance on the NBA). What do you think?
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Post by clyde on Jan 24, 2019 14:16:07 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA. It was interesting to hear that the UK has more NBA League Pass subscribers than any other European country. Yet I believe the NBA is just as big, if not bigger, in some other European countries than in the UK. Anyone care to speculate why? I’d say it might have something to do with the fact other European countries have bigger domestic leagues/teams, so there’s more places for fans to get their basketball fix (i.e. less reliance on the NBA). What do you think? I think the reference was to Livebasketball.tv not NBA league pass, but I may be wrong.
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Post by LTFan on Jan 24, 2019 14:56:07 GMT
It was interesting to hear that the UK has more NBA League Pass subscribers than any other European country. Yet I believe the NBA is just as big, if not bigger, in some other European countries than in the UK. Anyone care to speculate why? I’d say it might have something to do with the fact other European countries have bigger domestic leagues/teams, so there’s more places for fans to get their basketball fix (i.e. less reliance on the NBA). What do you think? I think the reference was to Livebasketball.tv not NBA league pass, but I may be wrong. Just checked, it certainly said NBA League Pass has more UK subscribers than any other European country. I’m not saying that’s correct, but that’s what was said on the podcast.
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Post by Hector on Jan 24, 2019 16:58:05 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA. This. Same with the NFL. Basketball and American Football are very much minority sports in the country when it comes to professional structures and people spectating. But thousands upon thousands will turn up for the NBA and the NFL. Probably cos its all about the event rather than the actual sport.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jan 24, 2019 21:22:08 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA. This. Same with the NFL. Basketball and American Football are very much minority sports in the country when it comes to professional structures and people spectating. But thousands upon thousands will turn up for the NBA and the NFL. Probably cos its all about the event rather than the actual sport. I agree with this. Bbl game night breaks are geared towards raffles and sub standard dance routines (not all are awful). I’m biased but the game night experience is the best at the pavilions imo but fully understand it is a concert venue and can support the lights music etc. Do you think the die hard fans and rivalries are in the minority because it is marketed as a family friendly sport?
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Post by Hector on Jan 25, 2019 7:14:45 GMT
This. Same with the NFL. Basketball and American Football are very much minority sports in the country when it comes to professional structures and people spectating. But thousands upon thousands will turn up for the NBA and the NFL. Probably cos its all about the event rather than the actual sport. I agree with this. Bbl game night breaks are geared towards raffles and sub standard dance routines (not all are awful). I’m biased but the game night experience is the best at the pavilions imo but fully understand it is a concert venue and can support the lights music etc. Do you think the die hard fans and rivalries are in the minority because it is marketed as a family friendly sport? I think its more to do with the event culture that has sprung up in and around spectating in this country. I see it when me and my old man go to watch the PGA golf at Wentworth. There are loads of people there only really interested in a day out, being seen, trying to get on TV and drinking. They're not really interested in the sport. Its a bizarre phenomenon but across the summer you get the same at other sports. And it seems that the trend is continuing with the NFL and the NBA games.
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Post by cazzy8 on Jan 26, 2019 9:40:31 GMT
What seemed a missed opportunity to me was at the game there were no advertisements for either of the London teams or the playoff final at the o2.if you've got people there who haven't seen the bbl it could have been used to promote it.
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Post by LTFan on Jan 26, 2019 19:22:29 GMT
What seemed a missed opportunity to me was at the game there were no advertisements for either of the London teams or the playoff final at the o2.if you've got people there who haven't seen the bbl it could have been used to promote it. Totally agree, but presumably the NBA would have to allow the BBL to advertise at their event, and at (I’m guessing) a considerable cost too?
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Post by youngrocks on Jan 26, 2019 20:11:14 GMT
The nba seems to not let british basketball promote themselves at the games as it is a comflict of interest. They didnt doit pre 2012 at the game in manchester and wont now. End of the day its commercialism in sport sponsorsand money do the talking. They wont let lions or royals do it either. Probably a better idea to almost do some ambush marketing on the underground with posters on carriages and billboards.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 21:14:29 GMT
The NBA has no interest or intention of promoting the bbl. It gave them a scrap of help by letting the 2011 Nets game be piggy backed by the bbl trophy but that was a nice bit of PR. The nba is happy for bbl to bumble along and me to pay for NBATV.
