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Post by stevetheballer on Sept 3, 2019 19:15:47 GMT
Thoughts fellow Whatsbever’s.
Where do you even start, can’t replace Fab so guess take a new direction.
Am sure this has been known for a while by the club and they have a few candidates in my mind.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 19:23:52 GMT
Thoughts fellow Whatsbever’s. Where do you even start, can’t replace Fab so guess take a new direction. Am sure this has been known for a while by the club and they have a few candidates in my mind. Not so sure re the timing and knowing for a while As I said in the other thread Newby would have been a good candidate for this
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Post by blueskies99 on Sept 3, 2019 19:23:57 GMT
Surely the guy who has been assistant for the last 3/4 years is in the driving seat! Apologies to the Eagles but I can't remember his name........its me age.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 19:24:39 GMT
I will put Drew Sullivan's name forward
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 19:27:52 GMT
Ian Mccloud surely has the job
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Post by isthaturinal on Sept 3, 2019 19:35:08 GMT
Ian Mccloud surely has the job Don’t call him Shirley. Why not give Eddie Matthews a go at it, he won’t be doing anything else all season apart from bench warming. Wait for all the Sharks fans on here saying please take Atiba.
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Post by mitchmitchell21 on Sept 3, 2019 19:35:38 GMT
Tony garbelotto,
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Post by stevetheballer on Sept 3, 2019 19:35:54 GMT
Ian Macleod is a possibility, can he be a head coach though? At least he knows the Eagles and is not new to the club.
Andrew Sullivan, maybe. Coffino, maybe. Marc Steutal who used to coach Northumbria Uni and is now a GB Men’s assistant coach. Gary Stronach, I know has been mentioned previously and is living in the North East I think, comes to the games.
Hope we don’t have long to wait to find out who our new coach is.
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Post by mark on Sept 3, 2019 19:46:25 GMT
Would love to see Andreas Kapoulas in the role. Always been impressed with the way Bristol have been coached when they play in Newcastle. Give him a larger budget & I bet he could pull a championship team together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 20:05:41 GMT
Ian Mccloud surely has the job Don’t call him Shirley. Why not give Eddie Matthews a go at it, he won’t be doing anything else all season apart from bench warming. Wait for all the Sharks fans on here saying please take Atiba. Doesnt he hand out the water as well?
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Post by padaceth on Sept 3, 2019 21:21:16 GMT
In view of the fact that the team has been recruited to Fab's style and system of play I would say that this season the team is coached by Ian who else knows the team and system better than the current assistants. If Ian does a good job then the position becomes permanent next year if not then at the end of the season we can look for a new head coach who can select their own team to fit their system.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 21:28:00 GMT
In view of the fact that the team has been recruited to Fab's style and system of play I would say that this season the team is coached by Ian who else knows the team and system better than the current assistants. If Ian does a good job then the position becomes permanent next year if not then at the end of the season we can look for a new head coach who can select their own team to fit their system. You could also argue: That style and system of play has not been successful (in eagle's terms) for over 3 years now So the alternative is this season is the chance to change the way eagles play They've got a deeper squad already so maybe a new way of playing at same time
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Post by raiders92 on Sept 3, 2019 21:30:00 GMT
I'm going forrester and Charlie buckets loved watching him play even though 9/10 It was him arrogantly scoring 30 on the raiders!! Kinda miss that and dougie the drummer
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 22:13:01 GMT
Sterling Davis
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Post by gloryeagle on Sept 3, 2019 22:54:20 GMT
Those who were around at the time how/why did things end with Eagles and Tony G?
