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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 18:46:20 GMT
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 12, 2019 18:48:54 GMT
Riders to find a way to beat the new Team Hollywood
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 19:10:51 GMT
It would be better for the BBL to have a team with sustained success, and is a well run & sustainable club with the trophy and be crowned champions.
Is there any certainty that LCR will even exist next season?
Based on their attendances, and lack of commercial backing, there have to be doubts about their viability as a business.
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 12, 2019 19:13:21 GMT
I'm surprised the vote is so close (so far)
I thought most would go for Royals
Tbf even I can see why people would vote for Royals.
I'm just hoping we can find a way to beat them
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 12, 2019 19:14:03 GMT
It would be better for the BBL to have a team with sustained success, and is a well run & sustainable club with the trophy and be crowned champions. Is there any certainty that LCR will even exist next season? Based on their attendances, and lack of commercial backing, there have to be doubts about their viability as a business. Well someone has paid the bills this season. They may bankroll them again. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 12, 2019 19:31:33 GMT
A lot will depend on the fitness of Hampton & Williams. We need their inside presence at both ends of the court.
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 12, 2019 19:37:51 GMT
A lot will depend on the fitness of Hampton & Williams. We need their inside presence at both ends of the court. For sure |
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Post by stevetino on May 12, 2019 19:38:46 GMT
Riders to find a way to beat the new Team Hollywood Royals all day long |
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Post by rideralex on May 12, 2019 19:39:02 GMT
It would be better for the BBL to have a team with sustained success, and is a well run & sustainable club with the trophy and be crowned champions. Is there any certainty that LCR will even exist next season? Based on their attendances, and lack of commercial backing, there have to be doubts about their viability as a business. Well someone has paid the bills this season. They may bankroll them again. I'd certainly hope that anyone who would bankroll a team to the extent that Royals have been based upon the alleged salaries they are paying would have realised that there was next to no chance that the team would be self sustaining within 12 months. The issue is whether whoever is bankrolling is happy with the minimal progress they have made in running a viable business or whether they continue to be interested in whatever they are getting out of financing Royals. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 19:40:56 GMT
Congratulations to the Royals on winning two trophies this season. Hopefully the franchise can improve off the success of being Trophy and Playoff winners in their inaugural season. It’s good to see a team join the BBL and not be the whipping boys.
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Post by saintpat on May 12, 2019 20:05:03 GMT
Nooooooo!!!
How can this happen???
It's the Brexit final!! I demand a new vote!!!
Who cares who wins, both clubs are the devil incarnate!!!
I might go just to boo both sets of players!
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 12, 2019 20:09:59 GMT
Nooooooo!!! How can this happen??? It's the Brexit final!! I demand a new vote!!! Who cares who wins, both clubs are the devil incarnate!!! I might go just to boo both sets of players! Now be honest with yourself Saintpat, doesn't a little teensy weensy part of you want Riders to stop Royals from gaining two pieces of silverware? |
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Post by notoriousbigz on May 12, 2019 21:54:58 GMT
I just can't wait to see Williams go up against MBA.
We should probably enjoy them both whilst they last, can't see Williams being around next season and as for MBA.... well let's just wait and see.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 22:34:38 GMT
Is the vote for who we want to win or who we think will win?
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Post by allstring on May 12, 2019 23:28:50 GMT
It would be better for the BBL to have a team with sustained success, and is a well run & sustainable club with the trophy and be crowned champions. Is there any certainty that LCR will even exist next season? Based on their attendances, and lack of commercial backing, there have to be doubts about their viability as a business. For a first year team the attendances aren't bad, yesterdays crowd was pretty good and created a excellent atmosphere. A £10 adult charge may be a sign that they recognise a need to address the entry costs ... although they have jumped from too high to too low! Whilst brash with their comments they've walked the walk. A trophy, two finals and a top 4 finish only surpassed by the Lions. Few believed MBA would play the whole season. There were doubters that he and Hamilton would play in the same team (Hamilton to replace MBA post his injury recovery). It appears all the players have been paid and they will complete the season. They put together the team around the objective of returning local talent and they've certainly been true to their word. For a first year team they appear to have a strong foundation. Even the longest their opponents this coming season were near the brink not too many years ago despite being the longest established club. Sure there's lots to do including around the grass roots level to link to their "local" basis. The club is obviously being funded successfully at present. Only those in the know can determine how sustainable that is. But it's not unusual for sports teams to be funded by beneficiaries. John Nike's arrival in Bracknell took the team forward to a top national side as he funded them for 20 years. With his clashes with the tax man I think his investment dwindled towards the end as the Tigers fell down the pecking order. But interestingly when Mike Davies rescued the team to Guildford, he had a model in place that enabled him to lead the Heat to national titles. Which seems to be the polar opposite of the other Tigers in Liverpool once their funding was pulled. In Ice Hockey it is the Hepburn money that bankrolls the Guildford Flames. John Nike did similar with the Bracknell Bees. I'll be honest that I suspect the Royals are very dependant on the source of this funding, but without knowing it's origin it's hard to determine what is the future risk to the Royals. They don't have to pay the alleged salaries of MBA and Hamilton; they are replaceable with far cheaper Americans if finances forced it. Whilst those Americans exist, finding them if MBA and Hamilton didn't return is a far more difficult issue. Everything (the vibes from the club, I don't have a scooby about the true finances) points to a return next season; I'd guess Season 3 is likely to tell us more about future sustainability. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 13, 2019 4:59:42 GMT
