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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 17:43:07 GMT
37-34 end of first half!!
Playing out of our skin to be that close
We just got 2 x 3s end of second including a buzzer beater
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 17:44:43 GMT
Trayvonn also injured and only played 2 mins so far
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Post by 2NFR on Oct 31, 2018 17:53:36 GMT
Injured ? ... or just saving themselves for Friday night ... Hmmm!! ... I smell shenanigans
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:08:57 GMT
Injured ? ... or just saving themselves for Friday night ... Hmmm!! ... I smell shenanigans Why would they save themselves for a Micky mouse game against you guys?
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Post by 2NFR on Oct 31, 2018 18:13:15 GMT
59 - 47 end of 3rd
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:16:20 GMT
Our 3pt shooting is killing us
6 from 22
It's like a stat line from Nims last season!
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:28:09 GMT
72-65 with 3 mins left
Washington has had a brilliant game tonight
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:36:15 GMT
76-71 - 48 secs left
We've given them a right battle!!
We will beat someone in this sooner or later!!
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:40:30 GMT
80-77
5 secs left but they are inbounding
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Post by benji on Oct 31, 2018 18:46:00 GMT
Not sure where the noise was coming from, all the people I could see in the crowd looked bored out of their brains!
Either way, good job Riders, not far off.
Not sure what the US call was for? Would be good to see a replay.
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Post by jimmylad on Oct 31, 2018 18:47:02 GMT
Valiant effort considering Riders were yet again short handed. It would be nice for them to have a fully fit roster at least once so we can fairly compare the performances.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:47:37 GMT
Lost 82-79
Washington 22 mins for 21 points Thomson 21 mins 14 points Anderson and holder 11 points each Douse 10 points Hampton still getting match fit just 7 points
Their fans gave our team a great ovation at the end of the game
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Post by stevetino on Oct 31, 2018 19:29:27 GMT
Hey look I'm not saying Thomson is a bad player and a decent captain, far from it. I actually know him a little bit from his Everton days and you could tell then the guy was a class act. But he's a different type of Captain to Bernardini and Sullivan before him. He isn't a guy whos going to burn you for 15 straight points down the stretch and literally carry everyone around him on his back - he's more a guy who'll ensure discipline and carry out his role to the best of his ability and is steady at all times rather than having the ability to literally explode when the chips are down. In essence I see him as a calming influence rather than the first one into battle. That's not to say he doesn't have respect around the league - far from it - after all he's not played on a team that hasn't won something in that same season. He's just a different type of captain to Tyler and Sulli.
So how do you replace what those type of players brought to the table. I've seen flashes from Bennett and Holder that suggest 2-3 years down the line it might be them (but I imagine both will be off rightly chasing £$£$£ by then) performance wise but I don't know too much about their personalities to say whether its in them or not.
I think an awful lot more responsibility falls on Hampton this year. We'll see if he's up to it. Problem is its easier to be that guy from a guard spot, and although Lascelles is coming along nicely and Washington and Douse can be explosive I don't think you're that close right now to replacing what Bernardini gave.
I guess what I'm trying to say is the team is going to have to work together better and get more from each other than it ever has done, and right now I'm seeing hero ball from Holder and sometimes Bennett to get you out of spots. That was something you admit yourself wasn't the Riders way.
Fletcher is the only one similar to Bernardini in that respect. Maybe Robinson too.
I see Robinson and Fletch as much quieter individuals than Tyler myself. But I agree maybe leaders in their own way Drew wasn't actually captain whilst at Riders whilst I've supported them - although I 100 per cent accept he was a leader whilst he was with us without needing the title. As was Tyler at the time. Barry Lamble had the captain's role back then At Riders being the captain includes telling the players where to be and when off the court and basic stuff about what kit they need as well etc as all the leadership on court as well And don't forget with Tyler he also used to scout and review opposition videos and potential signings etc. He called all the plays all of the time. He predicted and called opposition plays and kicked himself in games when he missed stuff like that Very OCD in that resepct Will Robinson and Fletch be doing that at their clubs? Which is why I say I think he's a one off in BBL Maybe Lamble could come back into the fold to help out a bit INF?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 19:34:10 GMT
Thomson doing a great job for us I think. He's certainly trying to lead by example. He's playing very well and I just hope he stays fit.
forget the Royals game. These Euro teams are quality and we are competing with them really well.
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Post by baldeagle on Oct 31, 2018 20:40:51 GMT
Injured ? ... or just saving themselves for Friday night ... Hmmm!! ... I smell shenanigans Why would they save themselves for a Micky mouse game against you guys? LOL. But, seriously, a good effort from Riders tonight against what looked a beatable team - the sort of game you will win next year with the benefit of this experience. If you qualify, of course 🤔
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 31, 2018 21:14:46 GMT
Why would they save themselves for a Micky mouse game against you guys? LOL. But, seriously, a good effort from Riders tonight against what looked a beatable team - the sort of game you will win next year with the benefit of this experience. If you qualify, of course 🤔 I think we really shocked their fans and their team how close it was Can we beat one of the Hungarian teams at home I hope so! Will be like winning a trophy if we do!!
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Post by stevetino on Oct 31, 2018 22:07:36 GMT
LOL. But, seriously, a good effort from Riders tonight against what looked a beatable team - the sort of game you will win next year with the benefit of this experience. If you qualify, of course 🤔 I think we really shocked their fans and their team how close it was Can we beat one of the Hungarian teams at home I hope so! Will be like winning a trophy if we do!! No reason why you cant
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Oct 31, 2018 22:54:21 GMT
Some effort that from a pretty under strength Riders team. No Burnett, for all intents and purposes no TrayVonn, Pierre looking far from his best and we still pushed them all the way. A massive improvement on last week and certainly makes a home win against either of the Hungarian sides next month look perfectly achievable.
