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Post by SamH on Jun 27, 2019 12:42:53 GMT
This is a problem but I wonder if fewer games would justify higher prices to make up the gate money? I know some places already charge sky high prices though. But not every venue sells out regularly.
Or they re-work the TV deals so owners get a bigger cut in return for fewer games or something.
WNBA only play 34 games and that hasn't stopped them having competitive seasons but obviously there's much less revenue there.
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Post by connors on Jun 28, 2019 8:35:17 GMT
Apparently the Rockets are offering Capela, Tucker and Gordon to Philly for Butler.
I've got to say I don't understand that one. I rate Butler but I don't think he is worth those 3 players - particularly to join Harden and Paul.
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Post by raiders92 on Jun 29, 2019 12:06:48 GMT
Apparently the Rockets are offering Capela, Tucker and Gordon to Philly for Butler. I've got to say I don't understand that one. I rate Butler but I don't think he is worth those 3 players - particularly to join Harden and Paul. I love that if your philly you pay jj redick and add in gordan what he wants add that to the non shooters in embiid and Simmonds and have capela first man off the bench! |
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Post by SamH on Jun 29, 2019 15:40:40 GMT
The only reason I can see to trade Butler is if he isn't getting along with Embiid and Simmonds as has been rumoured. Not sure either lineup is quite championship material though but it's usually better to have an all star level player than some nice pieces (e.g. Lakers trading everyone for AD then shipping the bit parts off to Washington. They might be aiming to field only 4 players come October, but they'll have talent!)
Butler, Harden and Paul - sounds good on paper but again I'm not convinced they would work well together and it sounds like Harden and Paul's relationship is already fractured. But they need to try something I guess, their window of opportunity is closing due to Paul's age. The current lineup clearly isn't good enough.
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Post by SamH on Jun 29, 2019 22:34:49 GMT
So this is interesting. Kyrie looks set to go to the Nets, Kemba to the Celtics, and Russell will be renounced by the Nets which presumably makes him a free agent.
For me Boston are downgrading slightly with this, but perhaps Walker will have better team chemistry than Kyrie. Meanwhile I'm not sure he's a big upgrade on Russell for the Nets because Russell has just had a breakout season and we don't know how much better he could still get. Or is it possible to keep both and play one of them primarily at the 2 spot?
That leaves Charlotte. I'm disappointed in MJ, he's not trying very hard to build a winning programme there, is he? Or hire people who can. What's the big plan to replace the only star they've had in years who's being allowed to walk for nothing? *Tumbleweed...*
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Post by r33 on Jun 30, 2019 19:42:06 GMT
Kinda disappointed that the Nets are taking their super-high chemistry, feel-good squad from last season and introducing the Kyrie circus, but.... nobody thought Russell was a good teammate in LA so maybe they can turn Kyrie into someone who can get on with other people. Durant announcing his destination at 11pm tonight btw........ popcorn at the ready, folks. My money's on Barcelona  |
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Post by SamH on Jun 30, 2019 20:40:53 GMT
Yes it seems the fact you have to pay him max money for nothing next season hasn't put off any of the expected suitors so he has opted out and I think is going to be on the move, but not sure where to.
Meanwhile Lillard is staying in Portland signing a super max extension, fair play to them for keeping hold of him through his prime years. That's another good team in the West that's possibly just one good piece away from contending.
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Post by SamH on Jul 1, 2019 1:31:29 GMT
Butler to Miami for...Josh Richardson? Don't get it. Miami isn't close to contending even with Butler, and it's surely a downgrade for the sixers. Butler seemingly doesn't get on with anyone so why not just keep him and hope his talent overcomes chemistry issues? I know I said even with him they're not contenders but they weren't far off. I don't think Josh Richardson makes them better.
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Post by connors on Jul 1, 2019 7:52:39 GMT
Horford to the 76ers. Good move. Can play with or instead of Embiid. Good team mate, steady influence, versatile performer.
So that seems to have been why they needed Jimmy off the books who is not necessarily all of those things......
I guess him settling on Miami shows that money and location are more interesting to him than challenging for a title and who am I to blame him!
I love the Russell to Warriors story. I presume they are looking at moving Klay to the 3 spot when he returns? ESPN are suggesting it is a multi year deal for Russell and will result in Igoudala being traded to Memphis.
Warriors still a very thin squad though. Wonder if they can (or want to resign) Boogie?
Interesting stuff and it shows how good KD is that the anyone is willing to pay him despite the unknowns. Clearly the Nets felt it was worth the risk.
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Post by SamH on Jul 1, 2019 15:40:03 GMT
Apparently Dolan wasn't prepared to pay which took the Knicks out of the KD running. Will be interesting to see how he plays with Kyrie who will need to get through a frustrating next season without him. They also nabbed DeAndre Jordan but he's not quite what he used to be.
Horford to Philly makes sense and is a good replacement for Butler.