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Post by dazzle on Sept 4, 2019 5:11:03 GMT
For me it's either going to be McLeod or an outside bet of Charles Smith. Either way a sad day
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 5:16:19 GMT
For me it's either going to be McLeod or an outside bet of Charles Smith. Either way a sad day If it's McLeod you've created a huge budget and accommodation opportunity for a new GB player to join. McLeod is already going to be salaried to some extent and I assume lives in the area already. He would want more money of course but way cheaper than bringing an outsider in. And you only have 11 players signed without Fab More budget to divert to players plus an empty penthouse flat! That's got MBA all over it!! (Or even Ovie Soko) A different way to spend the budget. Fab was no doubt one of the best paid people in BBL. Not on MBA money but would be a good chunk of it There's definitely an opportunity here for Eagles management and owner now Just saying......... The timing also suggests something is afoot. Watch this space! Statement signing still possible now! "The king is dead long live the king"
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 5:20:46 GMT
Dp
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 5:33:02 GMT
“I enjoyed the NBA Playoffs and the summer league campaign with Toronto in Las Vegas but returned to Newcastle with no thought in my mind that I’d be offered a full-time post.
“Having said that Nick has been plugging away at me for a few years – even before he became Raptors’ head coach – asking me when I was going to take on a new challenge.
“In the end Paul and Dave [Forrester, Newcastle assistant coach] realised there might be an opportunity there for me and they encouraged me to look at it seriously."
That last paragraph makes very interesting reading to me
As I said immediately the news came out. This represents a great opportunity to Fab AND a great opportunity for Eagles
Fab moving to Canada very much suits both sides at this particular stage I think. And the above certainly suggests the Eagles management team played a role in making this happen
I'm expecting a statement signing next
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Post by baldeagle on Sept 4, 2019 6:07:38 GMT
More nonsense INF.
The idea that Eagles wanted Fab to leave is laughable. But after 17/18 years The club knew this would happen one day and would not stand in the way of an offer from the NBA.
Most folk can see that. One day it will be Paternostro and I will be the first to pay tribute to the job he has done and wish him the best without imputing conspiracy theories to his departure.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 6:14:31 GMT
More nonsense INF. The idea that Eagles wanted Fab to leave is laughable. But after 17/18 years The club knew this would happen one day and would not stand in the way of an offer from the NBA. Most folk can see that. One day it will be Paternostro and I will be the first to pay tribute to the job he has done and wish him the best without imputing conspiracy theories to his departure. This is one of the few sports forums where people don't like to speculate or gossip about what has actually happened at some of their clubs?? I find it fascinating and strange. Lots of gossip about certain things but involve eagles or Fab and it all goes very defensive? It's sport - it's not life and death Some times a move can suit both the club and the player or the coach And more than once on here Eagles fans themselves have suggested the best thing that could happen is Fab gets an offer in Canada Let's not pretend that hasn't been said on here by more than one eagles poster 100 per cent wish Fab well and thank him for his service 100 per cent he's an Eagles legend and hall of famer 100 per cent he is probably the biggest and best contributor to BBL enjoyment for two decades 100 per cent wish him the best of luck in Canada But I'm not making stuff up. This is word for word taken from Eagles website: Quote “In the end Paul and Dave [Forrester, Newcastle assistant coach] realised there might be an opportunity there for me and they encouraged me to look at it seriously." If that is all nonsense then blame Fab and Eagles website for the nonsense. Don't blame me?? I know enough about sport to know what goes on behind the scenes Fab can earn more money in Canada and create a bigger and better career. And Eagles can try something new at the same time. Big budget available to Eagles to do so. It all makes perfect sense for all concerned. And isn't really a conspiracy at all. It's just sport and it's good business for all concerned. I would expect the money created from this opportunity to be re-invested in the squad And I expect it will give you more chance of winning trophies as a result That's sport. Am I wrong ? Don't you ever see football managers actively driving up the reputation of players and encouraging bids for them - so they can re-invest elsewhere. Fab was a brilliant player coach. Best paid in BBL. Now he's just a coach and eagles aren't winning trophies any more. The time was right for a change. And this opportunity might not always be there. It's a no brainer for everybody involved. If it makes you feel happier that this all happened against the club's wishes and they were desperate for Fab to turn the move down -then go ahead and think that. The timing was right for all concerned. I say what I see. And back it up with detail. Detail from Fabs own mouth and eagles own website. This move suited eagles. And none of the detracts at all from the incredible service he gave them and debt they owe him. It's just the real world at work
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 6:27:03 GMT
More nonsense INF. The idea that Eagles wanted Fab to leave is laughable. But after 17/18 years The club knew this would happen one day and would not stand in the way of an offer from the NBA. Most folk can see that. One day it will be Paternostro and I will be the first to pay tribute to the job he has done and wish him the best without imputing conspiracy theories to his departure. With Rob we aren't at the stage where we might want to re-invest the money we spend on him elsewhere. He is Leicester Riders and everything we do relies and revolves around him. We would do our utmost to keep him. We certainly wouldn't encourage him to look at other options. And sadly at some stage he might get an offer he can't refuse or we can't compete with. It's a different situation entirely as things stand
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Post by davef on Sept 4, 2019 6:59:38 GMT
I’m the Dave mentioned above
You ask am I wrong.?
