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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 13, 2019 14:56:01 GMT
Can anyone explain why NBA games last for 48 minutes while in the BBL they are only 40 minutes? Are we being short changed? I'd 'd prefer more minutes but have just accepted we play 40 without ever questioning why we don't have 48.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 13, 2019 14:56:28 GMT
Can anyone explain why NBA games last for 48 minutes while in the BBL they are only 40 minutes? Are we being short changed? I'd prefer more minutes but have just accepted we play 40 without ever questioning why we don't have 48. We play fewer games in a season too.
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Post by rideralex on Feb 13, 2019 15:00:12 GMT
40 minutes is the standard length of a game and is followed by the vast majority of leagues other than the NBA. Supposedly the reason for NBA games being longer is for increased opportunities to sell food and drink to spectators (and presumably in more recent times to allow more advertisements to be shown during breaks in a game).
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Post by leamrider2 on Feb 13, 2019 15:10:35 GMT
It gives the courtside NBA "fans" more time to look at their mobile phones.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Feb 13, 2019 15:19:43 GMT
It gives the courtside NBA "fans" more time to look at their mobile phones. Brilliant! |
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Post by SamH on Feb 13, 2019 17:01:10 GMT
I think the NBA is the only league that plays 48, FIBA and other international bodies stipulate 40. There are other minor rule differences too which always come up at the Olympics or World championships when the NBA players have to try and make adjustments to FIBA rules. I don't know why the NBA have 48 but its always been that way. Wilt Chamberlain once averaged 48.5 minutes a game by basically playing every minute of every game plus a few overtimes!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 19:06:30 GMT
Sam is right (law of averages, etc), pro basketball in the states has virtually always be 4x12 (though they briefly tried 3x15 pre nba). China does (or did) 48, the Bbl did for a year in the 80s - apparently it was painful to watch.
The trend in sport now seems to be that quicker is better so I think it's highly unlikely we'll ever see an increase from 4x10
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Post by sussexbantam on Feb 14, 2019 9:12:20 GMT
40 minutes per game has been painful enough this season thanks...
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Post by LTFan on Feb 14, 2019 13:53:36 GMT
I’ve always thought the NBA adopt 12 min quarters (therefore 48 mins games) so that the games last 2 hours 30mins in the television schedules (as opposed to 2 hours) – therefore the opportunity to sell more advertising. That’s also why they have more time outs per game.
Whilst on the subject, why do the NCAA play basketball in 2 x 20 minutes halfs (as opposed to quarters)?
And here’s one more for you if we’re talking FIBA rules v NBA rules – why is the 3 point line a different distance in each?
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Post by everard on Feb 14, 2019 15:28:56 GMT
And why do NCAA women play 4x10
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Post by benji on Feb 14, 2019 15:38:56 GMT
I remember 2 20 minute halves in the BBL!
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Post by SamH on Feb 14, 2019 15:52:27 GMT
Don't know about the 20 minute halves but I believe the NBA moved its 3 point line out simply because it was too easy for too many guys to hit a high percentage of shots. Rather like when they widened the lane because Wilt was making a mockery of it. You need the dimensions to create a challenge and if the 3 line is too close a lot of guys are just going to be raining 3s in and the game will suffer - which is sort of happening now anyway because guys are able to hit from really deep at a high % these days.
Also I believe the NBA court is a bit larger, and I always put this down to the fact the players are generally bigger, stronger, more athletic than in any other league around the world, but there might be another reason for it.
