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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 10:43:38 GMT
Why are the bbl s shambles?
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Post by foxprorawks on Nov 1, 2020 10:51:02 GMT
Because if they had any sense, they would have abandoned this season long ago and made plans for restarting next season.
How many games do you suppose will actually be played this season, including all competitions?
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Post by casualhook on Nov 1, 2020 11:32:49 GMT
Because if they had any sense, they would have abandoned this season long ago and made plans for restarting next season. How many games do you suppose will actually be played this season, including all competitions? Clubs can’t just shut down for a year, they’ve all got bills to pay, there’s potentially a TV deal in the works, players have contracts, there’s so many reasons you can’t just cancel the season and try again in x amount of months |
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Post by foxprorawks on Nov 1, 2020 11:48:03 GMT
Because if they had any sense, they would have abandoned this season long ago and made plans for restarting next season. How many games do you suppose will actually be played this season, including all competitions? Clubs can’t just shut down for a year, they’ve all got bills to pay, there’s potentially a TV deal in the works, players have contracts, there’s so many reasons you can’t just cancel the season and try again in x amount of months Lots of games are likely to be cancelled - how do you think the items you list will be affected when that happens. Or is your opinion that most games will still go ahead? The London Marathon had far bigger contracts, charity money, TV deals etc. involved. It was cancelled and won't be run again until October 2021. Part of the issue is that a lot of clubs are in dire straits even in a normal season. They are practically bust. I doubt that persevering with this season will save them. |
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Post by davef on Nov 1, 2020 13:07:41 GMT
So basically you think that the players and the staff of the clubs should
Just be laid off without even trying to allow them to maintain their livelihoods?
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Post by foxprorawks on Nov 1, 2020 13:25:29 GMT
So basically you think that the players and the staff of the clubs should Just be laid off without even trying to allow them to maintain their livelihoods? I wish it wasn't the case, but I think that will be the end result anyway. I'm not convinced that the promised government funding will ever materialise, especially if the government are asking to see the accounts. It sounds like Glasgow Rocks are depending on that funding, and I'd guess other clubs are in the same position. There may well be more travel restrictions put in place - the Scottish government is already advising against travel in either direction over the Scotland/England border "unless absolutely essential". I don't think it's clear if that restriction would apply to professional sports, but why wouldn't it? But, you know what, I'll be happy if I'm totally wrong and the two cup games already cancelled are no indication of what will happen. I just despair at the whole situation, not just with professional sports, but with national league. Our senior players in Scotland can't train or play at all. The younger players can train outside, but the darker and colder nights are making that very difficult. The BBL have decided to give it a go. I hope that's the right choice, but I'm very doubtful. |
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Post by dandayr on Nov 2, 2020 12:26:05 GMT
So basically you think that the players and the staff of the clubs should Just be laid off without even trying to allow them to maintain their livelihoods? I wish it wasn't the case, but I think that will be the end result anyway. I'm not convinced that the promised government funding will ever materialise, especially if the government are asking to see the accounts. It sounds like Glasgow Rocks are depending on that funding, and I'd guess other clubs are in the same position. There may well be more travel restrictions put in place - the Scottish government is already advising against travel in either direction over the Scotland/England border "unless absolutely essential". I don't think it's clear if that restriction would apply to professional sports, but why wouldn't it? But, you know what, I'll be happy if I'm totally wrong and the two cup games already cancelled are no indication of what will happen. I just despair at the whole situation, not just with professional sports, but with national league. Our senior players in Scotland can't train or play at all. The younger players can train outside, but the darker and colder nights are making that very difficult. The BBL have decided to give it a go. I hope that's the right choice, but I'm very doubtful. Professional sport has travel exemptions - hence why the Scottish Football team, plus the two club sides Celtic and Rangers still in Europa lge are able and will travel to countries that are off limits to the rest of us in the Scottish general public and if we did go to we need to quarantine on return (if you need to go to England, no quarantine on return need at the moment) but the elite level sports people if travelling for official sport do not need to quarantine on return (personal trip was another matter!) Agree it seems strange the games lost to +ve tests went straight to 20-0 results, unlike the SPFL games that have been rescheduled - but the clubs are the BBL so that is the cup solution they wish. The big surprise would be if the lge was the same approach. For the non elite senior players in Scotland - I don't think we are that different from England, its just what each country calls the different levels where seniors are stopped from activity. Based on the protection levels starting today - yep adult sport (local and national league just wont be happening away from elite levels as got to be at Level 0 before contact sport is allowed. For U18 though in Scotland the ne level guidelines are good as now able to do full contact normal basketball indoors or outdoors from L0 all the way up to L3 - its not the guidance and the Protection levels that mean darker and colder nights are making it harder for us all. It is the Leisure Trusts not feeling able to reopen all their halls and till now very few local authorities allowing evening and weekend use of school indoor facilities. As long as the DCMS comes through with their promises that gave the BBL confidence to start - then it is great that it is not just football and rugby that are active behind closed doors in these dark days. |
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Post by foxprorawks on Nov 2, 2020 17:01:38 GMT
The new rules from today for U18 in Scotland will certainly help - providing, as you say, you can get a hall to train in.