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Post by SamH on Jul 1, 2019 18:19:56 GMT
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Post by connors on Jul 1, 2019 19:36:58 GMT
This is great!,
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Post by SamH on Jul 2, 2019 15:56:55 GMT
And it's finally caught up with them. Warriors forced to give Iguodala away to Memphis for nothing as they had to dump some salary. This was always going to happen in the end. Some people are now saying GS won't even make the playoffs next year, relying on Curry, Green and Russell and obviously the latter will need to gel with them. It's an interesting thought but I think Curry will have a monster season now Durant and Klay aren't there.
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Post by connors on Jul 2, 2019 16:50:52 GMT
They’re thin for sure Sam. I presume you don’t think they’ll sign Cousins? If they did they’ still be able to field 4 All Star calibre players in their starting line up.
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Post by samgray on Jul 2, 2019 17:54:33 GMT
And it's finally caught up with them. Warriors forced to give Iguodala away to Memphis for nothing as they had to dump some salary. This was always going to happen in the end. Some people are now saying GS won't even make the playoffs next year, relying on Curry, Green and Russell and obviously the latter will need to gel with them. It's an interesting thought but I think Curry will have a monster season now Durant and Klay aren't there. Hasn’t Klay signed a max deal there? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 21:24:21 GMT
He has/Will. But he's out for a while. Though being well hard, he'll be back ahead of schedule
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Post by SamH on Jul 2, 2019 21:45:06 GMT
Yeah obviously long term they should be ok with Klay back and I'm sure they'll be able to add/attract other good players, unlike say, the Knicks. But the west looks so loaded for next season, someone good is in for a disappointing time. I still think GS make the playoffs, but won't be contenders even if Klay is back. Not on current roster anyway. Cousins should be a target for them but I'm not sure he is? The suggestion being he is a bit slow and lumbering since the injury and GS like to push the pace, so it's not a good mix. But I thought he showed some real promise at times in their system last season, especially game 2 of the finals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 8:51:41 GMT
Well that's put the cat among the pigeons!
Lakers no longer the best team in LA?
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Post by SamH on Jul 6, 2019 9:34:17 GMT
WTF was Sam Presti thinking?!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 11:09:37 GMT
Kawhi off to the Clippers, WHAT?
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Post by AJ on Jul 6, 2019 15:43:06 GMT
Kawhi off to the Clippers, WHAT? Very happy with this. |
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Post by SamH on Jul 6, 2019 16:31:00 GMT
Apparently Paul George asked to be traded, but I don't see why teams should bend so readily to the demands. Why send your star player to a rival team just because he asks? He couldn't sign that contract fast enough last year, I wasn't aware of any discontent but perhaps another early playoff exit was something to do with it. But I don't see why Presti should give him what he, Leonard and the Clippers want. He's not in a contract year so he could be traded anywhere. What's the point of contracts if players can just tell you where they want to play a year later and you have to acquiesce to it?
Some reports reckon it's not a bad return under the circumstances, but I disagree. Two ok but not star players and a shed load of picks from a team not likely to be in the lottery for several years now is not great in my opinion.
Also seen suggestions that Westbrook could be next and a complete overhaul is in the works. I don't know, two first round exits with Russ and PG was disappointing, and they weren't going to win a chip next year either - but I just feel really disappointed with this.
Also a bit disappointed Leonard didn't want to stay in Toronto after delivering a championship. Whatever happened to the challenge of "it's hard to win a championship but even harder to defend it" - I would have liked to see the Raptors get that opportunity.
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Post by connors on Jul 6, 2019 18:58:31 GMT
I agree that’s its disappointing with the departures in Toronto that they won’t properly be able to defend their title. I also am surprised that with so little noise about George that OKC also caved to his demand so quickly! They must’ve been very sure he was going to be a problem.
I don’t think they necessarily compliment each other. Very similar players but I guess that’s modern NBA....stack up your team with wings and space and pace it!
I read Russ could be next but apparently not many obvious destinations. New York are a car crash and he plays like a car about to crash so wonder if they could get something done? 😉
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Post by connors on Jul 6, 2019 19:04:52 GMT
I agree that’s its disappointing with the departures in Toronto that they won’t properly be able to defend their title. I also am surprised that with so little noise about George that OKC also caved to his demand so quickly! They must’ve been very sure he was going to be a problem.
I don’t think they necessarily compliment each other. Very similar players but I guess that’s modern NBA....stack up your team with wings and space and pace it!
I read Russ could be next but apparently not many obvious destinations. New York are a car crash and he plays like a car about to crash so wonder if they could get something done? 😉
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Post by SamH on Jul 6, 2019 19:17:01 GMT
The Knicks would have to trade their entire roster, Spike Lee, Charles Oakley (complete with complimentary tickets to games once again) and...oh no hang on, that would still be a terrible deal for OKC. 😂
Given how tough the west is, I'm resigned to missing the playoffs next season now and am almost resigned to losing Russ. It's not really worth hanging on to him at this point. They had two "goes" at it with KD/Russ then PG/Russ but they're not going to conjure up another superstar to pair with him this time, so it's basically over and you might as well deal him to get pieces.
I could see him settling somewhere like Miami if they can make a deal.
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