nobody81
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Post by nobody81 on Sept 8, 2021 19:26:34 GMT
Who has Paul treated poorly? Everyone I know around the club has nothing but nice things to say about him I guess we chat to different people within the club |
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greensoldier
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Post by greensoldier on Sept 8, 2021 20:02:58 GMT
Who has Paul treated poorly? Everyone I know around the club has nothing but nice things to say about him I guess we chat to different people within the club This post alone says you don’t talk to anyone around the club! |
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nobody81
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Post by nobody81 on Sept 8, 2021 20:25:31 GMT
I guess we chat to different people within the club This post alone says you don’t talk to anyone around the club! Ok |
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Post by Raidersfan on Sept 8, 2021 20:56:54 GMT
I can 100% say I miss the raiders. I even now view their posts on an Instagram page that is no redundant hoping it’s coming back. Am I a patriots fan, no…. Do I follow their social yes, was even speaking to ubiaro the other day, nice guy. Am I going to drive from Dorset to Plymouth, you bet… I love basketball, and the city. As for where does my heart lie, I’m not sure…. Think I’ll cheer on Plymouth rather than the pats
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Post by basketballjoe3 on Sept 9, 2021 7:18:09 GMT
I can 100% say I miss the raiders. I even now view their posts on an Instagram page that is no redundant hoping it’s coming back. Am I a patriots fan, no…. Do I follow their social yes, was even speaking to ubiaro the other day, nice guy. Am I going to drive from Dorset to Plymouth, you bet… I love basketball, and the city. As for where does my heart lie, I’m not sure…. Think I’ll cheer on Plymouth rather than the pats This is a concept that I struggle with. If Carl had been able to purchase the Raiders IP, it appears he would have. Seems he may have been priced out of the market. With that in mind, had he have been able to get it transferred for what he considered a reasonable cost, the Pats would indeed still be Raiders. This to me really feels like semantics. Albeit we've had to mourn the loss of a name and a logo. My challenge to everyone that was/is a 'Raiders' fan is this: think of all the times you have followed your team through thick and thin, the highs, the lows, the wins, the losses. It was the people, the players, the people you went to games with and those you sat with, indeed it is the Plymouth basketball community that made it what it was and still make it what it is. This has survived. Just. And frankly it's due to a guy who's taken a chance and had to go down a different route due to factors beyond his control. FFS our (your) Plymouth basketball community needs your support more than ever right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 14:58:19 GMT
There was absolutely no rush to establish a totally new club, but they did it anyway. That will come back to bite them. As much as fans may want their basketball, there is no recognition that the Raiders was a fixture for what 40 years?? Like all things BBL, that cannot be whitewashed. And it will show in the financial results. The right thing to do was for the BBL to takeover and operate the club for the season with Carl as operating partner before handing over the reigns of ownership. Also the fact that they couldn’t strike a deal to keep the Raiders name, history and IP is telling. And it signals weakness. Certainly won’t help the league to convince sponsors or investors that it’s worth their time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 14:59:32 GMT
There was absolutely no rush to establish a totally new club, but they did it anyway. That will come back to bite them. As much as fans may want their basketball, there is no recognition that the Raiders was a fixture for what 40 years?? Like all things BBL, that cannot be whitewashed. And it will show in the financial results. The right thing to do was for the BBL to takeover the and operate the club with Carl as partner before handing over the reigns. Also the fact that they couldn’t strike a deal to keep the Raiders name, history and IP is telling. And it signals weakness. Certainly won’t help the league to convince sponsors or investors that it’s worth their time. You mean exactly like they're doing? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 15:01:50 GMT
There was absolutely no rush to establish a totally new club, but they did it anyway. That will come back to bite them. As much as fans may want their basketball, there is no recognition that the Raiders was a fixture for what 40 years?? Like all things BBL, that cannot be whitewashed. And it will show in the financial results. The right thing to do was for the BBL to takeover the and operate the club with Carl as partner before handing over the reigns. Also the fact that they couldn’t strike a deal to keep the Raiders name, history and IP is telling. And it signals weakness. Certainly won’t help the league to convince sponsors or investors that it’s worth their time. You mean exactly like they're doing? The messaging is that there is a new owner, not the BBL taking control of a key asset and allowing some time for integration. So that’s different |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 9, 2021 15:41:58 GMT
Oh christ here we go.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 16:04:47 GMT
Bbl are 75% control at the moment to help the club run successfully. The bbl are doing a great job to ensure the survival of the patriots
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 16:38:07 GMT
i gueas the medication wore off. i wonder if the cheque is in the post |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 9, 2021 16:42:52 GMT
i gueas the medication wore off. i wonder if the cheque is in the post Youll be taking that same medication if you have any hope of that mate haha |
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Post by erd87 on Sept 9, 2021 17:40:45 GMT