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Post by allstring on Nov 3, 2020 0:04:14 GMT
"Leisure centres and gyms will close, as will other indoor and outdoor leisure facilities.
On Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the House of Commons that there would be no exemptions."
What does this mean for the BBL? Does Elite Sport trump venue closures? If not then the BBL has been hung out to dry unable to play and no DCMS money.
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Post by youngrocks on Nov 3, 2020 7:08:10 GMT
Dcms seem to be a mess. Every sport has faced delays in getting financial support.
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Post by gloryeagle on Nov 3, 2020 8:46:08 GMT
Dcms seem to be a mess. Every sport has faced delays in getting financial support. I think we're probably all guilty of underestimating just how many individual claims for financial support they will have received. Each one will clearly require careful consideration and not just public cash handed out on a whim. As far as we know at least, there wasn't a timescale placed on the funding. If there was then it's frustrating but nonetheless, understandable. I think it was Mark Woods who posted an article calling the decision to start last weekend a gamble. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 10:46:21 GMT
They moved pretty damned quick for the 5th and 6th tier of football
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Post by fauxnicks on Nov 3, 2020 13:09:32 GMT
Dcms seem to be a mess. Every sport has faced delays in getting financial support. I think we're probably all guilty of underestimating just how many individual claims for financial support they will have received. Each one will clearly require careful consideration and not just public cash handed out on a whim. As far as we know at least, there wasn't a timescale placed on the funding. If there was then it's frustrating but nonetheless, understandable. I think it was Mark Woods who posted an article calling the decision to start last weekend a gamble. Unlike the public cash that is being handed out to fraudulent businesses and individuals! |
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Post by dandayr on Nov 3, 2020 15:46:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 16:03:38 GMT
Yeah, i knew that. But it's still the same principle
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 10, 2020 11:52:01 GMT
I assumed the groups are supposed to be West, Northwest and Northeast, with Southeast not getting a group because there's only two of them. But I like the British Rail regions theory better.
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Post by faz on Nov 10, 2020 12:00:39 GMT
I think the groups were designed to help Manchester basketball rise from the flames!
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Post by faz on Nov 10, 2020 12:09:30 GMT
So basically you think that the players and the staff of the clubs should Just be laid off without even trying to allow them to maintain their livelihoods? Do we know how much the gov is putting into the league? How much would it have cost to furlough all employees ? I’d also suggest support given to Eagles and Riders re their venues. I guess time will tell whether it was the correct decision to continue. What I do know however is I want my son and his mates to play this year and I can’t see any scientific reason why BBL and NBL 1 can play but none else. I suspect Boris can’t either! |
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Post by faz on Nov 10, 2020 12:09:59 GMT
So basically you think that the players and the staff of the clubs should Just be laid off without even trying to allow them to maintain their livelihoods? Do we know how much the gov is putting into the league? How much would it have cost to furlough all employees ? I’d also suggest support given to Eagles and Riders re their venues. I guess time will tell whether it was the correct decision to continue. What I do know however is I want my son and his mates to play this year and I can’t see any scientific reason why BBL and NBL 1 can play but nobody else. I suspect Boris can’t either! |
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