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Post by spaghettihoops on Jan 28, 2019 18:13:42 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA. It was interesting to hear that the UK has more NBA League Pass subscribers than any other European country. Yet I believe the NBA is just as big, if not bigger, in some other European countries than in the UK. Anyone care to speculate why? I’d say it might have something to do with the fact other European countries have bigger domestic leagues/teams, so there’s more places for fans to get their basketball fix (i.e. less reliance on the NBA). What do you think? Only speculation but a couple of suggestions: Is NBA coverage on TV better/cheaper/more reliable in other countries so no need for League Pass? Are there more Americans in the UK? I think your suggestion of more interest in domestic/European games sounds plausible too.
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Post by r33 on Jan 28, 2019 18:30:57 GMT
The NBA game is fantastic for the NBA and does b****r all for the BBL. Those who will watch the NBA all day and night on TV don't want to see live basketball in GB if it's not NBA. This. Same with the NFL. Basketball and American Football are very much minority sports in the country when it comes to professional structures and people spectating. But thousands upon thousands will turn up for the NBA and the NFL. Probably cos its all about the event rather than the actual sport. Maybe for the NBA game in London there’s some big event tourism, but generally the NBA has enduring support in the UK because it is played by the best players in the world. Whereas the BBL isn’t. This is true for most countries in Europe too, NBA is bigger in Spain than the Spanish League.
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Post by Hector on Jan 29, 2019 0:26:17 GMT
This. Same with the NFL. Basketball and American Football are very much minority sports in the country when it comes to professional structures and people spectating. But thousands upon thousands will turn up for the NBA and the NFL. Probably cos its all about the event rather than the actual sport. Maybe for the NBA game in London there’s some big event tourism, but generally the NBA has enduring support in the UK because it is played by the best players in the world. Whereas the BBL isn’t. This is true for most countries in Europe too, NBA is bigger in Spain than the Spanish League. Nevertheless Basketball is a major sport in Spain and a number of countries in Europe. The debate isnt whether the NBA is number 1 or not, as there is no debate on that matter, but why the NBA games will attract massive numbers in this country compared to the small attendances for domestic Basketball. Nobody is expecting domestic games to be on a par with the NBA games but there is a massive disparity between the two, hence the event culture theory. The guy that sits opposite me at work went to one of the NFL games at Twickenham but isnt the slightest bit interested in American Football in this country.
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Post by r33 on Jan 29, 2019 8:40:35 GMT
Yes, I know, I’ve been to games in Spain. I’m just saying, there’s a massive disparity between the NBA and BBL for the same reason as there’s one between the Premier League and non-League football (I say this as a lifelong supporter of a team currently marooned in non-league). It IS about the sport!
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Post by LTFan on Jan 29, 2019 15:29:58 GMT
This. Same with the NFL. Basketball and American Football are very much minority sports in the country when it comes to professional structures and people spectating. But thousands upon thousands will turn up for the NBA and the NFL. Probably cos its all about the event rather than the actual sport. Maybe for the NBA game in London there’s some big event tourism, but generally the NBA has enduring support in the UK because it is played by the best players in the world. Whereas the BBL isn’t. This is true for most countries in Europe too, NBA is bigger in Spain than the Spanish League. Interesting point. And I personally am guilty of attending an NFL game in the UK having never watched any American Football before in my life. In fact I had to research the rules before I went! I went because I wanted to experience the atmosphere of the sport, not because I was an American Football fan. There’s no doubt the NBA London game has the same ‘issue’ (if you can call it that). And in my defence I do now watch the occasional NFL game (but admittedly have made no effort to seek out the domestic league). I assume this is no unique issue though. Whilst I was in LA a few years ago I saw a football (soccer) game being promoted featuring a Premiership team, maybe Man Utd, I can’t remember. But I suspect the popularity of that Premiership game far outweighed the popularity of a typical MLS game. So to take it back to an earlier point, in an ideal world the ‘giants of the sport’ (NBA for basketball, the Premier League for football etc.) should have a responsibility to use their status to grow their sport in countries where perhaps it’s a minority. But when these giants are private multi billion pound organisations, with the sole purpose of making more money – why would they? Other than some sort of moral code, why should the NBA promote the BBL? It wouldn’t benefit them in the slightest, in fact it could risk losing them a few fans. So whilst I don’t like it, I can completely understand why the NBA has no interest in promoting the BBL.
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Post by spaghettihoops on Jan 29, 2019 16:23:50 GMT
Not sure if I'm stating the obvious here but a lot of NBA games held in America have large numbers of people attending for the event, food, bars, T-shirt cannon, dance cam etc. The attention is more on the basketball only for certain games.
And there certainly are some true basketball fans at the London game (with deep pockets).
How the split compares, I'm not sure, but it might not differ greatly whether it's held at The O2 or the Garden.
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