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Post by blackdiamond on Apr 21, 2021 16:50:29 GMT
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Post by raiders92 on Apr 21, 2021 19:44:10 GMT
I've got no idea about suitable venues, but what about Exeter ? It's still in Devon and being at the wrong end of the M5 hasn't stopped their rugby team performing ! Exeter has a suitable venue but it's 45 miles away and it would be too expensive!! Exeter is still almost an hour on a bad day so not many fans could travel! |
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Post by raiders92 on Apr 21, 2021 19:45:47 GMT
Surely the best bet is as said above. Build their own using the Leicester or Newcastle framework (or best of both). But those things take time and a lot of planning so need to get on it sharpish [br Tbh the amount of empty warehouses that could be re purposed we have wouldn't be an issue!! There's many in Plympton!! |
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Post by raider001 on Apr 21, 2021 20:12:11 GMT
Surely the best bet is as said above. Build their own using the Leicester or Newcastle framework (or best of both). But those things take time and a lot of planning so need to get on it sharpish [br Tbh the amount of empty warehouses that could be re purposed we have wouldn't be an issue!! There's many in Plympton!! I thought that too. The city has plenty of empty buildings/units that could be repurposed into a dedicated basketball facility. |
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Post by Raidersfan on Apr 21, 2021 21:16:59 GMT
I think this is the saddest news!!! How in a pandemic can the pavilions possibly charge 200% more? Based on what improvements to the building or services? And how is a small pavilions in Plymouth possibly getting another regular booking like the raiders? Surely they lose out on the raiders not being there? I would openly not support the Birmingham Raiders
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Apr 22, 2021 7:55:39 GMT
I imagine it is hampering their plans for renovation tbh. Without a catalog of events using the venue they can demonstrate it is not fit for purpose and close/demolish and rebuild. I am no expert lol but assume that is how things work?
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Post by LTFan on Apr 22, 2021 8:52:50 GMT
Again it's said " The Pavilions are asking us to pay more than the next highest rent in the BBL". Presumably that's the Copper Box arena? So if The Pavilions are asking for more money than an Olympic standard arena in London's Olympic Park then I can understand the Raiders thinking the money being asked for is ridiculous. |
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Post by LTFan on Apr 22, 2021 8:53:44 GMT
Surely the best bet is as said above. Build their own using the Leicester or Newcastle framework (or best of both). But those things take time and a lot of planning so need to get on it sharpish Tbh the amount of empty warehouses that could be re purposed we have wouldn't be an issue!! There's many in Plympton!! And if they ask nicely I'm sure Vince can provide the blueprints for that.  |
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Apr 22, 2021 13:01:44 GMT
Maybe they wont be the Brummy Raiders
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Apr 22, 2021 14:16:03 GMT
Maybe they wont be the Brummy Raiders I can probably get 20% off a top of the range Porche but I still can't afford one. |
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Apr 23, 2021 7:11:07 GMT
Maybe they wont be the Brummy Raiders I can probably get 20% off a top of the range Porche but I still can't afford one. Thats a very good point... this 200% increase that has been quoted is completely relative. I assume that the rent has been heavily subsidised due to COVID in which case a 200% increase may just take it back to pre COVID levels? If not, then it is not worth the asking price but there is no alternative. The Pavilions wouldn't be suitable for euro comps anyway because of the requirements so I am skeptical as hell. |
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Post by bagger on Apr 25, 2021 16:48:46 GMT
Really sad, but not surprised. Foreign owners and money talks.If it Happens is there enough interest and money to start up again in Plymouth?
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Post by raiders92 on Apr 25, 2021 18:30:50 GMT
Really sad, but not surprised. Foreign owners and money talks.If it Happens is there enough interest and money to start up again in Plymouth? Easily enough!! Raiders are are at the heart of the city |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 18:58:55 GMT
It's a short route to NBL D1. A Plymouth team could be in NBL D1 after 2 seasons.
What I don't understand is, why Birmingham? Is there a suitable venue in Birmingham?
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Post by Raidersfan on Apr 25, 2021 19:22:18 GMT
I understand the new basketballvenue in Birmingham must be inviting, but surely the BBL should be pushing for a new franchise to go through the leagues, gain real revenue and fans (unlike the royals) and then take the new stadium as there’s. Ripping out a franchise with arguably the best most loyal fanbase, uprooting and starting with zero fans seems to look like a terrible idea.
I get our owners want European basketball, and Plymouth isn’t as go to as other cities, but moving is just crap
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 19:39:05 GMT
It's a short route to NBL D1. A Plymouth team could be in NBL D1 after 2 seasons. What I don't understand is, why Birmingham? Is there a suitable venue in Birmingham? Chesterdonelly do you need help recovering your old account rather than starting a fresh? |
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Post by bagger on Apr 25, 2021 19:44:13 GMT
What are your thoughts Mr T
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Post by bullets92 on Apr 25, 2021 19:45:18 GMT
It's a short route to NBL D1. A Plymouth team could be in NBL D1 after 2 seasons. What I don't understand is, why Birmingham? Is there a suitable venue in Birmingham? Why? Because of the history and the massive basketball culture here. Huge multi-ethnic community. Commonwealth games coming up. Some of the top academies. No successful franchise here for almost 20 years now. Venue? No. And that’s the hurdle. Two 15,000 seaters that are ridiculously expensive (can’t remember exactly what we were quoted on rent....but it was extortionate). And a handful of Leisure centres that are a mixture of poorly located, lack the capacity or have been tried and tested and failed before. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 19:56:22 GMT
What are your thoughts Mr T I'm not commentating on it mate |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 22:22:56 GMT
It's a short route to NBL D1. A Plymouth team could be in NBL D1 after 2 seasons. What I don't understand is, why Birmingham? Is there a suitable venue in Birmingham? Chesterdonelly do you need help recovering your old account rather than starting a fresh? Lol |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Apr 26, 2021 7:31:26 GMT
I feel for Raiders fans. They have a really good team with their highest finish in the league for ages and could still win the playoffs - oh, but you may not have a team to watch except via the media next season. What a kick in the teeth. Getting wealthy backers isn't always plain sailing.
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Post by raiders92 on Apr 26, 2021 19:41:23 GMT
Surely though it Birmingham was viable the bullets wouldn't have failed nor would have the knights?
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Post by LTFan on Apr 27, 2021 8:46:26 GMT
Surely though it Birmingham was viable the bullets wouldn't have failed nor would have the knights? It's probably less about where and more about who... London City Royals were a disaster. But Lions, Towers, Leopards etc. all have had success in the same city. And from what I remember, Birmingham Bullets had a good run in the city for 20+ years, it just all came apart at the end. I wouldn't say they were a failure. |
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Post by bullets92 on Apr 27, 2021 16:13:39 GMT
Surely though it Birmingham was viable the bullets wouldn't have failed nor would have the knights? One word. Owners. |
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Post by ko25 on Apr 27, 2021 20:01:36 GMT
Surely though it Birmingham was viable the bullets wouldn't have failed nor would have the knights? One word. Owners. I believe it was Craig Bowen who also helped the demise of the original Giants. |
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