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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 19:01:23 GMT
Nobody...
But Matt Martin confined hes not coming back as hes rejoined the Danum Eagles
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 4, 2019 21:09:44 GMT
Great post there Mr Tall.
You had a quiet minute or so I guess.
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 8, 2019 18:46:50 GMT
Out on social media today. Annoucements of signings tomorrow and Thursday, either side of the fixtures being announced on Wednesday.
Thursday's signing will be Sharks 5th player announced (apparently).
1. Marko
2. Sedale
3. Tuck? (tbc but I would say a safe bet)
4. To be announced Tuesday
5. To be announced Thursday
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 20:35:08 GMT
Rob Marsden has liked the post, guess hes one of them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 5:02:21 GMT
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Post by dazzle on Jul 9, 2019 5:12:05 GMT
BBL experience is valuable and he was one of the little leading lights for Sheffield last year.The game I saw him in at the turn of the year and his season stats I a was surprised not to see him in and around the British team of the year.Interested to see what way they go in relation to imports and euro slots. Creating that depth is what they crave.
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 9, 2019 6:25:22 GMT
Yep. Rob announced this morning.
Actually his 2nd year of a 2 year contract.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 6:37:43 GMT
The fact that a player in the middle of his contract is announced as a returnee sums up the value of a multi year bbl contract
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 9, 2019 7:01:05 GMT
The fact that a player in the middle of his contract is announced as a returnee sums up the value of a multi year bbl contract Too true. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 9, 2019 7:10:28 GMT
Cant say I'm at all enthusiastic about Sheffield's announcements thus far.
Yes Marsden is solid - but was he really ever going anywhere? Marko and Sedale are bench fodder if they want to compete properly, and Tuck's role is decreasing all the time.
It concerns me that the biggest news so far is the departure of Williams and Alexander.
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Post by stevetheballer on Jul 9, 2019 10:56:51 GMT
Cant say I'm at all enthusiastic about Sheffield's announcements thus far. Yes Marsden is solid - but was he really ever going anywhere? Marko and Sedale are bench fodder if they want to compete properly, and Tuck's role is decreasing all the time. It concerns me that the biggest news so far is the departure of Williams and Alexander. As an outsider looking in I can’t disagree, these aren’t exactly inspirational signings that are going to get everybody talking. Your team needs something big after the departures of Williams and Alexander or its just going to be the same old Sharks and this season isn’t going to be any different to the last few. |
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 9, 2019 11:29:46 GMT
Cant say I'm at all enthusiastic about Sheffield's announcements thus far. Yes Marsden is solid - but was he really ever going anywhere? Marko and Sedale are bench fodder if they want to compete properly, and Tuck's role is decreasing all the time. It concerns me that the biggest news so far is the departure of Williams and Alexander. 98% agree with you; Sedale, Marko, Tuck and Marsden. We aren't lighting any trees up there and way off a team that's going to challenge for any thing. Only bit I can disagree with or argue with is that I've not actually seen any thing saying that Alexander is not coming back. I am however aware that discussions were going on regarding pay etc and if Alexander didn't like what Sharks were offering, he may well have gone elsewhere, but I've not seen anything to confirm this. I've said it before, William's was always going to go, no surprises there, it was more of a surprise that he stayed for a 2nd season. Undoubtedly we have to make some great additions to make us a team that will threaten for any silverware. The promise is a better bench, let's hope that means no more SHU bench warmers. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 9, 2019 11:48:34 GMT
The thing that's saved Sharks time and again for me (and Atiba) is his recruitment of Yanks - he tends to unearth some decent players who carry the Sharks a bit.
He's going to need to pull two or three out of the bag again if they're going to compete this year.
All this said they'll probably still make playoffs - but is that really good enough?
(Pretty sure I saw Alexander sign somewhere else a few weeks back in Europe but I could be wrong there!)
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 9, 2019 16:06:23 GMT
Now there's something I don't agree with, although I can fully see the doom merchants agreeing with you, maybe a bit too much in Atiba's favour to get the agreement of the Atiba outers.
Whereas we appear to be in decline or at least be overtaken by other teams (stand still and you go backwards...) I don't think we've reached the point of having to be saved just yet.
We have dropped in the league and can not mount a challenge for the title but we still are always there or there abouts with silverware. Agreed semi final places aren't what the great Sharks of yesteryear would be happy with and 3 years without a trophy is a long time for us but we're always in the shake up.
Maybe the last trophy winning side depended on Brooke's too much, but then there was Cook...
What would other teams be like without their star 'MVP' players? Honest question.
