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Post by baldereagle on Apr 30, 2019 20:37:55 GMT
Excuse my ignorance but when / where are we going to hear the MVP announcement and on whose votes is it based - just the 12 coaches ?
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Post by davef on Apr 30, 2019 22:03:58 GMT
Normally last week of season
Coaches vote for 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. 3 points for first, 2 for second, 1 for third. Most points wins.
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Post by baldereagle on May 2, 2019 7:10:36 GMT
Thanks Dave
Are coaches allowed to vote for their own players ?
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Post by davef on May 2, 2019 11:14:48 GMT
No.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 19:50:21 GMT
BBJA MVP voteBBL MVP - Justin Robinson COTY - Vince Macaulay Pete Jacques award - Jordan Spencer WBBL MVP - Cat Carr Syd Lipski International award - Gabe Olaseni
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Post by 2NFR on May 7, 2019 20:07:19 GMT
Sooo ... that's the Hack's choice ... Which is Fair enough  Will be interesting to see who the coaches choose for MVP ?  (...or have I got this all wrong, again !!)  |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 22:21:47 GMT
If Justin Robinson is awarded it then that shows that the league regular season is what matters to the BBL.
But... if they give it to Nicholas does that not undermine the league a little as his playoffs performances over the Lions would be what pushed him over the edge? If they give it to Nicholas, fine, but I'd want the BBL to acknowledge that the playoffs are the real championship.
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 7, 2019 23:24:00 GMT
Nicholas has been pretty bloody amazing all season, not just lately.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 0:22:43 GMT
Nicholas has been pretty bloody amazing all season, not just lately. Yeah but if you consider the regular season to be what matters, 8th isn't good enough for the league's most valuable player when it's out of 12 teams. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 6:13:19 GMT
Nicholas has been pretty bloody amazing all season, not just lately. Yeah but if you consider the regular season to be what matters, 8th isn't good enough for the league's most valuable player when it's out of 12 teams. We were 2 wins from finishing 4th. While i agree that the MVP should be a higher seed really, this has been the most competitive league I've ever seen |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 8, 2019 7:24:28 GMT
Robinson just won the MVP voted by journalists etc (I think)
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 10:00:33 GMT
Robinson just won the MVP voted by journalists etc (I think) He did, all brits were voted their tho weren't they? |
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 8, 2019 14:25:39 GMT
Nicholas has been pretty bloody amazing all season, not just lately. Yeah but if you consider the regular season to be what matters, 8th isn't good enough for the league's most valuable player when it's out of 12 teams. If we acknowledge that one player cannot make a silk purse out of a pig's ear then the final position of the team is virtually irrelevant, isn't it? Raiders just knocked out Lions with the most likely MVP candidate and wasn't that hugely down to Nicholas? Which player do coaches consider the most valuable asset is what coaches will be judging. For me it's definitely Nicholas. Would I rather Robinson at Riders or Nicholas? The latter. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 15:30:33 GMT
Yeah but if you consider the regular season to be what matters, 8th isn't good enough for the league's most valuable player when it's out of 12 teams. If we acknowledge that one player cannot make a silk purse out of a pig's ear then the final position of the team is virtually irrelevant, isn't it? Raiders just knocked out Lions with the most likely MVP candidate and wasn't that hugely down to Nicholas? Which player do coaches consider the most valuable asset is what coaches will be judging. For me it's definitely Nicholas. Would I rather Robinson at Riders or Nicholas? The latter. This is exactly my point! Is Nicholas is considered MVP over Robinson does that devalue the regular season as the example you and others will use to justify the pick would be the playoff result. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 15:49:54 GMT
Even with the playoff result Raiders are still sub 500 for this season. If we assume Nicholas is MVP worthy then the rest of the team must be appalling.
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 8, 2019 15:56:43 GMT
Yeah but if you consider the regular season to be what matters, 8th isn't good enough for the league's most valuable player when it's out of 12 teams. If we acknowledge that one player cannot make a silk purse out of a pig's ear then the final position of the team is virtually irrelevant, isn't it? Raiders just knocked out Lions with the most likely MVP candidate and wasn't that hugely down to Nicholas? Which player do coaches consider the most valuable asset is what coaches will be judging. For me it's definitely Nicholas. Would I rather Robinson at Riders or Nicholas? The latter. Robinson every day of the week for me at Riders |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on May 8, 2019 18:34:50 GMT
I'd much, much rather have Robinson than Nicholas. Top drawer Brits are game changers in this league. I don't think it's at all hard to imagine Raiders having another season like this next year, with or without Nicholas. Without Robinson, Lions' prospects of replicating this season's success would be slim to none.
Regarding the BBJA awards, can anyone explain to me how Jordan Spencer has been adjudged the league's best British player when he's not even deemed the best Brit on his own team? Ever so slightly daft that, no?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 18:52:50 GMT
I'd much, much rather have Robinson than Nicholas. Top drawer Brits are game changers in this league. I don't think it's at all hard to imagine Raiders having another season like this next year, with or without Nicholas. Without Robinson, Lions' prospects of replicating this season's success would be slim to none. Regarding the BBJA awards, can anyone explain to me how Jordan Spencer has been adjudged the league's best British player when he's not even deemed the best Brit on his own team? Ever so slightly daft that, no? The criteria seems a bit muddy... Or deliberately confusing "Best British Player, awarded to a contributor who has made an unexpected impact on the BBL." Robinson certainly fits the former but not the latter. Not sure if Spencer fits either? |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on May 8, 2019 19:24:05 GMT
Definitely one of the more ambiguously worded descriptions of an award that you're likely to read. Having glanced at a list of past winners (which includes the likes of James Jones and Jamell Anderson) it seems that being British and not having won their MVP award are about the only discernible criteria.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 20:29:50 GMT
If we acknowledge that one player cannot make a silk purse out of a pig's ear then the final position of the team is virtually irrelevant, isn't it? Raiders just knocked out Lions with the most likely MVP candidate and wasn't that hugely down to Nicholas? Which player do coaches consider the most valuable asset is what coaches will be judging. For me it's definitely Nicholas. Would I rather Robinson at Riders or Nicholas? The latter. Robinson every day of the week for me at Riders But hes a point guard, he wouldn't last a week with you guys and the curse |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 9, 2019 4:50:34 GMT
I'd much, much rather have Robinson than Nicholas. Top drawer Brits are game changers in this league. I don't think it's at all hard to imagine Raiders having another season like this next year, with or without Nicholas. Without Robinson, Lions' prospects of replicating this season's success would be slim to none. Regarding the BBJA awards, can anyone explain to me how Jordan Spencer has been adjudged the league's best British player when he's not even deemed the best Brit on his own team? Ever so slightly daft that, no? The criteria seems a bit muddy... Or deliberately confusing "Best British Player, awarded to a contributor who has made an unexpected impact on the BBL." Robinson certainly fits the former but not the latter. Not sure if Spencer fits either? It sounds more like most improved player?? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 9, 2019 4:51:59 GMT
Robinson every day of the week for me at Riders But hes a point guard, he wouldn't last a week with you guys and the curse There's no curse. You just have to put the team first ahead of your stats. Robinson could do that I'm sure. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 5:01:07 GMT
Theres definitely a point guard curse in Leicester mate
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 9, 2019 5:08:40 GMT
Theres definitely a point guard curse in Leicester mate If we are cursed then I genuinely feel sorry for all the other BBL clubs |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 6:16:08 GMT
Theres definitely a point guard curse in Leicester mate If we are cursed then I genuinely feel sorry for all the other BBL clubs You feel sorry for our point guards lasting a full season without getting injured ? Strange one that |
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