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Post by connors on Oct 13, 2020 7:46:29 GMT
I've got to say I feel for BE on this. As a small sport they are always going to be reactive as clearly the Government is not going to consult them in advance.
For those of us in areas deemed "High" or "Very High" then I wonder whether BE's current guidance that 3v3 adult indoor hoops can take place will hold?
From the Gov website - "exercise classes and organised sport can continue to take place outdoors. These will only be permitted indoors if it is possible for people to avoid mixing with people they do not live with or share a support bubble with, or for youth or disability sport."
Those of us involved in basketball at grass roots level have done everything we can to provide opportunities for players to play. Its hard work and no fun at times. The silver lining is always that the kids can keep playing at present but IF (still an IF) huge parts of country cannot provide any form of adult recreational basketball for a pro-longed period it will do damage to our sport.
Its these adults that are often the coaches, table officials, refs and organisers of the future. As Dave F says - they are part of a potential basketball economy much needed by clubs and the sport.
I await BE guidance with baited breath.....................
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 13, 2020 8:27:56 GMT
I've got to say I feel for BE on this. As a small sport they are always going to be reactive as clearly the Government is not going to consult them in advance. For those of us in areas deemed "High" or "Very High" then I wonder whether BE's current guidance that 3v3 adult indoor hoops can take place will hold? From the Gov website - "exercise classes and organised sport can continue to take place outdoors. These will only be permitted indoors if it is possible for people to avoid mixing with people they do not live with or share a support bubble with, or for youth or disability sport." Those of us involved in basketball at grass roots level have done everything we can to provide opportunities for players to play. Its hard work and no fun at times. The silver lining is always that the kids can keep playing at present but IF (still an IF) huge parts of country cannot provide any form of adult recreational basketball for a pro-longed period it will do damage to our sport. Its these adults that are often the coaches, table officials, refs and organisers of the future. As Dave F says - they are part of a potential basketball economy much needed by clubs and the sport. I await BE guidance with baited breath..................... We live near Loughborough Uni. There are a group of outdoor floodlit courts there. Most nights theres a good size group that just get together and play on those courts kind of USA style like you see on the films. Not just Uni students - younger kids as well from local schools. My son said some of the Charnwood Basketball players are involved as well. People will adapt and do what they can I've no doubt. We will all get through this somehow And the sports will survive We will just appreciate them more in the future I think (Its becoming pretty clear now that we've got the current problems to face for another 6 months at least)
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Post by hersey427 on Oct 13, 2020 10:25:45 GMT
connors. They've effectively atopped adultindoor sport in your area. Luckily boris has said they can go to the cinema or pub (until 10pm).
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Post by lexumcomp on Oct 13, 2020 11:05:19 GMT
I've got to say I feel for BE on this. As a small sport they are always going to be reactive as clearly the Government is not going to consult them in advance. For those of us in areas deemed "High" or "Very High" then I wonder whether BE's current guidance that 3v3 adult indoor hoops can take place will hold? From the Gov website - "exercise classes and organised sport can continue to take place outdoors. These will only be permitted indoors if it is possible for people to avoid mixing with people they do not live with or share a support bubble with, or for youth or disability sport." Those of us involved in basketball at grass roots level have done everything we can to provide opportunities for players to play. Its hard work and no fun at times. The silver lining is always that the kids can keep playing at present but IF (still an IF) huge parts of country cannot provide any form of adult recreational basketball for a pro-longed period it will do damage to our sport. Its these adults that are often the coaches, table officials, refs and organisers of the future. As Dave F says - they are part of a potential basketball economy much needed by clubs and the sport. I await BE guidance with baited breath..................... We live near Loughborough Uni. There are a group of outdoor floodlit courts there. Most nights theres a good size group that just get together and play on those courts kind of USA style like you see on the films. Not just Uni students - younger kids as well from local schools. My son said some of the Charnwood Basketball players are involved as well. People will adapt and do what they can I've no doubt. We will all get through this somehow And the sports will survive We will just appreciate them more in the future I think (Its becoming pretty clear now that we've got the current problems to face for another 6 months at least) Will you promise me you will go outside November- February twice a week and do some basketball training outside? This ridiculous notion that people can adapt by playing outside. We aren't in LA. Its dark at 430pm. Torrential rain. Wind. Ice. Not only is it not plausible, it's dangerous. I'm not talking about someone who wants to go and throw a ball at a hoop in a coat and Wellington boots for 10 minutes before going home. We are talking about people who need to train properly.
