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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 18:06:32 GMT
That’s the Rocks season very dead in the water now.
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Post by bullets92 on Mar 28, 2021 18:09:45 GMT
Presume they’ve wrote off the playoffs, which we all thought they had before they came in anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 18:13:40 GMT
Presume they’ve wrote off the playoffs, which we all thought they had before they came in anyway. Seems like we don’t want to afford to pay for our two best players. Big Dunc must be back to cutting costs. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 18:15:10 GMT
Really doesn't sit right me at all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 18:19:04 GMT
Really doesn't sit right me at all It’s either the franchise cutting costs to finish last place or cutting costs because they are close to going out of business. Knowing the way Duncan does business I’m sure he wants to spend as little as possible to finish in last place. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 18:27:37 GMT
Its cost cutting sure but its 1 more pay check and I highly doubt they were big pay checks. Hds probably saved 3-4k max
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Post by lochrocks on Mar 28, 2021 18:41:25 GMT
We take out a monthly BBL subscription mainly to watch the Rocks Home and Away.
I believe that money went direct to the Rocks we have now cancelled that for the rest of the season. It is a small amount of money but we are not even close to be being competitive without Delph and Keeling.
Apparently it is mentioned in today's newspapers not sure which one, Gareth has been told he will have a better budget for next season.
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Post by youngrocks on Mar 28, 2021 18:55:27 GMT
Hes got given 300k near enough from scot gov. As mr t says doesnt sit right with me but dont know the full details
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Post by jdanielsglasgow on Mar 28, 2021 19:07:57 GMT
Hes got given 300k near enough from scot gov. As mr t says doesnt sit right with me but dont know the full details They did receive 300k but surely that has went solely on the survival of the club? I can only wonder how much the organisation are losing without the fans being in the arena. My guess is that 300k covers just that to allow them to survive. I may be wrong though. |
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Post by ko25 on Mar 28, 2021 19:14:17 GMT
Hes got given 300k near enough from scot gov. As mr t says doesnt sit right with me but dont know the full details They did receive 300k but surely that has went solely on the survival of the club? I can only wonder how much the organisation are losing without the fans being in the arena. My guess is that 300k covers just that to allow them to survive. I may be wrong though. You'd have to assume a lot of that would be spent on the cost of the court? |
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Post by dandayr on Mar 28, 2021 19:14:40 GMT
when saw the tweet come through - initial reaction was shocking to not fulfil these two guys to the end of the season, especially given the large grant provided by scotgov to replace lack of crowds.
On other hand, if the 2 have been provided an opportunity somewhere else that will help them for their future prospects then could understand it as they cant help rocks save this season. playoff chances long gone.
Huge downside of all this - the Rocks are involved in the 2nd game of this Friday's skysports easter friday BBL double header.
Having just issued a 2021/22 sponsorship opportunities brochure, you would have thought with a live tv game coming up Rocks would want to look as good as could and tell potential sponsors to watch on Friday. Comes accross as a lack of joined up thinking here by the organisation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 19:26:08 GMT
Couldn't they have just offered them 80percent of their wage?
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Post by jdanielsglasgow on Mar 28, 2021 19:29:23 GMT
Renting out the Emirates Arena for training and games every week cannot be cheap. On top of that, they'll have multiple other expenses such as travel which no doubt they will be the top spenders in the league in this category. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the club is financially stable and make it through the rest of this year.
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Post by borthwick on Mar 28, 2021 19:36:13 GMT
It dos make the league look a bit stupid.