There was absolutely no rush to establish a totally new club, but they did it anyway. That will come back to bite them. As much as fans may want their basketball, there is no recognition that the Raiders was a fixture for what 40 years?? Like all things BBL, that cannot be whitewashed. And it will show in the financial results. I would say there absolutely was a rush to bring basketball back in Plymouth this summer. There has already been 18 months with no basketball. People can very quickly find something else to do with their Friday nights/Sunday mornings, so trying to keep things going was absolutely the correct approach in my opinion. Even if things don't go smoothly at first. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 17:55:22 GMT
you're wasting your breath, mate. he brings zero years of zero knowledge of British basketball. we should respect that
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Post by solentkestrelsfan75 on Sept 9, 2021 18:02:56 GMT
There was absolutely no rush to establish a totally new club, but they did it anyway. That will come back to bite them. As much as fans may want their basketball, there is no recognition that the Raiders was a fixture for what 40 years?? Like all things BBL, that cannot be whitewashed. And it will show in the financial results. I would say there absolutely was a rush to bring basketball back in Plymouth this summer. There has already been 18 months with no basketball. People can very quickly find something else to do with their Friday nights/Sunday mornings, so trying to keep things going was absolutely the correct approach in my opinion. Even if things don't go smoothly at first. Totally agree. have seen it first hand with Stars/ Kestrels. Despite great success on court the following is nowhere near the former team... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 18:10:35 GMT
you're wasting your breath, mate. he brings zero years of zero knowledge of British basketball. we should respect that Common sense and I don’t drink kool aid. Nothing to do with anything else. Also I do remember how many here were praising the Turkish guy for saving basketball in Plymouth before. Now you crap on him. Hmmm. |
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Post by PointlessMonkey on Sept 9, 2021 18:29:20 GMT
There was absolutely no rush to establish a totally new club, but they did it anyway. That will come back to bite them. As much as fans may want their basketball, there is no recognition that the Raiders was a fixture for what 40 years?? Like all things BBL, that cannot be whitewashed. And it will show in the financial results. The right thing to do was for the BBL to takeover and operate the club for the season with Carl as operating partner before handing over the reigns of ownership. Also the fact that they couldn’t strike a deal to keep the Raiders name, history and IP is telling. And it signals weakness. Certainly won’t help the league to convince sponsors or investors that it’s worth their time. Without creating a new club now, who says there would have been chance of another franchise in Plymouth next season? |
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Post by bagger on Sept 9, 2021 18:39:00 GMT
Can you explain how the Turkish chap was crapped on. Really confused. Do you actually know what happened. Does anyone know.
Rightly or wrongly there will be a team in Plymouth this coming season and I have hope from what I see on Facebook from fans who are excited it will be long term.
Only time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 21:00:05 GMT
Totally agree. have seen it first hand with Stars/ Kestrels. Despite great success on court the following is nowhere near the former team... That was self-inflicted, though. Kestrels booked up Fleming Park and effectively killed Stars off. By the time they entered a senior team, 5 years later, all momentum had been lost As an aside, I'd never drink anything with "aid" in its name. I think it's possible Drunkster has been on the meths, though. |
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Post by bagger on Sept 10, 2021 8:06:23 GMT
So no answers as to what really happened. Come on let’s get to the bottom of this.
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Post by basketballjoe3 on Sept 10, 2021 8:21:38 GMT
So no answers as to what really happened. Come on let’s get to the bottom of this. Sorry, I've quite literally lost the thread here... In relation to what? |
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Post by bagger on Sept 10, 2021 8:37:03 GMT
Sorry
1. The Turk got crapped on.
2. Why did they really pull the plug on Raiders.
3. Who would not let the Raiders name be transferred and who has the name now.
Just a start. No presumption just facts.
Start here and please number your real answers.
Thank you.
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Post by basketballjoe3 on Sept 10, 2021 9:13:26 GMT
Sorry 1. The Turk got crapped on. 2. Why did they really pull the plug on Raiders. 3. Who would not let the Raiders name be transferred and who has the name now. Just a start. No presumption just facts. Start here and please number your real answers. Thank you. 1. Not a clue what that refers to. 2. The company was over £400k in negative equity over 12 months ago, it needed further investment, my understanding is the directors didn't exactly see eye to eye anymore and the issue with pavilions not being helped by some pretty choice negotiating tactics led to the press release of a season long hiatus. It's been discussed at length in the other thread on here so won't regurgitate it, but short answer is this led to forfeiture of the BBL franchise in some way which resulted in a tender for the franchise. 3. Again discussed elsewhere. The Raiders IP is owned by Raiders 83 Ltd, Patriots weren't able to agree commercial terms, it remains owned by Raiders 83 Ltd. |
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Post by bagger on Sept 10, 2021 9:24:39 GMT
1. Some foreign chap said they were crapped on.
3. Who owns Raiders 83 Ltd.
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Post by PointlessMonkey on Sept 10, 2021 9:30:37 GMT
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