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Post by clyde on Nov 12, 2019 9:29:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 10:46:30 GMT
Good episode with some good points.
Glasgow are just in a mess right now. They are stumbling from disaster to disaster both on and off the court and it doesn't look like ending any time soon. It all started with the way they got rid of Sterling Davis and has been quickly downhill since then. There's a right way and a wrong way to do things and this new owner seems to find a way to do the latter every time.
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Post by stevetino on Nov 12, 2019 11:50:12 GMT
But they looked really good in the first month of the season?? 🤔
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Nov 12, 2019 11:58:49 GMT
But they looked really good in the first month of the season?? 🤔 Or all other teams were really bad. Nix were and lost first 4. Rocks did win the pre season tournament at Cheshire, at least they can say they won something......the Mike Burton trophy. Wonder if it's in the trophy cabinet if they've got one? |
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Post by dyb dyb on Nov 12, 2019 12:22:14 GMT
But they looked really good in the first month of the season?? 🤔 Or all other teams were really bad. Nix were and lost first 4. Rocks did win the pre season tournament at Cheshire, at least they can say they won something......the Mike Burton trophy. Wonder if it's in the trophy cabinet if they've got one? But what were their first few games? I can't remember off the top of my head.
No disrespect to Nix, they were poor, but have added and improved since then, but were they one of the teams beaten by Rocks. Then there was the whole Manchester thing...
Arguably, Rocks' toughest test in those early days of the season was against us and we gave them a bit of a drumming.
I had a little 'debate' with a certain Rocks' fan at the time about how good Sharks were/were not and whether Rocks would qualify above Sharks or not. At the time no decision had been made about the Rocks/Giants game. I predicted that if we beat them and in they were to lose in the rearranged game against Giants (they've since had 2 points taken off them) that it would be indeed the Rocks struggling to qualify and not the Sharks .
I'll leave that there.
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Post by stevetino on Nov 12, 2019 12:34:18 GMT
Well they won at eagles & must have played Riders, Sharks & Nix but then dropped of a cliff
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Post by youngrocks on Nov 12, 2019 15:43:33 GMT
Or all other teams were really bad. Nix were and lost first 4. Rocks did win the pre season tournament at Cheshire, at least they can say they won something......the Mike Burton trophy. Wonder if it's in the trophy cabinet if they've got one? But what were their first few games? I can't remember off the top of my head.
No disrespect to Nix, they were poor, but have added and improved since then, but were they one of the teams beaten by Rocks. Then there was the whole Manchester thing...
Arguably, Rocks' toughest test in those early days of the season was against us and we gave them a bit of a drumming.
I had a little 'debate' with a certain Rocks' fan at the time about how good Sharks were/were not and whether Rocks would qualify above Sharks or not. At the time no decision had been made about the Rocks/Giants game. I predicted that if we beat them and in they were to lose in the rearranged game against Giants (they've since had 2 points taken off them) that it would be indeed the Rocks struggling to qualify and not the Sharks .
I'll leave that there.
A certain rocks fan here! Why the need to elaberate on what a forum is about?... Rocks lost narrowly to eagles then won in Newcastle. Thumped giants home and away... so unless eagles are that poor? Ill admit sharks have looked impressive but the fact many doubted them says more about the standard of play this season so far (We like to speak about that on here) than maybe how good sharks really are? League kicks off december, I suspect a few teams might look to transform their roster. Glad we've done it now. |
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Post by sussexbantam on Nov 12, 2019 18:55:18 GMT
Yay - you said Surrey and not Guildford ! But you can f@&k off with the idea of creating a Lions/Royals/Scorchers group...
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Post by dyb dyb on Nov 12, 2019 19:53:33 GMT
Going off thread a little, but in response.
Posters on here, including other supporters of the sharks are always dishing the sharks, season after season, league position, performance and the coach (have I missed anything?) I have often felt alone in defending their chances, occasionally to be joined by one other in championing the sharks.
The start of this season was just the same as others, with early wins against Nix and Giants looked upon as, well they've only beaten poor teams who will finish bottom of the league and the sharks will still struggle to qualify for the play offs.
Just because they are proving me right (so far) and on current form are turning a few heads, does that automatically mean it's a weaker league?
As I said, teams are taking the cup games to make adjustments. Nix have already done so and are better for it.
This does worry me, but yet I am hopeful that the sharks can make their own additions with 2 existing players from the very first tip on opening night having left the club and leaving gaps on the bench.
