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Post by ko25 on Feb 22, 2021 9:22:15 GMT
From the sounds of it Chris Finch may well be the Head Coach of the Timberwolves.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 10:44:37 GMT
Pleased for him. 2 ex-BBL guys as NBA coaches and one assistant certainly looks good for the league.
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Post by allstring on Feb 22, 2021 11:42:56 GMT
Pleased for him. 2 ex-BBL guys as NBA coaches and one assistant certainly looks good for the league. And all three being former players further strengthens the case. Any player who may have thoughts of coaching (Nurse obviously did at a young age) can see that the BBL is not a negative on those aspirations but is a proven route to the highest level (not suggesting it is a career path to the NBA, but these guys, the likes of Donewald in past mean nobody - with any sense - will ever throw an application straight into the bin simply because the majority of the applicants career is in the BBL). There is the added bonus that the BBL is not the strongest of leagues. It's a good league (far better than often portrayed). So you don't have to be the highest level player or coach to get an opportunity. Finch and Fab are great examples. Not sure either would have had many opportunities in Europe coming out of college. But both played above their natural talent (probably the coaching gene!) and unsurprisingly moved into coaching. Not sure they would have been given that opportunity in many places in Europe. And Nurse of course got his coaching opportunity very young in the BBL. |
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Post by baldereagle on Feb 22, 2021 13:00:25 GMT
There must be a funky headline for this, but congratulations to Chris Finch, the latest BBL coach export to the NBA at the Timberwolves.
Could Fab be the next one ?
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Post by blueskies99 on Feb 22, 2021 13:50:43 GMT
Pleased for him. 2 ex-BBL guys as NBA coaches and one assistant certainly looks good for the league. And all three being former players further strengthens the case. Any player who may have thoughts of coaching (Nurse obviously did at a young age) can see that the BBL is not a negative on those aspirations but is a proven route to the highest level (not suggesting it is a career path to the NBA, but these guys, the likes of Donewald in past mean nobody - with any sense - will ever throw an application straight into the bin simply because the majority of the applicants career is in the BBL). There is the added bonus that the BBL is not the strongest of leagues. It's a good league (far better than often portrayed). So you don't have to be the highest level player or coach to get an opportunity. Finch and Fab are great examples. Not sure either would have had many opportunities in Europe coming out of college. But both played above their natural talent (probably the coaching gene!) and unsurprisingly moved into coaching. Not sure they would have been given that opportunity in many places in Europe. And Nurse of course got his coaching opportunity very young in the BBL. Does anyone know if there are any NBA coaches who plied their trade in Europe prior to moving to the NBA or is this a unique situation for the BBL? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 13:53:21 GMT
Getting two NBA jobs in 1 day is a massive achievement:)
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Post by strandedona303 on Feb 22, 2021 13:59:42 GMT
Mike D'Antoni.
David Blatt did. George Karl coached Real Madrid.
Does anyone else think there is a bias against non-American coaches? Both Ettore Messina and Sergio Scariolo have European / World basketball CV's far better than Nurse and Finch yet neither of them have got a sniff of a head coaching role.
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Post by raiders92 on Feb 22, 2021 14:57:24 GMT
Mike D'Antoni. David Blatt did. George Karl coached Real Madrid. Does anyone else think there is a bias against non-American coaches? Both Ettore Messina and Sergio Scariolo have European / World basketball CV's far better than Nurse and Finch yet neither of them have got a sniff of a head coaching role. I'd argue that the league has a biased against non Americans not just coaches!! Europeans still have that reputation Look at luka doncic he was a home run no one pick but because he hadn't done it in the ncaa he wasn't a concensus no one pick!! An 18 year old mvp of the second best league in the world should be consensus no one pick! As for the bbl in general yes it's not a quality European league but we have so much to offer uni opportunities the English language, guaranteed money (in most cases) that other places can't offer |
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Post by davef on Feb 22, 2021 15:27:22 GMT
Messina was interviewed by raptors before they took nurse.
Reality is that coaching in Europe is very different to coaching in the NBA, primarily due to the amount of power the players have.
Kokoskov only lasted 1 year in Phoenix.
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Post by mac on Feb 22, 2021 21:22:17 GMT
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Post by retsek on Feb 23, 2021 8:29:41 GMT
Long overdue, hopefully the team performs well and he keeps the job!
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Post by strandedona303 on Feb 23, 2021 10:19:32 GMT
Messina was interviewed by raptors before they took nurse. Reality is that coaching in Europe is very different to coaching in the NBA, primarily due to the amount of power the players have. Kokoskov only lasted 1 year in Phoenix. Kokoškov had come through the US system though. He had a bad team and then they didn't draft Doncic even though Kokoškov had coached him at national team level! Messina had done the 5 previous years in the NBA as an assistant to add to his 4 Euroleague titles. His pedigree is far greater than Nurse of Finch! Zeljko Obradovic is an example of a successful European coach whose style may not have fitted with American players. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 11:29:10 GMT
That says one of 3 things
1. He's an idiot (unlikely)
2. He didn't get on with Luca (possible, but would you risk your job on it?)
3. He was ignored by his front office.
My money's on the third. And I'm very grateful.
Clearly it's virtually impossible for someone who isn't American or hasn't worked their way up the NBA system to get a coaching job. David Blatt seemed to be looked down upon because he'd built his CV overseas. It must hurt a bit that many of the best players in the NBA aren't American and guys like Luca and Giannis haven't even come through the NCAA, so keeping the HC jobs American is a little victory. It's not an entirely different situation to people moaning that there aren't enough Brits in the BBL.
Nurse has lost two top assistants to head coach jobs and the next gut in line is highly rated. I guess Fab is steadily moving up the pecking order.
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Post by connors on Feb 23, 2021 19:44:12 GMT
Reading Nurses book Rapture has been very interesting. I think what it highlighted (and perhaps T Wolves agreed with) is that head coach experience at pro level, regardless of the level is very valuable. You make the decisions and stand or fall on your results. You have to work with players with different motivations and get the best from them whilst making it work for the club. I think Nurse and Finch have proved that experience allied to D/G league experience and time spent as assistant is a very good grounding for NBA top job.......and being a yank of course 😉
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