100 per cent categorically yes
Perhaps now you can stop opining on something you have absolutely no knowledge of? For your own sake?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 7:14:13 GMT
I’m the Dave mentioned above You ask am I wrong.? 100 per cent categorically yes Perhaps now you can stop opining on something you have absolutely no knowledge of? For your own sake? Dave - I am a sports fan 100 per cent entitled to make comment about what I see and read. That's why I joined this forum. Or do you only want comments that you like to read on here? I am not being abusive and I am not claiming anything underhand or dishonest. I simply dared to suggest that this move right now suits all concerned. I believe that is totally fair comment. If you don't like my observations I suggest you change the article and Fab's quote on your own website Have you even read it? The move is a great opportunity for Fab. It also allows Eagles to move in other directions. If you had just won the sweep the last 4 seasons you might be more keen to keep the status quo. But even then you can't compete with NBA tbf. That is sport and it happens all the time No need for anybody to be precious about it at all. Now if I just said all the above without the eagles comments from Fab then fair enough - I'm being a mischief maker again Maybe Fab has been misquoted by your own website? What are you worried about? He's gone and it's the right decision. An opportunity he couldn't turn down. Even if yourself and your owner had to help him realise the opportunity and go and pursue that opportunity. You've done the right thing for him for his long term future. No doubt about that at all. So much more income for him in NBA. He would be mad not to take the opportunity. But this is a sports forum. It's free speech. And like I say. This move suits Fab. This move at the same time provides Eagles opportunities to spend their money allocated on Fab in other directions. That's sport. Stop being so defensive about it all. It's not life and death I think this move is good for Fab and an opportunity for your club to have more chance of winning trophies again That's not a comment for me to be embarrassed about. It's not abusive, It's opinion on a sports forum. What are you scared of?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 4, 2019 7:25:12 GMT
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“I enjoyed the NBA Playoffs and the summer league campaign with Toronto in Las Vegas but returned to Newcastle with no thought in my mind that I’d be offered a full-time post.
“Having said that Nick has been plugging away at me for a few years – even before he became Raptors’ head coach – asking me when I was going to take on a new challenge.
“In the end Paul and Dave [Forrester, Newcastle assistant coach] realised there might be an opportunity there for me and they encouraged me to look at it seriously."
Would you like to comment on those paragraphs Dave in your own words? That's not Raptors making a full time offer and you not standing in his way is it? That's you guys saying there might be an opportunity he should try and pursue? What have I missed ?
That's Fab who said that not me. And it's taken direct from your wesbite. It certainly suggests that you and Paul actively encouraged Fab to pursue a potential full time opportunity with Raptor?
Set the record straight if you want and I won't ever say another word about Fab if it makes you feel better?
But I've been a sports fan for 40 years now and I know how that above reads to me. You don't have to know basketball inside out to know how sports works. Tough decisions happen all the time. You've not forced Fab out. Far from it.
But I do believe the move suits both parties at this stage. Simple as that.
Correct the quotes and I promise I will never mention Fabs name again on here.
You have the final say.
I think thats fair enough. You know him better than anyone. I accept that. But that doesn't change the fact that all good things come to an end at some stage.
You have the final word on Fab. You are entitled to it. And I will just accept whatever you say and move on.
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