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Post by gbman on Sept 13, 2019 9:59:42 GMT
I hear some refs have cut from BBL
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 13, 2019 13:09:33 GMT
I hear some refs have cut from BBL They've chosen to leave or they've been told to leave? |
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Post by blueskies99 on Sept 13, 2019 13:19:27 GMT
I hear some refs have cut from BBL They've chosen to leave or they've been told to leave? ......and how many? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 13:24:49 GMT
I doubt any season has started with exactly the same group of referees covering the BBL as finished the previous year. And no doubt anyone who's been dropped will be a bit miffed.
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Post by gbman on Sept 16, 2019 6:59:32 GMT
7 have been cut by Martin Ford
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Post by blueskies99 on Sept 16, 2019 7:50:09 GMT
Is this related to the changes made to the seasons format?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 8:09:40 GMT
Why would it. There's only 12 less games over the course of the season. I'm more concerned about Fordy going around cutting people. Lives not knives  |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 8:19:47 GMT
I'm sure new refs must have been added at same time?
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Post by gbman on Sept 16, 2019 8:30:09 GMT
He told them via email 3 weeks before the season started very proffesional not!!!
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 8:32:10 GMT
He told them via email 3 weeks before the season started very proffesional not!!! I've heard far worse than that tbh Some people lose their full time jobs overnight by text |
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Post by blueskies99 on Sept 16, 2019 8:49:26 GMT
Why would it. There's only 12 less games over the course of the season. I'm more concerned about Fordy going around cutting people. Lives not knives I dunno.....that's why I asked
Perhaps changes to the BBL cup being regional.......perhaps only playing teams twice instead three times.......
Seven does seem to be a lot......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 10:06:06 GMT
He told them via email 3 weeks before the season started very proffesional not!!! I've heard far worse than that tbh Some people lose their full time jobs overnight by text Imagine finding out you're sacked when someone tells you they've just accepted your job so you dont need to come in now |
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Post by gbman on Sept 20, 2019 11:11:38 GMT
I hear 1 ref been put back in BBL on the orders of the league Mr Ford had his collar felt again!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 11:39:30 GMT
He told them via email 3 weeks before the season started very proffesional not!!! I've heard far worse than that tbh Some people lose their full time jobs overnight by text The Mersey Tigers press release that they were out the BBL was equally as good. It was nearly two sentences at the end of an article that wasn't anything to do with the team. |
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Post by 2NFR on Sept 23, 2019 15:19:57 GMT
Now, I'm not one for ... ahem!! conspiracy theories, but... With the advent of a lot more game video content in previous years, maybe their abilities as refs have been brought into question !! Not entirely sure how the complaints system works, but if enough coaches/players/fans complain ... maybe somebody somewhere is taking action !! Just an opinion Personally I blame Brexit and Trump ... but that's just me ... The truth is out there  |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2019 15:26:07 GMT
I've heard far worse than that tbh Some people lose their full time jobs overnight by text The Mersey Tigers press release that they were out the BBL was equally as good. It was nearly two sentences at the end of an article that wasn't anything to do with the team. The league didn't bother informing the owners or any of the shower of sh*t that played for them either.
I was told by a fan. I then told our coach, who was then out of a job. He has (and had at the time) a wife and three young kids.
As it goes, Martin Ford is a decent bloke - and a very good referee (and therefore assessor in my eyes). He's the type of person the game in this country should listen to more often, and not the "do you know who I am" chest beating bureaucrat that's never played the game in their life.
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Post by rideralex on Sept 23, 2019 16:42:09 GMT
With nearly all of the most frequently complained about refs appearing at BBL games at the weekend either we as fans have a different opinion as to what makes a good ref than what is actually the case or 7 refs being dropped was simply untrue....
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Post by dyb dyb on Sept 23, 2019 18:03:06 GMT
Now, I'm not one for ... ahem!! conspiracy theories, but... With the advent of a lot more game video content in previous years, maybe their abilities as refs have been brought into question !! Not entirely sure how the complaints system works, but if enough coaches/players/fans complain ... maybe somebody somewhere is taking action !! Just an opinion Personally I blame Brexit and Trump ... but that's just me ... The truth is out there Fair point. Will certainly help us fans as we can now watch each others games (if we want to) and compare notes/thoughts. A bit of what you complaining about? Nothing wrong there or even oh yea that was as bad as you said. Incidentally, I know we won on Sunday but I do think there were some bad calls and non calls but for once we had a big enough lead to not give a damn. ;-) I was able to sit back and enjoy the game. I now know how a riders fan must feel (fish) |
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Post by notafan on Sept 23, 2019 20:59:46 GMT
The Mersey Tigers press release that they were out the BBL was equally as good. It was nearly two sentences at the end of an article that wasn't anything to do with the team. The league didn't bother informing the owners or any of the shower of sh*t that played for them either.
I was told by a fan. I then told our coach, who was then out of a job. He has (and had at the time) a wife and three young kids.