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Post by connors on Oct 13, 2020 14:39:04 GMT
Hersey - When most of the NE first had the additional restrictions placed on it we were expecting BE to pull the plug then but actually they confirmed that we were OK to carry on with rule of 6 basketball. So I am not giving up hope yet that as "organised" indoor sport with Covid mitigations in place BE will be able to confirm an exemption for us all.
Being honest it would actually make more sense if it was stopped! Obviously I just hope it won't be.
Lexum - totally agree that playing outdoors from hereon in is both impractical and dangerous for several reasons! Project Swish has done a good job of getting some nets put up around the country though!
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 13, 2020 14:49:58 GMT
We live near Loughborough Uni. There are a group of outdoor floodlit courts there. Most nights theres a good size group that just get together and play on those courts kind of USA style like you see on the films. Not just Uni students - younger kids as well from local schools. My son said some of the Charnwood Basketball players are involved as well. People will adapt and do what they can I've no doubt. We will all get through this somehow And the sports will survive We will just appreciate them more in the future I think (Its becoming pretty clear now that we've got the current problems to face for another 6 months at least) Will you promise me you will go outside November- February twice a week and do some basketball training outside? This ridiculous notion that people can adapt by playing outside. We aren't in LA. Its dark at 430pm. Torrential rain. Wind. Ice. Not only is it not plausible, it's dangerous. I'm not talking about someone who wants to go and throw a ball at a hoop in a coat and Wellington boots for 10 minutes before going home. We are talking about people who need to train properly. Non elite adults will either find a way to play or come back and play when they are allowed We should be grateful kids and teenagers are still allowed to play Worst situation (which may well still come our way) is they stop the kids playing So I'm being pragmatic IMO
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Post by dandayr on Oct 13, 2020 22:21:43 GMT
before the tighter restrictions came in to large parts of Scotland on Friday - it was only youth under age of 12 who could play contact indoors. age 12 upwards could be indoors but no contact and must be 2m spacing at all times.
So U14, U16, U18 and seniors could only do contact training and games outdoors - I have been lucky so far and in 6 weekends of sessions just one day was wiped out due to a flooded court. for light reasons, I am only doing weekends.
however with the tighter restrictions across the central part of Scotland, coast to coast, even the outdoor adult contact games and training is no longer allowed. plus two of the boys at my U18 session are not allowed to attend while the tighter restrictions are in place as they have had their 18th birthday
I have already noticed a couple of boys who never missed a session - they have now! Being outdoors is one factor, another factor is not got a target when can resume indoors and even resume some form of comp.
As long as I can and we need to, will run these outdoor sessions - its not just about keeping the youth active, its also about the mental health of me the coach.
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Post by samgray on Oct 13, 2020 22:29:34 GMT
before the tighter restrictions came in to large parts of Scotland on Friday - it was only youth under age of 12 who could play contact indoors. age 12 upwards could be indoors but no contact and must be 2m spacing at all times. So U14, U16, U18 and seniors could only do contact training and games outdoors - I have been lucky so far and in 6 weekends of sessions just one day was wiped out due to a flooded court. for light reasons, I am only doing weekends. however with the tighter restrictions across the central part of Scotland, coast to coast, even the outdoor adult contact games and training is no longer allowed. plus two of the boys at my U18 session are not allowed to attend while the tighter restrictions are in place as they have had their 18th birthday I have already noticed a couple of boys who never missed a session - they have now! Being outdoors is one factor, another factor is not got a target when can resume indoors and even resume some form of comp. As long as I can and we need to, will run these outdoor sessions - its not just about keeping the youth active, its also about the mental health of me the coach. Keep up the good work pal and make the most of the sessions you can do. The kids will appreciate them more than you will ever know
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Post by hersey427 on Oct 14, 2020 6:15:20 GMT
Yeah, keep going Dan.the outdoor (and even zoom) stuff we did during the long, long closr season was a real boost for the kids.
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Post by connors on Oct 16, 2020 12:56:11 GMT
So BE inevitably confirmed that those of us in Tier 2/3 regions can no longer play basketball indoors. Crap news to be honest. Only shining light is the kids can carry on. I guess if you subscribe to the belief that any of these measures are making a difference then it makes sense to stop this kind of interaction. I no longer know what I believe in that regard!! Anyway to those on this site that play keep the faith - we will be back!
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