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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 10, 2019 18:20:09 GMT
Now they've walked the walk
Fair play to Royals and full respect winning a trophy in their first season
Capable of beating any BBL team on their day
They could help decide the League Winners as well
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 18:22:54 GMT
The Rocks owner said he was here to win trophies. So far he’s binned more coaches than he has won trophies. It’s good to see the Royals do things right.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 10, 2019 18:33:50 GMT
Lions and Riders both play Royals twice in BBL between now and end of season
Lions play them next week. Riders the week after.
Like I say they can seriously influence the league title. More than capable of beating both of us.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 10, 2019 18:44:25 GMT
The Rocks owner said he was here to win trophies. So far he’s binned more coaches than he has won trophies. It’s good to see the Royals do things right. Don’t get me wrong, great achievement and with british players as well. But have they done things right? To me they’re paying people massive wages, no youth setup and no real proof of how it’s going to be sustainable without making substantial losses. If (which I hope they are) they’re still around in 5+ years, still bringing in big British names, filling Crystal Palace week in week out and have a sustainable youth programme running through the city of London, then I’ll doff my cap. Im not saying they’re going about it the wrong way, but it’s too early to say yet. |
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Post by stevetino on Mar 10, 2019 19:33:04 GMT
Lions and Riders both play Royals twice in BBL between now and end of season Lions play them next week. Riders the week after. Like I say they can seriously influence the league title. More than capable of beating both of us. Realistically tho royals efforts would have been 100% on the trophy something they could actually win, they could just as easily get rolled over by lions, riders & eagles in the run in without that extra motivation they had today |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 10, 2019 19:47:52 GMT
Lions and Riders both play Royals twice in BBL between now and end of season Lions play them next week. Riders the week after. Like I say they can seriously influence the league title. More than capable of beating both of us. Realistically tho royals efforts would have been 100% on the trophy something they could actually win, they could just as easily get rolled over by lions, riders & eagles in the run in without that extra motivation they had today I think they've got too much ego and pride in the team to do that Ps who said you could bring Eagles into the league title conversation Steve? Wink wink |
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Post by stevetino on Mar 10, 2019 20:21:17 GMT
Realistically tho royals efforts would have been 100% on the trophy something they could actually win, they could just as easily get rolled over by lions, riders & eagles in the run in without that extra motivation they had today I think they've got too much ego and pride in the team to do that Ps who said you could bring Eagles into the league title conversation Steve? Wink wink We shall see I guess, be interesting either way! Anyway I think we are due at your place next Friday INF.. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 21:04:02 GMT
The Rocks owner said he was here to win trophies. So far he’s binned more coaches than he has won trophies. It’s good to see the Royals do things right. Don’t get me wrong, great achievement and with british players as well. But have they done things right? To me they’re paying people massive wages, no youth setup and no real proof of how it’s going to be sustainable without making substantial losses. If (which I hope they are) they’re still around in 5+ years, still bringing in big British names, filling Crystal Palace week in week out and have a sustainable youth programme running through the city of London, then I’ll doff my cap. Im not saying they’re going about it the wrong way, but it’s too early to say yet. +1 |
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Post by eagle on Mar 11, 2019 12:31:59 GMT
They beat.
Wales (34-0 at one stage)
Worthing (decent Undersized ebl team)
Rocks (underachieving 3rd bottom of bbl)
Lions : hell of a game, albeit benefitted from having lions critical MBA defender not able to play.
Credit for beating what’s in front of them but it could have been a lot harder!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 12:49:57 GMT
Have we considered the possibility that Rocks aren't underachieving but are, infact, just a piss poor team in their rightful place?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 12:55:54 GMT
It is beginning to look that way. I suspect it's time for a complete rebuild. I do need to mention that you're doing a IRF by making everything about your club  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 13:20:21 GMT
This is true. My minute smattering of knowledge on the BBL is mostly limited to Rocks. I've no choice but to find tenuous links in order to join in the conversation  |
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Post by LTFan on Mar 11, 2019 13:40:43 GMT
First off, credit where credit is due. They made the claim they were in the BBL to win titles in their first season, and I doubted them. They’ve now won their first title in less than 12 months of being in existence, I have to respect them for that.
MBA and Hamilton are incredibly players. Their commitment to winning in the Trophy final was extremely evident… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player more exhausted but still performing than MBA in that game.
But in the other thread it’s claimed Royals are paying MBA £8K a month… let’s say they’ve got him for 10 months, that’s £80K for him alone. And I’m assuming Hamilton must be on something similar. Where on earth is this money coming from? If Luol Deng is really they money behind the Royals wouldn’t it have come out by now? And why wouldn’t they want to use his name as a form of promotion?
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Mar 11, 2019 13:55:32 GMT
Motivation and perspiration were certainly in evidence in the cup final, but TBH completely lacking last week when they lost to a 6 man Phoenix squad. Cup finals are a different ball game.
EDIT . OK before anyone points this out they did score 21 and 22 points in that game, they just didn't appear to break sweat. Perhaps that just shows their quality and ability to score so many without really looking like they were trying. Perhaps that comment should be directed at therest of the squad.