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Post by LTFan on Nov 14, 2019 9:53:35 GMT
I don’t know if you’re being a little over sensitive. The vibe I’ve got from most on this forum is that Sheffield are, and will be, one of the stingiest teams this season. Having said that….
I do agree with the point made in this weeks podcast. I have a feeling that the Sheffield we’re seeing right now might be playing at almost full potential. Whereas I’m expecting to see improvements from the likes of Riders, Eagles, Lions as the season progresses. So I think Sheffield will start to lose their dominance as the competition rises. But as long as Sheffield can continue at this level they’ll still be in that competition at the top… and I’d expect to see them in a top 4 place at the end of the season, just perhaps not 1 or 2 as they currently would be.
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Post by LTFan on Nov 14, 2019 9:56:20 GMT
On a side note, the thing I agree most with in this week’s podcast – why don’t the BBL update the league tables on their own bloody website! Sometimes it can be days before results are reflected, so unprofessional! I’ve resorted to using FlashScore now, which updates the tables almost immediately.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 14, 2019 10:31:32 GMT
I don’t know if you’re being a little over sensitive. The vibe I’ve got from most on this forum is that Sheffield are, and will be, one of the stingiest teams this season. Having said that…. I do agree with the point made in this weeks podcast. I have a feeling that the Sheffield we’re seeing right now might be playing at almost full potential. Whereas I’m expecting to see improvements from the likes of Riders, Eagles, Lions as the season progresses. So I think Sheffield will start to lose their dominance as the competition rises. But as long as Sheffield can continue at this level they’ll still be in that competition at the top… and I’d expect to see them in a top 4 place at the end of the season, just perhaps not 1 or 2 as they currently would be. I don't think I could have put my thoughts any better than this. So consider the above duplicated!!!! |
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Post by LTFan on Nov 14, 2019 11:09:46 GMT
I don’t know if you’re being a little over sensitive. The vibe I’ve got from most on this forum is that Sheffield are, and will be, one of the stingiest teams this season. Having said that…. I do agree with the point made in this weeks podcast. I have a feeling that the Sheffield we’re seeing right now might be playing at almost full potential. Whereas I’m expecting to see improvements from the likes of Riders, Eagles, Lions as the season progresses. So I think Sheffield will start to lose their dominance as the competition rises. But as long as Sheffield can continue at this level they’ll still be in that competition at the top… and I’d expect to see them in a top 4 place at the end of the season, just perhaps not 1 or 2 as they currently would be. I don't think I could have put my thoughts any better than this. So consider the above duplicated!!!! Thanks. And I of course meant to say ‘strongest’ not ‘stingiest’!!! |
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Post by billybadknees on Nov 14, 2019 11:25:54 GMT
I don't think I could have put my thoughts any better than this. So consider the above duplicated!!!! Thanks. And I of course meant to say ‘strongest’ not ‘stingiest’!!! Nowt wrong with being stingy!  |
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Post by dyb dyb on Nov 14, 2019 14:57:09 GMT
I don't think I could have put my thoughts any better than this. So consider the above duplicated!!!! Thanks. And I of course meant to say ‘strongest’ not ‘stingiest’!!! Thanks, I think. For as long as I've been coming on here or at least for the last 4 or 5 years posters have been putting the Sharks chances down, including some shark fans. Who I have openly disagreed with , whether that be about the coach or where the sharks stand in the league. We got off to a good start this season but the same beraters belittled early wins because we ONLY beat Nix and Giants. Granted since then the sharks performances have turned a few heads, even the beraters have said sharks are looking good. Agreed, and I've said it already, I can see other teams making alterations and improving, even before the league has started as have Nix. I'm slightly worried that we've peaked too soon, for the league anyhow. As I said, we do have 2 vacancies on the bench where players have left already. If we can fill these and fill them wisely, those 2 players may just be a benefit in the months ahead. |
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Post by D44 on Nov 14, 2019 15:17:28 GMT
I actually think Sharks first 6 is as good as any in the league this year at the present time. I'm not underestimating them. On current form Nick Lewis and Mackey are as good a pair of guards as anyone and Koch is probably the best tradional center in the league. Squad lacks depth but that could be put right if budget there. It's good to see another team in the North doing well.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 14, 2019 15:27:52 GMT
I actually think Sharks first 6 is as good as any in the league this year at the present time. I'm not underestimating them. On current form Nick Lewis and Mackey are as good a pair of guards as anyone and Koch is probably the best tradional center in the league. Squad lacks depth but that could be put right if budget there. It's good to see another team in the North doing well. On form though. That's the point. Like LT says, this team are playing at close to max potential right now (that's no bad thing at all, but you cant say they're not playing out of their skins at the minute - Lewis especially).