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Post by LTFan on Feb 14, 2019 16:01:33 GMT
I remember 2 20 minute halves in the BBL! As do I! I think I remember it as recent as the late 90s? |
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Post by benji on Feb 14, 2019 16:52:31 GMT
I remember 2 20 minute halves in the BBL! As do I! I think I remember it as recent as the late 90s? Yep, that's when I remember it from. Was 4 quarters when I started watching around 92-93, but seem to remember it going to 2 halves then back to 4 quarters by the end of the 90s? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 18:13:34 GMT
And why do NCAA women play 4x10 A fairly recent change. I thought the men would follow ,but I think the issue is the number of TV timeouts. In the last 90s the BBL had ten minute quarters but the national cup was 20 minute halves. |
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Post by benji on Feb 14, 2019 19:52:54 GMT
And why do NCAA women play 4x10 A fairly recent change. I thought the men would follow ,but I think the issue is the number of TV timeouts. In the last 90s the BBL had ten minute quarters but the national cup was 20 minute halves. Fair enough, thought I remembered it for a whole season or two but I was only like 12/13 at the time! |
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Post by LTFan on Feb 15, 2019 10:10:33 GMT
And why do NCAA women play 4x10 A fairly recent change. I thought the men would follow ,but I think the issue is the number of TV timeouts. I know a lot of US sports are at least in part dictated to by TV coverage and advertising... but why is 4 x 12min quarters best for the NBA and 2 x 20min halves best for the NCAA? |
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Post by SamH on Feb 15, 2019 12:47:58 GMT
Also for some reason the NBA does 2 halves for the Rising Stars game tonight (or at least they have in previous years) I prefer 4 quarters myself, its easier to breakdown the story of the game into 4 sections instead of 2 long sections.
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Post by r33 on Feb 18, 2019 12:29:07 GMT
Some US States don’t even have a shot clock for high school basketball. Work that one out....
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Post by connors on Feb 19, 2019 8:33:40 GMT
I think the 12 minute quarters must in some part be down to the opportunity to sell crap during the game - whether live in arenas or via advertising.
I wonder if it is also linked also to the fact that the NBA has (for as long as I remember) 12 players on a team and the longer the game the easier to provide the minutes for the bench whilst ensuring the fans get to watch plenty of the stars in action?
Personally I would like to see complete harmonisation between FIBA and the NBA. Don't suppose it will ever happen.
So bearing in mind the NBA show little interest in harmonisation and only FIBA do I'd actually like to see FIBA go back to 10 man benches and 2 20 minute halves. Get rid of the bloody arrow and lastly bring back the 1 and 1 free throws for non-shooting fouls (only joking on the last one!).
Not sure about the 3pt line. In the NBA it feels like it could move back but FIBA? Bearing in mind FIBA is what all men (and due to court markings lots of women) are playing on from u16 up? Perhaps this is where the Americans have a more sensible approach with court dimensions adjusting to the age group......good luck with that one FIBA!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 10:07:42 GMT
Nice rant  I'd written this before I read it, but generally only post once a day, so it's good to see I'm not alone. |
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Post by r33 on Feb 22, 2019 21:08:48 GMT
I miss the trapezoid key.
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Post by LTFan on Feb 26, 2019 14:12:19 GMT
I think the 12 minute quarters must in some part be down to the opportunity to sell crap during the game - whether live in arenas or via advertising. I wonder if it is also linked also to the fact that the NBA has (for as long as I remember) 12 players on a team and the longer the game the easier to provide the minutes for the bench whilst ensuring the fans get to watch plenty of the stars in action? Personally I would like to see complete harmonisation between FIBA and the NBA. Don't suppose it will ever happen. So bearing in mind the NBA show little interest in harmonisation and only FIBA do I'd actually like to see FIBA go back to 10 man benches and 2 20 minute halves. Get rid of the bloody arrow and lastly bring back the 1 and 1 free throws for non-shooting fouls (only joking on the last one!). Not sure about the 3pt line. In the NBA it feels like it could move back but FIBA? Bearing in mind FIBA is what all men (and due to court markings lots of women) are playing on from u16 up? Perhaps this is where the Americans have a more sensible approach with court dimensions adjusting to the age group......good luck with that one FIBA! On this note, you may have seen FIBA and the NBA have agreed to jointly launch and manage a new ‘Africa Basketball League’. I think this is the closest I’ve ever seen the two organisations work together, so it’ll be interested what they do in regards to court size, 3 point line distance, length of quarters etc. |
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Post by connors on Feb 26, 2019 21:35:36 GMT
Talking of FIBA what do they actually do? I’m sure they don’t have the money or influence of their football counterparts.
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