Really good performance from Conner who, in my opinion, should now re-assume the role I'm sure he was initially signed to play (i.e. starting PG). Our backcourt has been a real merry go round so far. I believe I'm right in thinking that Washington, Douse and Lascelles have all had at least one turn as a starter. Douse has looked pretty good but for me, is very much in the score first, combo guard mould and probably not an ideal compliment to Burnett (who I'm assuming will return to the starting five when healthy). If he can keep up his current form, I think he'd make for an ideal 'spark off the bench' type player this season. He's got far greater shot-making ability than most backups in this league.
Lascelles I just think has been chronically overused to this point. Probably the best passer of the lot but until he evolves into a semi-effective scorer, I just don't think he's a good enough all round player to be logging significant minutes at this level. He's failed to even register a FGA in three consecutive games now. He's such a non-entity as a scorer that it must surely effect spacing and make life tougher for everyone else when he's on the floor. Expected him to be parked next to Gamble and Ward-Hibbert eating popcorn during our European fixtures, not playing 15-20 mpg.
Whilst I wasn't overly enamoured with the idea of Washington re-signing as a starter, he's probably the most well rounded of the three and I'm at a bit of a loss to explain why he's been used so sparingly prior to today.
Burnett appeared to be in uniform tonight so I figure he probably went through warm-ups. Didn't look to be moving too well during the post-game handshakes though so has to be considered a doubt for Friday.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 1, 2018 1:43:39 GMT
Rob "our aim when we entered this competition was to get better than when we started and that's what we are doing"
(Which answers a couple of questions earlier in the thread)
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 1, 2018 1:48:51 GMT
Sassari beat Vulcano 104-69 tonight
That's the first hammering any team has taken in this group
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Post by rideralex on Nov 1, 2018 3:22:04 GMT
Some effort that from a pretty under strength Riders team. No Burnett, for all intents and purposes no TrayVonn, Pierre looking far from his best and we still pushed them all the way. A massive improvement on last week and certainly makes a home win against either of the Hungarian sides next month look perfectly achievable. Really good performance from Conner who, in my opinion, should now re-assume the role I'm sure he was initially signed to play (i.e. starting PG). Our backcourt has been a real merry go round so far. I believe I'm right in thinking that Washington, Douse and Lascelles have all had at least one turn as a starter. Douse has looked pretty good but for me, is very much in the score first, combo guard mould and probably not an ideal compliment to Burnett (who I'm assuming will return to the starting five when healthy). If he can keep up his current form, I think he'd make for an ideal 'spark off the bench' type player this season. He's got far greater shot-making ability than most backups in this league. Lascelles I just think has been chronically overused to this point. Probably the best passer of the lot but until he evolves into a semi-effective scorer, I just don't think he's a good enough all round player to be logging significant minutes at this level. He's failed to even register a FGA in three consecutive games now. He's such a non-entity as a scorer that it must surely effect spacing and make life tougher for everyone else when he's on the floor. Expected him to be parked next to Gamble and Ward-Hibbert eating popcorn during our European fixtures, not playing 15-20 mpg. Whilst I wasn't overly enamoured with the idea of Washington re-signing as a starter, he's probably the most well rounded of the three and I'm at a bit of a loss to explain why he's been used so sparingly prior to today. Burnett appeared to be in uniform tonight so I figure he probably went through warm-ups. Didn't look to be moving too well during the post-game handshakes though so has to be considered a doubt for Friday. We probably got that close because certain players couldn't play much rather than despite that. TrayVonn did very little last season and about the same so far this season but continues to be given significant minutes that are better used elsewhere. Similarly Conner has been used way too little until this game and as normal we became better when he had to play significant minutes in an important game. TrayVonn and Burnett are also the main culprits of taking shots that have little chance of going in so having most basically missing probably improved our shot choice significantly. I'd far rather a player like Rema who'll never shoot over a player who'll choose the shot over passing to a player in a better place.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Nov 1, 2018 9:14:01 GMT
That was a very good effort considering the pile-up on our injury list. Not the best time to be facing Eagles!
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Post by Solly on Nov 1, 2018 11:13:46 GMT
Very respectable display and made for enjoyable TV at the end.
Thought that Riders took too long on their offenses in the last couple of minutes when they trailed.
Larsson doesn't seem to offer much and certainly looks like Hampton is taking a time to get back to effectiveness. Consequently, the greybeard Thomson had a lot to do battling their bigs.
Am sure it will be business as usual for Leics in the BBL. Longer-term, a few defeats in Europe won't do much harm and gives more perspective about what the club aspires to - what's the point of them only having the one team offering any resistance to them in the BBL year after year - about time other clubs made the BBL a less predictable league...
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Post by davetwt on Nov 1, 2018 11:53:42 GMT
I could not agree more Solly,but if we play like we did against the Royals in the BBL we are well and truly stuffed
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Post by lieutenantdeng on Nov 1, 2018 14:01:32 GMT
Lascelles I just think has been chronically overused to this point. Probably the best passer of the lot but until he evolves into a semi-effective scorer, I just don't think he's a good enough all round player to be logging significant minutes at this level. He's failed to even register a FGA in three consecutive games now. He's such a non-entity as a scorer that it must surely effect spacing and make life tougher for everyone else when he's on the floor. Expected him to be parked next to Gamble and Ward-Hibbert eating popcorn during our European fixtures, not playing 15-20 mpg. Nice to see someone else who thinks this. After reading what others on here think about him I was expecting to see him getting NBA call ups...
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