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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:35:35 GMT
I got the day off, might get tomorrow off as well but think I'll be back in.
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Post by sonjel on Mar 1, 2018 14:50:27 GMT
Mac, that's nothing Currently doing 12hr night shifts. Driving home at 4am in the morning, up the A19 from Teeside to Tyneside. Average speed 15 to 30 mph. High winds, drifting snow. no road markings ... But my biggest concern is the F...ing Idiots driving around me ... Very scary Yes, I have driven Newcastle to Teeside in the snow and back. Only the once and I am in no hurry to repeat it. You have my sympathy👍 I bet that was no Picnic!! 😎
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Post by ananalyticalobserver on Mar 1, 2018 15:36:13 GMT
I hear a Wispa there’s a big game Sunday :-)
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Post by 2NFR on Mar 1, 2018 15:40:05 GMT
see what ya did there
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Post by ananalyticalobserver on Mar 1, 2018 16:21:19 GMT
Have to throw in a curly wurly occasionally, part of the Wagon Wheel of life on Mars :-)
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 1, 2018 18:46:44 GMT
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 2, 2018 18:47:11 GMT
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 20, 2018 21:18:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 21:40:49 GMT
Haha, that's brilliant! I admire the audacity.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 20, 2018 21:42:36 GMT
Haha, that's brilliant! I admire the audacity. From the second angle I can actually see how it's given!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 19:49:52 GMT
This tickled me
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Post by 2NFR on Mar 24, 2018 23:26:39 GMT
Not sure whats more funnier ... Lionel Nessi ... or 2 cans Iron Brew walking around ... Surreal
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 11:44:45 GMT
Not bad
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Post by interestedridersfan on Apr 4, 2018 14:14:35 GMT
Yep I was thinking of posting this How you even attempt it without risking breaking your neck? It's not something you can really practise either But I imagine an influx of kids in A and E who try to do the same
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 17:21:38 GMT
What did you see as the implications?
I found the article intriguing. I do wonder what the benefit of continual tinkering by English rugby is though. Their system is so radically different from the Irish that I wonder what they realistically expect to achieve? While the Pro 14 goes more global, the RFU seems, in some respects, to want to become more insular and invite more English teams into a premiership party that doesn't really have the room (or resources) to add value?
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Post by and3 on Apr 9, 2018 22:22:44 GMT
we were discussing something similar a few weeks ago in relation the BBL/NBL. it is very interesting that rugby, which is a lot more successful than bb, is willing to shake things up ! I have always argued that bb got things wrong when it did not work from the grass-roots up rather than the top down. This is a huge mistake. For instance, all the outdoor courts that were built everywhere in the UK, how many are used? how many have regular coaching sessions? How many have a club attached? Seems to me that a lot of money got squandered.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 8:41:23 GMT
we were discussing something similar a few weeks ago in relation the BBL/NBL. it is very interesting that rugby, which is a lot more successful than bb, is willing to shake things up ! I have always argued that bb got things wrong when it did not work from the grass-roots up rather than the top down. This is a huge mistake. For instance, all the outdoor courts that were built everywhere in the UK, how many are used? how many have regular coaching sessions? How many have a club attached? Seems to me that a lot of money got squandered. I tend to agree. I think if you're going to work top down then you're going to need a *lot* of money over a period of many years to get it in the public eye and keep it there. Not convinced it would be sustainable anyway. There's a lot made about the number of young people playing basketball. It's brought out like it's some sort of ace card over and over again. Not much use having participation like that if you're not going to harness it.... which is potentially where the outdoor courts come in. Your link, I presume, is an example of how that can work effectively?
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Post by connors on Apr 12, 2018 10:09:12 GMT
In general I've always favoured relegation and promotion structures over closed leagues with protected teams and playoffs.
Ultimately though I guess every league is a closed shop. In football the winners of the National League can only achieve promotion if they tick a certain amount of criteria. Its not so long ago that the winners of the then conference were regularly not promoted due to issues with seating at stadiums. It just is a question of scale.
I'm a massive rugby fan and more often than not the team that comes up bounces straight back down. I live in the north east now and Newcastle have often mooted that there success this season was based on the fact that the last two seasons the teams that came up were so bad that it afforded them the luxury of playing to improve in the medium term rather than simply battling to survive. This has enabled them to blood younger talent and their position in the league at times this season has shown that has born fruit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 17:53:08 GMT
London Welsh are a prime example of why a closed shop league works, similar with Birmingham Knights in the BBL.
Both were hopless
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 17:58:33 GMT
Works, or doesn't work? Would relegation have allowed knights to find a more suitable level?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 19:48:05 GMT
Perhaps, then again I think the BBL and NBL should be jointly involved in any application to join the set up. That way both bodies can assess which league would be suitable for the team on a case by case basis.
The factors would be venue size, playing roster, facilities. I wouldn't be in favour of a closed shop but would rather see a pyramid setup with promotion & relegation, let's set up regional leagues to be inserted into a new set up so that it would be affordable for teams.
I don't like Americanisation of British leagues, makes us look silly, have our own way of doing things.
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Post by number23 on Apr 12, 2018 23:46:33 GMT
Completely agree about the benefits of promotion/relegation versus a closed shop. It helps avoid struggling teams stagnating at the bottom, and means more meaningful games at the bottom end of the league - which I imagine is more appealing for potential broadcasters, as there's fewer dead rubbers. I think having clear and enforced standards (particularly at the upper end) is important though, and I think the National League connors mentioned is a good example of how it can work to improve standards.
Would like to see the BBL forge more of its own identity than try to copy the American model on a reduced budget, too.
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Post by hersey427 on Apr 13, 2018 7:03:44 GMT
we were discussing something similar a few weeks ago in relation the BBL/NBL. it is very interesting that rugby, which is a lot more successful than bb, is willing to shake things up ! I have always argued that bb got things wrong when it did not work from the grass-roots up rather than the top down. This is a huge mistake. For instance, all the outdoor courts that were built everywhere in the UK, how many are used? how many have regular coaching sessions? How many have a club attached? Seems to me that a lot of money got squandered. I tend to agree. I think if you're going to work top down then you're going to need a *lot* of money over a period of many years to get it in the public eye and keep it there. Not convinced it would be sustainable anyway. There's a lot made about the number of young people playing basketball. It's brought out like it's some sort of ace card over and over again. Not much use having participation like that if you're not going to harness it.... which is potentially where the outdoor courts come in. Your link, I presume, is an example of how that can work effectively? Funnily enough, I've been working on an article about what was going to be the greatest top down injection of money into British basketball EVER. I'd even done some research. I bring you the BBA, the league that never saw a blown layup.
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