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Post by LTFan on Sept 27, 2021 14:03:47 GMT
So we now know that former Chicago Bulls player Marquis Teaque is with the London Lions for their European campaign only. We knew something like this would have to happen to comply with BBL rules, but how does it work as a business decision? Even if Marquis Teaque is being paid on a 'per game' basis, surely he's living in London and training regularly with the team - which itself would come at a significant cost to the organisation. So if he's around anyway, what's the advantage to not having him play in BBL games? Why exempt your biggest star in favour of others? What am I missing?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 14:43:28 GMT
You can only have 4 Americans on a bbl roster but 5 of a euro one. He cant be (well 1 of the americans) can't be bbl registered too
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Post by LTFan on Sept 27, 2021 15:03:03 GMT
You can only have 4 Americans on a bbl roster but 5 of a euro one. He cant be (well 1 of the americans) can't be bbl registered too Yeah, I understand why an American isn't registered for BBL games, but why Marquis Teaque specifically? He's arguably their biggest signing of the season, they're paying for him to live in London, they're paying for him to regularly train with them... why then exempt him from the BBL games. If you've got a roaster too big for the BBL, wouldn't it make sense to exempt one of the other Americans instead? |
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Post by philip on Sept 27, 2021 15:09:55 GMT
Agree - But I imagine we (London) are living in a different world from the rest of the BBL right now.
I've followed a few of the players on Instagram from this season and last and they are clearly living a step above the average BBL athlete, from years past. For example, the rehab that Justin Robbinson looks to be having, the duty of care on the players and the all-around spend at the team, on and off the court.
I put it down to "money makes the world go around" - There is massive money wastage in all big companies which are justified away for one reason or another - I don't suppose London Lions are any different.
All the Euro only players were on the bench in street clothes yesterday and supported their BBL teammates.
I suppose it will always come down back to the debate - if a London team can really make it work in London.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Sept 27, 2021 15:16:39 GMT
You can only have 4 Americans on a bbl roster but 5 of a euro one. He cant be (well 1 of the americans) can't be bbl registered too Yeah, I understand why an American isn't registered for BBL games, but why Marquis Teaque specifically? He's arguably their biggest signing of the season, they're paying for him to live in London, they're paying for him to regularly train with them... why then exempt him from the BBL games. If you've got a roaster too big for the BBL, wouldn't it make sense to exempt one of the other Americans instead? It's obvious that the staff making the decisions think that Teague is the worst player of the five.in order to win in the BBL, they need their strongest team in the BBL!! Who thinks this little league of ours isn't the strongest in Europe? |
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Post by borthwick on Sept 27, 2021 15:18:03 GMT
It's interesting. If the LDN team in Europe isn't the LND team in the BBL can we really say LND are playing in Europe or is it just a team of. Basketball players who just get together for a game. Bears no relation ( or little) to the LDN we see every week?
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Post by philip on Sept 27, 2021 15:21:05 GMT
It's interesting. If the LDN team in Europe isn't the LND team in the BBL can we really say LND are playing in Europe or is it just a team of. Basketball players who just get together for a game. Bears no relation ( or little) to the LDN we see every week? Yea its the same team... Apart from 3 players. |
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Post by lexumcomp on Sept 27, 2021 15:35:27 GMT
It's probably even weirder from Teague's point if view. Why would you want to relocate to London just to play in a handful of euro games?
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Post by drivethebody on Sept 27, 2021 15:36:52 GMT
It's probably even weirder from Teague's point if view. Why would you want to relocate to London just to play in a handful of euro games? Money and a free hop on / off tour bus ticket? |
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Post by LTFan on Sept 27, 2021 16:09:01 GMT
It's probably even weirder from Teague's point if view. Why would you want to relocate to London just to play in a handful of euro games? Yeah, and I suppose that's how I'm looking at it... Sign a player with years of NBA experience, and then choose not to play him in any games apart from the European ones?!? I'd understand having him on a short term rolling contract, just keeping him around for as long as the European campaign goes on for, that'll save them a bit of money. But right now it doesn't feel like Lions are getting value for money on their biggest signing of the season. Yes, use him for success in Europe. But why not use him for success in the BBL too for as long as he's being paid to be here? |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Sept 27, 2021 16:26:25 GMT
Have I missed something here? Marquis Teague is the lone Europe only signing on the team, no? Everyone else will play, or at least be in the squad for all formats.
I don't know for sure but my guess would be that the other four Americans are playing over Teague in BBL competition because they're signed for the season and Teague is only on a short term deal. Lions did something similar last season with Stephen Brown who played a grand total of 12 minutes for the club then disappeared off to France.
Whilst Teague is probably the club's biggest signing of the season on paper, I doubt him playing would put too many more bums in seats and from a competitive standpoint, it matters not one bit who Lions suit up for this sleepy group stage Cup stuff. I'm actually surprised the key guys who were active yesterday played as many minutes as they did. Dirk played almost the entire 40... in a glorified preseason game... against a completely non-competitive opposition. These guys will be playing three games a week when Europe Cup gets going. Doesn't seem sensible to me playing them major minutes in the Cup.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 17:23:19 GMT
i believe they have 2 Euro obly players and their initial deal ends after the 1st group stage with an option for the second stage if they progress
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Sept 28, 2021 0:25:36 GMT
Yea my mistake. Completely forgot about that Majauskas guy who played for them in the BCL qualifier. I assume he's the other. Still a bit ridiculous in my opinion to suggest the Lions team that will be competing in Europe is unrecognisable from the one that will play in the BBL.
Not ideal that two potentially important players in Europe will be sat around cheerleading for a month but don't think it makes much of a difference which two those happen to be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 7:37:39 GMT
i imagine Teague's wages would cause BBL salary cap issues. And that's assuming they could afford him for the extra games and, as Steve says, whether it's worth it in the BBL Cup
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Post by LTFan on Sept 28, 2021 12:53:23 GMT
Thanks everyone. A couple of good points there that potentially justify paying for player with NBA experience to just sit and watch BBL games... keeping him fresh and injury free for the European campaign and keeping to overall team within BBL salary cap. A couple of things I hadn't considered.
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Post by borthwick on Sept 28, 2021 13:48:58 GMT
So when do we think Lions will be dropped as the team name?
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Post by tonyleopard on Sept 28, 2021 14:52:14 GMT
Looking at the new logo it does look like it is ready for a new name. Seeing as there appears to be a crown at the top perhaps Kings,Monarchs (though was the American football teams name) or heaven forbid, Royals.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 28, 2021 21:42:43 GMT
Go full family guy. Call them the London Silly Nannies.
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Post by ridercolt on Sept 29, 2021 9:09:04 GMT
Go full family guy. Call them the London Silly Nannies. I laughed at this for longer than I should of |
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