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Post by sharkball on Jul 9, 2019 18:29:18 GMT
The team as it stands is 2 bench players and 2 players who should not play at all only in case of emergency ... need 3 quality imports and 3 more non permit players
Tough ask
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 9, 2019 21:33:04 GMT
Now there's something I don't agree with, although I can fully see the doom merchants agreeing with you, maybe a bit too much in Atiba's favour to get the agreement of the Atiba outers. Whereas we appear to be in decline or at least be overtaken by other teams (stand still and you go backwards...) I don't think we've reached the point of having to be saved just yet. We have dropped in the league and can not mount a challenge for the title but we still are always there or there abouts with silverware. Agreed semi final places aren't what the great Sharks of yesteryear would be happy with and 3 years without a trophy is a long time for us but we're always in the shake up. Maybe the last trophy winning side depended on Brooke's too much, but then there was Cook... What would other teams be like without their star 'MVP' players? Honest question. I guess I am talking relatively here when I say saved I guess - this is the Sheffield Sharks were talking about. I'm not intending to be disrespectful but youre one of the most storied franchises in the country. You're not an upstart like a new age Giants or a Bristol flyers who are happy to make playoffs - you're a team with a prestigious history of trophies and great players - home grown and otherwise - it almost saddens me as a neutral to see the decline. |
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Post by Colicab85 on Jul 10, 2019 15:08:38 GMT
Yeah, absolutely right.
On history alone, not that history makes a difference at all but still, we should be competing with Leicester and Newcastle.
The coach is abysmal. The recruitment is consistently poor and the game presentation is just not good enough anymore. Has the music changed in 25 years?
I'm not a doom merchant i don't think, I'm just saddened by whats happening in Sheffield. While ever the happy clappers keep making apologies for the nonsense it will never change.
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 10, 2019 16:07:26 GMT
Yeah, absolutely right. On history alone, not that history makes a difference at all but still, we should be competing with Leicester and Newcastle. The coach is abysmal. The recruitment is consistently poor and the game presentation is just not good enough anymore. Has the music changed in 25 years? I'm not a doom merchant i don't think, I'm just saddened by whats happening in Sheffield. While ever the happy clappers keep making apologies for the nonsense it will never change. Agreed we have fallen behind the likes of Newcastle, Leicester and now London (Lions) and I'd question if we are to compete with them ever again. It's going to need some massive changes and even more money. As for the game presentation and music; it does help if you speak to the guys (they are human) instead of slating it/them on here. For instance I know that they were limited to what they could do at the EIS, certainly no black outs for instance, no screens etc etc. As for the music, I guess you love it or hate it. Cheesey it maybe but it does get the crowd going and incidentally the same guy is chosen for other larger basketball events ie finals so somebody must be happy somewhere. I've also seen and heard much worse elsewhere in the league so I don't think you can blame music and night presentation on the sharks current plight. Maybe the 'poor' recruitment might be solely budget based. I used to love to see young sharks and SHU players on the bench, good for development etc but I now only see it as cutting costs. The management have promised us a better deeper bench this season unfortunately it may come at a cost regarding how many 'good' or even 'better' players we can recruit to our starting 5. Happy or otherwise, disappointed even, we can no longer live with the likes of Lions financially or competitively, move on, get over it and support your team whether they are 4th, 8th or 12th. Unless you can either sponsor or raise a large amount of money to back the team and then help to turn the club around. |
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Post by Colicab85 on Jul 10, 2019 16:21:30 GMT
I understand that budgets are a factor of course but what did Einstein say the definition of insanity is? Repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different result!
WE NEED A NEW COACH!
Who’s to say that a new coach couldn’t come in with a different recruitment philosophy and better contacts thats more successfully able to work within that budget, because frankly Atiba has proven a multitude of times that he in incapable of putting together a good team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 16:38:08 GMT
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Post by sharkball on Jul 11, 2019 5:53:08 GMT
Mackey McKnight back
He did ok when he came back but is a streaky shooter and inconsistent ball handler and set up guy. Poor defender too.
The fact the Sharks have lost their best two players and most improved and decent role player in Martin is worrying when e have brought 5 of the less thab stand out players back. We will need to pull 2 absolute rabbits out of the hat import wise and 2 non permit players who can actually play and start.
With the way the current roster and the return of Lyons I am concerned that this could the first season in pur history we fail to make the playoffs....especially with the start of the league fixtures which see us away first three and playing all the better teams from last year.
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Post by vikkimoo on Jul 11, 2019 6:18:35 GMT
Maybe we’re waiting for Ovie to get out of Love Island lol!
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Post by dazzle on Jul 11, 2019 6:20:53 GMT
Pure negativity down in Yorkshire. Over the years Leicester have been known and some say a reason for their success for retaining a number of players who can deliver albeit not league leading but fill minutes all the way down to tenth man. Sharks have stated this is their intention and looking at it are so far keeping to the promise. 5 signings so far I feel are useful and can contribute, albeit not spectacular yet but it's too early to right off them off. I mean think of us poor Worcester fans snd the London and Surrey clubs right now. Just typical of every year I have been following basketball.I just seeing the sharks as getting what they need to done.
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Post by dyb dyb on Jul 11, 2019 6:40:24 GMT
Pure negativity down in Yorkshire. Over the years Leicester have been known and some say a reason for their success for retaining a number of players who can deliver albeit not league leading but fill minutes all the way down to tenth man. Sharks have stated this is their intention and looking at it are so far keeping to the promise. 5 signings so far I feel are useful and can contribute, albeit not spectacular yet but it's too early to right off them off. I mean think of us poor Worcester fans snd the London and Surrey clubs right now. Just typical of every year I have been following basketball.I just seeing the sharks as getting what they need to done. Surely 'Up' in Yorkshire. Don't want to be negative about this. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 11, 2019 6:54:12 GMT
I'm now starting to become extremely twitchy unless they pull it out the bag with the last three/four signings.
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