Course if they bring in two more guys then they may sustain the level they're at or even get better, but it has to be better players than those who have left for me.
Koch (as good as he's been playing) isn't the best traditional Centre in the league though. By a distance. The Lav Twins get that accolade, probably followed by Richards. Then Leicester's new fella is tasty, as is John Mitchell and Darius.
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Post by dyb dyb on Nov 14, 2019 20:41:02 GMT
I actually think Sharks first 6 is as good as any in the league this year at the present time. I'm not underestimating them. On current form Nick Lewis and Mackey are as good a pair of guards as anyone and Koch is probably the best tradional center in the league. Squad lacks depth but that could be put right if budget there. It's good to see another team in the North doing well. On form though. That's the point. Like LT says, this team are playing at close to max potential right now (that's no bad thing at all, but you cant say they're not playing out of their skins at the minute - Lewis especially).
Course if they bring in two more guys then they may sustain the level they're at or even get better, but it has to be better players than those who have left for me.
Koch (as good as he's been playing) isn't the best traditional Centre in the league though. By a distance. The Lav Twins get that accolade, probably followed by Richards. Then Leicester's new fella is tasty, as is John Mitchell and Darius.
Only arguement I'd have with this is whether Lewis is playing out of his skin or not. He's always had the skills, he's added maturity and consistency. It's this consistency that is showing through and making him look stand out. Its whether he can maintain this consistency all the way to April/May. I'm sure the likes of Rob P will be working on weakness and ways of stopping him. (I give great credit to Rob to be the first to take Collins out of the game last season) Although this season we have McKnight playing his best and Cashew to throw into the mix. Double team one and you leave the other one open as the Eagles found out. |
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Post by fauxnicks on Nov 14, 2019 21:23:14 GMT
I actually think Sharks first 6 is as good as any in the league this year at the present time. I'm not underestimating them. On current form Nick Lewis and Mackey are as good a pair of guards as anyone and Koch is probably the best tradional center in the league. Squad lacks depth but that could be put right if budget there. It's good to see another team in the North doing well. On form though. That's the point. Like LT says, this team are playing at close to max potential right now (that's no bad thing at all, but you cant say they're not playing out of their skins at the minute - Lewis especially).
Course if they bring in two more guys then they may sustain the level they're at or even get better, but it has to be better players than those who have left for me.
Koch (as good as he's been playing) isn't the best traditional Centre in the league though. By a distance. The Lav Twins get that accolade, probably followed by Richards. Then Leicester's new fella is tasty, as is John Mitchell and Darius.
Not sure about Mitchell? Not withstanding the fact he’s an absolute tool seems to be inconsistent- what do Eagles fans think? |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 15, 2019 8:18:03 GMT
On form though. That's the point. Like LT says, this team are playing at close to max potential right now (that's no bad thing at all, but you cant say they're not playing out of their skins at the minute - Lewis especially).
Course if they bring in two more guys then they may sustain the level they're at or even get better, but it has to be better players than those who have left for me.
Koch (as good as he's been playing) isn't the best traditional Centre in the league though. By a distance. The Lav Twins get that accolade, probably followed by Richards. Then Leicester's new fella is tasty, as is John Mitchell and Darius.
Not sure about Mitchell? Not withstanding the fact he’s an absolute tool seems to be inconsistent- what do Eagles fans think? Don't know much about the fella's personality, but he's not inconsistent. I thought his aggression and general b*stardness was a breath of fresh air.
All a moot now anyway as he's been released!
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Post by fauxnicks on Nov 15, 2019 8:56:14 GMT
Not sure about Mitchell? Not withstanding the fact he’s an absolute tool seems to be inconsistent- what do Eagles fans think? Don't know much about the fella's personality, but he's not inconsistent. I thought his aggression and general b*stardness was a breath of fresh air.
All a moot now anyway as he's been released!
I’m basing a lot of my opinion on the game at Nix early in season. I was sat right behind Eagles bench and his behaviour seemed a little unusual to me - extremely hyped and randomly shouting! Noticed the coach having a chat with him on a few occasions to try and calm him. All for aggression (channelled in right way) - could do with a bit more at Nix sometimes. |
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