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Post by LTFan on Apr 9, 2020 15:03:57 GMT
I really don't know. I'm not sure what D1 could bring to the table. I don't think you really need more that eight teams, at least not to start with. You need them all to have similar venues and playing budgets to make it a competitive league. They key is getting on telly, whether it's Sky/BT or even terrestrial on a decent slot that doesn't move at the whim of the broadcaster. Considering Sky & BT are funded by both advertisers and subscribers, there's no reason why a proper sport should have to pay for its games to be shown. But clearly it does, and I have no idea how much that would cost and whether there could be a genuine return on the investment required. I'd go further, and say if we're talking about a brand new league trying to establish a following then even a regular slot on Sky Sports/BT Sport might not be enough. Unless you're a major sport, viewership on these premium subscription channels is very small. If this new league had a weekly game on BT Sport then it's unlikely to have more viewers than the BBL's combined weekly reach for it games on YouTube. If it, or the BBL, could get a weekly slot on something like ITV4 then that's a whole different situation. |
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Post by LTFan on Apr 9, 2020 15:06:28 GMT
Did it ever start?
KO, can't get your link to work. Just getting a blank page
Try this it's the one dated 5th Oct 2015. HEREOut of pure curiosity, I'd love to know what their £150 of tangible assets are. A fax machine?  |
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Post by ko25 on Apr 9, 2020 20:19:21 GMT
I really don't know. I'm not sure what D1 could bring to the table. I don't think you really need more that eight teams, at least not to start with. You need them all to have similar venues and playing budgets to make it a competitive league. They key is getting on telly, whether it's Sky/BT or even terrestrial on a decent slot that doesn't move at the whim of the broadcaster. Considering Sky & BT are funded by both advertisers and subscribers, there's no reason why a proper sport should have to pay for its games to be shown. But clearly it does, and I have no idea how much that would cost and whether there could be a genuine return on the investment required. I'd go further, and say if we're talking about a brand new league trying to establish a following then even a regular slot on Sky Sports/BT Sport might not be enough. Unless you're a major sport, viewership on these premium subscription channels is very small. If this new league had a weekly game on BT Sport then it's unlikely to have more viewers than the BBL's combined weekly reach for it games on YouTube. If it, or the BBL, could get a weekly slot on something like ITV4 then that's a whole different situation. In the WB League it'd be a breakaway league so we're using established teams so gaining a following should be a lot easier than starting from scratch. The carrot would have to be the TV. |
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Post by youngrocks on May 13, 2020 16:48:15 GMT
Theyve just tweeted that they look to continue... im not even sharing the tweet. I wander what they'll be called now.
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Post by Shocker on May 13, 2020 18:10:08 GMT
Theyve just tweeted that they look to continue... im not even sharing the tweet. I wander what they'll be called now. Saw that, and yawn.........either it’s a sham or they’re delusional or they are really onto something big. No way to tell and could care less!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 18:47:38 GMT
Theyve just tweeted that they look to continue... im not even sharing the tweet. I wander what they'll be called now. I'm sure they'll continue to do exactly what they've been doing for more than 15 years. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 20:33:50 GMT
What is their Twitter handle?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 20:40:01 GMT
#nevergonnahappen
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Post by youngrocks on May 13, 2020 20:41:51 GMT
Im just suprised im not blocked by them whereas i am by the bbl somehow...
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Post by ko25 on May 13, 2020 21:16:20 GMT
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Post by Kareem on May 14, 2020 2:21:45 GMT
Totally agree! Taken far too long to be taken seriously, if it ever was. That said, I also think the BBL and most of its clubs will go out of business as they won’t get a government bailout and won’t be able to attract investment. Interesting g times ahead gents. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 7:58:23 GMT
Managed to find it, deluded springs to mind after reading that.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 11:44:24 GMT
I've been unlocked by them! I'll try and get blocked again
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Post by LTFan on May 15, 2020 14:18:17 GMT
Theyve just tweeted that they look to continue... im not even sharing the tweet. I wander what they'll be called now. Continue? I haven't seen any evidence they've started.  |
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Post by skeg on May 15, 2020 22:13:56 GMT
Just thinking outside the box here.
As deluded as they might be and no product put forward in the years gone by, is there not a chance they might be looking to relaunch in a post virus sporting landscape by coming to the “rescue” of a league and number of clubs that might just be struggling to exist?
I’m thinking they might have a second go at what they wanted to achieve in 2005 but at a time when the league/clubs might not have any other choice.
BBL might struggle on with collapsing teams and then be unable to run and fold completely leaving another consortium to start something new with any teams able to carry on able to join?
I don’t have any connection to BBA/PBL/BBL by the way (that should save a few pages of waffle). In fact I’m currently reminiscing by watching Towers vs Leopards from about ‘97🙂
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 23:25:04 GMT
How can they relaunch something if it never really started in the first place?
Assuming they know something that we aren't privy to then I'd suggest we wait and see but my feeling is, that nothing will come of it.