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Post by jdanielsglasgow on Mar 28, 2021 20:03:37 GMT
Speculation has it, their 3 month visa is due to expire. They must have Decided against applying for new one which is disappointing if true.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 20:15:03 GMT
Speculation has it, their 3 month visa is due to expire. They must have Decided against applying for new one which is disappointing if true. Never heard of any players doing that before. Seems very suspicious. |
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Post by rideralex on Mar 28, 2021 20:34:22 GMT
Speculation has it, their 3 month visa is due to expire. They must have Decided against applying for new one which is disappointing if true. Never heard of any players doing that before. Seems very suspicious. If that is true and they'd explained it properly that it would actually have been more understandable but it doesn't seem to be as they have both been in the country since before Xmas which was well over 90 days ago. I don't think it's particularly unusual for teams to initially bring players in on short-term visas as these can be processed much more quickly but it requires the player to leave the country when transferring to the longer term visa. In normal times players will take a short haul return flight to where ever is cheapest (usually out and back on the same day) but the current situation around international travel and quarantine requirements would make the process a massive headache and given there isn't (or at least wasn't) an exception for quarantine for professional athletes in Scotland and the current requirement for quarantine hotels it would work out extremely expensive for the Rocks and still see the players miss a number of games. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 20:49:33 GMT
Never heard of any players doing that before. Seems very suspicious. If that is true and they'd explained it properly that it would actually have been more understandable but it doesn't seem to be as they have both been in the country since before Xmas which was well over 90 days ago. I don't think it's particularly unusual for teams to initially bring players in on short-term visas as these can be processed much more quickly but it requires the player to leave the country when transferring to the longer term visa. In normal times players will take a short haul return flight to where ever is cheapest (usually out and back on the same day) but the current situation around international travel and quarantine requirements would make the process a massive headache and given there isn't (or at least wasn't) an exception for quarantine for professional athletes in Scotland and the current requirement for quarantine hotels it would work out extremely expensive for the Rocks and still see the players miss a number of games. The Rocks statement about the players is just the typical Rocks half arsed, quickly thrown together bit of junk that we’ve come to expect since Duncan took over. They way it reads it’s like the players were contracted to leave if we lost against Surrey and did so with player and team quite happy for them to do so. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Mar 28, 2021 23:11:00 GMT
Really doesn't sit right me at all It’s either the franchise cutting costs to finish last place or cutting costs because they are close to going out of business. Knowing the way Duncan does business I’m sure he wants to spend as little as possible to finish in last place. That's the championship blown then. Can't defend last season's title... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 11:15:04 GMT
Speculation has it, their 3 month visa is due to expire. They must have Decided against applying for new one which is disappointing if true. Never heard of any players doing that before. Seems very suspicious. Plenty of clubs do it. It gets a player in quicker and gives a way out out if they don't make the grade. It doesn't really work this season because of Covid unless it's for a February signing who won't need to stay any longer than three months. It's not very professional - cutting players because you're unlikely to make the play-offs. Unless it really is mutual it's likely to be breach of contract, as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 18:30:50 GMT
Never heard of any players doing that before. Seems very suspicious. Plenty of clubs do it. It gets a player in quicker and gives a way out out if they don't make the grade. It doesn't really work this season because of Covid unless it's for a February signing who won't need to stay any longer than three months. It's not very professional - cutting players because you're unlikely to make the play-offs. Unless it really is mutual it's likely to be breach of contract, as well. I've seen plenty players get cut for not being good enough but its the first time, with the Rocks at least, that I've seen players get cut for presumably being too expensive. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Mar 29, 2021 19:30:42 GMT
Plenty of clubs do it. It gets a player in quicker and gives a way out out if they don't make the grade. It doesn't really work this season because of Covid unless it's for a February signing who won't need to stay any longer than three months. It's not very professional - cutting players because you're unlikely to make the play-offs. Unless it really is mutual it's likely to be breach of contract, as well. I've seen plenty players get cut for not being good enough but its the first time, with the Rocks at least, that I've seen players get cut for presumably being too expensive. May be wrong but I think something similar happened with Leeds under Newby because the owners ran out of dosh. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 20:29:13 GMT
I've seen plenty players get cut for not being good enough but its the first time, with the Rocks at least, that I've seen players get cut for presumably being too expensive. May be wrong but I think something similar happened with Leeds under Newby because the owners ran out of dosh. Probably. I don’t think Big Duncan Disorderly is skint. He’s just the kind of guy that would be in a lift with his gran and fart then charge her a tenner for the honour of smelling it. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Mar 29, 2021 22:32:12 GMT
Does seem like it's a money thing. Hope that others see this one owner rather than a league wide occurrence. However wouldn't be surprised to both of them turn up again in the BBL, they've both done enough to interest other clubs next season, that's if they trust the BB L again.
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Post by youngrocks on Mar 30, 2021 7:02:10 GMT
Suppose the vagueness of the statement alloes for alot of speculation. Seen finances, players chosing to leave and visa issues now given as the reason. It could be a combination of all 3? I am led to believe that both players have had their contract paid in full. Take from that what you want.
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