It would be better for the BBL to have a team with sustained success, and is a well run & sustainable club with the trophy and be crowned champions. Is there any certainty that LCR will even exist next season? Based on their attendances, and lack of commercial backing, there have to be doubts about their viability as a business. For a first year team the attendances aren't bad, yesterdays crowd was pretty good and created a excellent atmosphere. A £10 adult charge may be a sign that they recognise a need to address the entry costs ... although they have jumped from too high to too low! Whilst brash with their comments they've walked the walk. A trophy, two finals and a top 4 finish only surpassed by the Lions. Few believed MBA would play the whole season. There were doubters that he and Hamilton would play in the same team (Hamilton to replace MBA post his injury recovery). It appears all the players have been paid and they will complete the season. They put together the team around the objective of returning local talent and they've certainly been true to their word. For a first year team they appear to have a strong foundation. Even the longest their opponents this coming season were near the brink not too many years ago despite being the longest established club. Sure there's lots to do including around the grass roots level to link to their "local" basis. The club is obviously being funded successfully at present. Only those in the know can determine how sustainable that is. But it's not unusual for sports teams to be funded by beneficiaries. John Nike's arrival in Bracknell took the team forward to a top national side as he funded them for 20 years. With his clashes with the tax man I think his investment dwindled towards the end as the Tigers fell down the pecking order. But interestingly when Mike Davies rescued the team to Guildford, he had a model in place that enabled him to lead the Heat to national titles. Which seems to be the polar opposite of the other Tigers in Liverpool once their funding was pulled. In Ice Hockey it is the Hepburn money that bankrolls the Guildford Flames. John Nike did similar with the Bracknell Bees. I'll be honest that I suspect the Royals are very dependant on the source of this funding, but without knowing it's origin it's hard to determine what is the future risk to the Royals. They don't have to pay the alleged salaries of MBA and Hamilton; they are replaceable with far cheaper Americans if finances forced it. Whilst those Americans exist, finding them if MBA and Hamilton didn't return is a far more difficult issue. Everything (the vibes from the club, I don't have a scooby about the true finances) points to a return next season; I'd guess Season 3 is likely to tell us more about future sustainability. Tbf earlier in the season the rumour on here was MBA wouldn't even last the season They've done better than we expected already |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 13, 2019 6:45:58 GMT
Spookily close aggregate scorelines to reach the final for both teams in both the quarter finals and semi finals
141 Riders
140 Royals
Quarter final
155 Riders
154 Royals
Semi final
Maybe it's an omen that we are set for a really close and competitive final?
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Post by leamrider2 on May 13, 2019 7:11:56 GMT
Should be a good game. Looking forward to it.
Longest established club with a fantastic record over the last six or seven seasons and with a wider programme that is hoovering up the trophies at university, college and youth levels
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Newcomer with strong financial backing that has paid wages other clubs simply can't match but which may not last beyond season two or three.
Is that how it will appear in the match-day programme? LOL.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 7:28:30 GMT
Is the vote for who we want to win or who we think will win? Should be think, but I didn't make it clear at all. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 8:28:47 GMT
Should be a good game. Looking forward to it. Longest established club with a fantastic record over the last six or seven seasons and with a wider programme that is hoovering up the trophies at university, college and youth levels versus Newcomer with strong financial backing that has paid wages other clubs simply can't match but which may not last beyond season two or three. Is that how it will appear in the match-day programme? LOL. The wise old heads vs the young upstarts? I'm hoping they go for a British angle. The number of Brits who will play an influential part in the final is encouraging. |
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Post by DefyingGravity on May 13, 2019 8:56:32 GMT
Think we will see Royals take this one. I don't really care what team wins, but hopefully it will be a good game to watch as a neutral.
The Royals are apparently set to lose £350k this year, not sure what this is based on. It was just something I heard. Also heard MBA is on £6k per month. Again, may not be accurate.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 10:23:11 GMT
6k a month isn't exactly an impressive salary by London standards. Hopefully more clubs will be able to pay figures like that in the future.
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Post by LTFan on May 13, 2019 13:10:44 GMT
Is it possible for both teams to lose please?
Ok, if I’m reluctantly going to pick a side in this I’ll support the London City Royals.
As much as I don’t want them to win 2 titles in their inaugural season, I’d like Riders to not win a single title even more. And I am a Londoner after all, so time to put aside the rivalry and show some solidarity. Just for one game.
Should be a good game for the O2 crowd and the BBC cameras though.
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Post by LTFan on May 13, 2019 13:12:49 GMT
Nooooooo!!! How can this happen??? It's the Brexit final!! I demand a new vote!!! Who cares who wins, both clubs are the devil incarnate!!! I might go just to boo both sets of players! Go on, if you had pick a team to support, who would you choose? I’ve done it!  What would you dislike more… Royals winning 2 titles, or Riders avoiding a first title-less season in years? |
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Post by stevetino on May 13, 2019 21:09:00 GMT
Go er um (the refs? 🤣)
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