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Post by Future on May 16, 2020 4:13:01 GMT
Just thinking outside the box here. As deluded as they might be and no product put forward in the years gone by, is there not a chance they might be looking to relaunch in a post virus sporting landscape by coming to the “rescue” of a league and number of clubs that might just be struggling to exist? I’m thinking they might have a second go at what they wanted to achieve in 2005 but at a time when the league/clubs might not have any other choice. BBL might struggle on with collapsing teams and then be unable to run and fold completely leaving another consortium to start something new with any teams able to carry on able to join? I don’t have any connection to BBA/PBL/BBL by the way (that should save a few pages of waffle). In fact I’m currently reminiscing by watching Towers vs Leopards from about ‘97🙂 I was thinking the same. Giants, Rocks, Lions are out imho. And I’m not convinced we’ve seen the last of PLBBA given their twitter post a days ago. Either they are complete frauds or deadly serious, but I take a wait and see. They did/do have some big names behind them including Ken Olisa who I’m met through his charity. He’s as real as they come and is polar opposite to Sir Rodney who is a complete waste of space. |
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Post by davef on May 16, 2020 23:12:19 GMT
Hello yeoman (Gareth in Sussex I think was your last alter ego)
Nice to have you back
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Post by notoriousbigz on May 17, 2020 13:30:25 GMT
Just thinking outside the box here. As deluded as they might be and no product put forward in the years gone by, is there not a chance they might be looking to relaunch in a post virus sporting landscape by coming to the “rescue” of a league and number of clubs that might just be struggling to exist? I’m thinking they might have a second go at what they wanted to achieve in 2005 but at a time when the league/clubs might not have any other choice. BBL might struggle on with collapsing teams and then be unable to run and fold completely leaving another consortium to start something new with any teams able to carry on able to join? I don’t have any connection to BBA/PBL/BBL by the way (that should save a few pages of waffle). In fact I’m currently reminiscing by watching Towers vs Leopards from about ‘97🙂 I was thinking the same. Giants, Rocks, Lions are out imho. And I’m not convinced we’ve seen the last of PLBBA given their twitter post a days ago. Either they are complete frauds or deadly serious, but I take a wait and see. They did/do have some big names behind them including Ken Olisa who I’m met through his charity. He’s as real as they come and is polar opposite to Sir Rodney who is a complete waste of space. Ohhhhh f*ck off. |
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Post by skeg on May 17, 2020 13:51:47 GMT
I’m not yeoman by the way, or Ron, or Gareth from Sussex just to clear that one up.
I was just airing a thought.
Clubs have come and gone quite frequently in the time I’ve been watching BBL and most seem to survive in a year to year basis.
This is probably the most challenging time the league is going to go through and even when a restart is going to happen it is going to be anything from normal. Lower crowds will be inevitable (if even allowed) for a while and sponsorship is going to be even harder to attract to a sporting product that is not on tv.
How is league going to look coming through this particular challenge?
Like I said, I was just airing a thought and thinking outside the box.
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Post by ko25 on May 17, 2020 14:24:57 GMT
I’m not yeoman by the way, or Ron, or Gareth from Sussex just to clear that one up. I was just airing a thought. Clubs have come and gone quite frequently in the time I’ve been watching BBL and most seem to survive in a year to year basis. This is probably the most challenging time the league is going to go through and even when a restart is going to happen it is going to be anything from normal. Lower crowds will be inevitable (if even allowed) for a while and sponsorship is going to be even harder to attract to a sporting product that is not on tv. How is league going to look coming through this particular challenge? Like I said, I was just airing a thought and thinking outside the box. Don't worry I think it's this guy "Future" that everyones aiming that at. t31072 |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 14:56:18 GMT
I've been following BBL since 2012, seen a few teams fold, Mersey, Birmingham, Durham, Leeds & London City.
That's 5 teams who've gone to the wall.
Some starting at a lower level and working their way up into the BBL, another was ill prepared, a couple of the others having some success.
I do hope that more care and due diligence are taken into consideration the next time a team enters.
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Post by Future on May 17, 2020 15:09:26 GMT
I’m not yeoman by the way, or Ron, or Gareth from Sussex just to clear that one up. I was just airing a thought. Clubs have come and gone quite frequently in the time I’ve been watching BBL and most seem to survive in a year to year basis. This is probably the most challenging time the league is going to go through and even when a restart is going to happen it is going to be anything from normal. Lower crowds will be inevitable (if even allowed) for a while and sponsorship is going to be even harder to attract to a sporting product that is not on tv. How is league going to look coming through this particular challenge? Like I said, I was just airing a thought and thinking outside the box. Don't worry I think it's this guy "Future" that everyones aiming that at.  Nope, I'm not yoman, Ron, Gareth from Sussex and am not in any way connect to PLBBA. Don't insult me. Just stating the obvious like most others on this board who are thinking outside the box and challenging the status quo. Its times like these that test business models. We will see if the BBL model stacks up real soon I reckon. And its not just the BBL, most basketball in Europe, football clubs that relay mostly on gate revenue. All will be tested and will have to adapt to a new normal where financial performance will be the most important factor in club ownership. This will be an interesting 3-4 months! |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 19:21:21 GMT
Ron Scott's "business" has a model that's involved losing huge sums of money to not stage basketball games. It's brilliant. Some more thoughts. |
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Post by GetREAL on May 20, 2020 20:16:47 GMT
Ron Scott's "business" has a model that's involved losing huge sums of money to not stage basketball games. It's brilliant. Some more thoughts. FFS Hersey, no one cares about this farce but seems you have an obsession with Ron Scott. If he wants to spend another decade Or two chasing this illusion, good on him but you’re clearly just hating. Unless you know something we don’t, just tell us but the constant bashing of what is widely considered a nonentity, is a waste of time mate. You really need to get a life and put down the booze. GetREAL |
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