As it goes, Martin Ford is a decent bloke - and a very good referee (and therefore assessor in my eyes). He's the type of person the game in this country should listen to more often, and not the "do you know who I am" chest beating bureaucrat that's never played the game in their life.
I know you’ve got long hair Bigz but I can’t recall you playing Division 2 women? That’s the only league Ford reffed! |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 24, 2019 6:49:51 GMT
The league didn't bother informing the owners or any of the shower of sh*t that played for them either.
I was told by a fan. I then told our coach, who was then out of a job. He has (and had at the time) a wife and three young kids.
As it goes, Martin Ford is a decent bloke - and a very good referee (and therefore assessor in my eyes). He's the type of person the game in this country should listen to more often, and not the "do you know who I am" chest beating bureaucrat that's never played the game in their life.
I know you’ve got long hair Bigz but I can’t recall you playing Division 2 women? That’s the only league Ford reffed! Haha!!!!! He definitely did one or two of my D2 games in the midlands (definitely Loughborough) about 5/6 years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 12:12:40 GMT
The Mersey Tigers press release that they were out the BBL was equally as good. It was nearly two sentences at the end of an article that wasn't anything to do with the team. The league didn't bother informing the owners or any of the shower of sh*t that played for them either.
I was told by a fan. I then told our coach, who was then out of a job. He has (and had at the time) a wife and three young kids.
As it goes, Martin Ford is a decent bloke - and a very good referee (and therefore assessor in my eyes). He's the type of person the game in this country should listen to more often, and not the "do you know who I am" chest beating bureaucrat that's never played the game in their life.
I didn't realise it was that brutal. I thought the BBL just didn't announce it publicly too well. How does an organisation think its OK for people to find out they lost their jobs because their team has been closed through word of mouth from anyone that just happens to find out. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 24, 2019 12:50:10 GMT
The league didn't bother informing the owners or any of the shower of sh*t that played for them either.
I was told by a fan. I then told our coach, who was then out of a job. He has (and had at the time) a wife and three young kids.
As it goes, Martin Ford is a decent bloke - and a very good referee (and therefore assessor in my eyes). He's the type of person the game in this country should listen to more often, and not the "do you know who I am" chest beating bureaucrat that's never played the game in their life.
I didn't realise it was that brutal. I thought the BBL just didn't announce it publicly too well. How does an organisation think its OK for people to find out they lost their jobs because their team has been closed through word of mouth from anyone that just happens to find out.It was an absolute farce. No prior warning and we got something like a week and a half within which to appeal.
By the way, we didn't get any refund on the money paid to enter the franchise into the league. I don't know how much it was for definite not do I know how much had been paid (as the league did allow for staggered buy in fees), but the figures banded about at the time were around £250,000.00.
So, stump a load of cash up to buy a "franchise", then get dumped like that "following a review" (the criteria and findings of which nobody ever got to see) and don't see a penny of your investment back. I suggested a legal challenge which I looked into in depth and I worked out that we would have had good grounds for success, alas the owners simply didn't want to pay for it. I imagine that position would have changed if the owners were the same ones that paid the entry fee in the first place.
A lot of people see the BBL as the holy grail in this country - the truth often differs.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 24, 2019 13:21:46 GMT
I'm not sure they see it as the Holy Grail, just the best we have in British Basketball!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 16:15:09 GMT
I didn't realise it was that brutal. I thought the BBL just didn't announce it publicly too well. How does an organisation think its OK for people to find out they lost their jobs because their team has been closed through word of mouth from anyone that just happens to find out.It was an absolute farce. No prior warning and we got something like a week and a half within which to appeal.
By the way, we didn't get any refund on the money paid to enter the franchise into the league. I don't know how much it was for definite not do I know how much had been paid (as the league did allow for staggered buy in fees), but the figures banded about at the time were around £250,000.00.
So, stump a load of cash up to buy a "franchise", then get dumped like that "following a review" (the criteria and findings of which nobody ever got to see) and don't see a penny of your investment back. I suggested a legal challenge which I looked into in depth and I worked out that we would have had good grounds for success, alas the owners simply didn't want to pay for it. I imagine that position would have changed if the owners were the same ones that paid the entry fee in the first place.
A lot of people see the BBL as the holy grail in this country - the truth often differs.
We were provisionally granted a BBL franchise around the time Tigers went belly-up. Without going into details, he magic number was a lot lower than £250k around that time. Given the kind of instalments we were asked for, I doubt Tigers paid more than half the number you've heard - assuming they even had the cash in the final couple of years. The franchise fee isn't a deposit, the only way you see it again is to sell it. I presume no one wanted to buy it. That doesn't excuse how their expulsion was handled, though I guess we'll never know if anyone had received warning they never passed on. The treble year will always be tainted (for me, anyway) because they did it with players they couldn't afford. |
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Post by blueskies99 on Sept 24, 2019 19:58:39 GMT
According to FB, it seems as though the referees are also having issues registering with BE  |
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