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Post by LTFan on Mar 11, 2019 14:02:54 GMT
Motivation and perspiration were certainly in evidence in the cup final, but TBH completely lacking last week when they lost to a 6 man Phoenix squad. Cup finals are a different ball game. Tell me about it(!)… that’s evident also by the fact Lions beat them by 17 points in December. Although I suppose you could argue they’re more established playing as a team now than they were then. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 14:30:52 GMT
It is beginning to look that way. I suspect it's time for a complete rebuild. I do need to mention that you're doing a IRF by making everything about your club The Rocks have no choice but to completely rebuild. Achara is at the tail end of his career, Murray has played at least a season too long, Bunyan is keeping his bench place so he can get his 10 year testimonial match and we are going through coaches like there is a never ending supply of them. |
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Post by faz on Mar 11, 2019 15:37:51 GMT
First off, credit where credit is due. They made the claim they were in the BBL to win titles in their first season, and I doubted them. They’ve now won their first title in less than 12 months of being in existence, I have to respect them for that. MBA and Hamilton are incredibly players. Their commitment to winning in the Trophy final was extremely evident… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player more exhausted but still performing than MBA in that game. But in the other thread it’s claimed Royals are paying MBA £8K a month… let’s say they’ve got him for 10 months, that’s £80K for him alone. And I’m assuming Hamilton must be on something similar. Where on earth is this money coming from? If Luol Deng is really they money behind the Royals wouldn’t it have come out by now? And why wouldn’t they want to use his name as a form of promotion? I’d be interested in who is backing them. Sounds like deep pockets. Hope they can maintain it as it’s great to have good brits playing in thd bbl. can only help grow the meague |
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Post by fauxnicks on Mar 11, 2019 17:16:09 GMT
First off, credit where credit is due. They made the claim they were in the BBL to win titles in their first season, and I doubted them. They’ve now won their first title in less than 12 months of being in existence, I have to respect them for that. MBA and Hamilton are incredibly players. Their commitment to winning in the Trophy final was extremely evident… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player more exhausted but still performing than MBA in that game. But in the other thread it’s claimed Royals are paying MBA £8K a month… let’s say they’ve got him for 10 months, that’s £80K for him alone. And I’m assuming Hamilton must be on something similar. Where on earth is this money coming from? If Luol Deng is really they money behind the Royals wouldn’t it have come out by now? And why wouldn’t they want to use his name as a form of promotion? I’d be interested in who is backing them. Sounds like deep pockets. Hope they can maintain it as it’s great to have good brits playing in thd bbl. can only help grow the meague Maybe comparisons can be drawn with what Dan Routledge discusses in the Hoopsfix podcast and BBL in the 90’s? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 11, 2019 18:14:20 GMT
First off, credit where credit is due. They made the claim they were in the BBL to win titles in their first season, and I doubted them. They’ve now won their first title in less than 12 months of being in existence, I have to respect them for that. MBA and Hamilton are incredibly players. Their commitment to winning in the Trophy final was extremely evident… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player more exhausted but still performing than MBA in that game. But in the other thread it’s claimed Royals are paying MBA £8K a month… let’s say they’ve got him for 10 months, that’s £80K for him alone. And I’m assuming Hamilton must be on something similar. Where on earth is this money coming from? If Luol Deng is really they money behind the Royals wouldn’t it have come out by now? And why wouldn’t they want to use his name as a form of promotion? I'm thinking that whilst Deng is a pro NBA player he doesn't want to publicise the fact he's funding another basketball club? And it suits him to keep it under the radar for now. Stay focussed on his proper job etc. Assuming it is him. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 20:20:32 GMT
Considering all that Luol has done in basketball in this country is youth based I csnt see him funding a team without a youth programme
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 22:09:28 GMT
The Rocks owner said he was here to win trophies. So far he’s binned more coaches than he has won trophies. It’s good to see the Royals do things right. Don’t get me wrong, great achievement and with british players as well. But have they done things right? To me they’re paying people massive wages, no youth setup and no real proof of how it’s going to be sustainable without making substantial losses. If (which I hope they are) they’re still around in 5+ years, still bringing in big British names, filling Crystal Palace week in week out and have a sustainable youth programme running through the city of London, then I’ll doff my cap. Im not saying they’re going about it the wrong way, but it’s too early to say yet. I don't know about BBL team budgets. All I've heard for years is that the Eagles and Riders have had the biggest budget in the league and they have been winning everything. I say, good luck to the new team in town. If their owner/GM thinks they have a business plan to compete with that then lets hope its successful for them. All I know is tat the Rocks promised everything but delivered nothing. Its only now with this new owner, who wants judged on silverware, have the fans started criticizing the team and its management. So for me the Royals are doing it right. But as with other winning franchises, I may be proven wrong. |
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Post by gloryeagle on Mar 11, 2019 22:20:28 GMT
So by my understanding BBL Salary cap rules are £200k per year per roster not including the two highest paid British players. So we assume that MBA and Hamilton are on big bucks and then the £200k maxed out?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 22:39:15 GMT
All I know is tat the Rocks promised everything but delivered nothing. Its only now with this new owner, who wants judged on silverware, have the fans started criticizing the team and its management. You must have missed the original thread about Royals. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 22:42:14 GMT
You must have missed the original thread about Royals. I don't really care about any team until the finals. The only Rocks player I heard that has played for another team is Gareth Murray. I didnt know EJ played for another BBL team till he retired. |
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Post by spaghettihoops on Mar 12, 2019 6:53:29 GMT
So by my understanding BBL Salary cap rules are £200k per year per roster not including the two highest paid British players. So we assume that MBA and Hamilton are on big bucks and then the £200k maxed out? I'd never actually heard of the salary cap before so this is interesting if true. It hadn't really seemed probable that any teams would be in a position to be paying so much to necessitate one! |
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