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Post by ko25 on Feb 12, 2020 9:22:08 GMT
Sun 16th Feb - Flyers v Kestrels 5:30pm
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 13, 2020 12:09:35 GMT
They should just cancel the game and save everybody the effort of getting there
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 17:14:03 GMT
Wouldn't homecourt advantage mean anything, like was it just a fluke, or can lightning strike twice.
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Post by davetwt on Feb 14, 2020 10:42:52 GMT
come on Kestrels
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Post by sigma on Feb 16, 2020 13:01:11 GMT
Today's the day! 5.15pm tip. Go Kestrels!
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Post by benji on Feb 16, 2020 17:15:56 GMT
Here we go! Let's go Kestrels!
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 16, 2020 17:29:46 GMT
I'm getting scoreline only
No pictures - might be a wise move by Flyers TBH
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Post by sonjel on Feb 16, 2020 17:32:42 GMT
I'm getting scoreline only No pictures - might be a wise move by Flyers TBH I got picture |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Feb 16, 2020 17:43:23 GMT
I'm getting scoreline only No pictures - might be a wise move by Flyers TBH I got picture Got it now |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Feb 16, 2020 17:55:59 GMT
Referees giving absolutely nothing to solent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 19:13:41 GMT
Well done Kestrels
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Post by benji on Feb 16, 2020 19:28:33 GMT
Congratulations Solent. They'll struggle in the final but will probably go out fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 19:57:32 GMT
A big win for both teams but one is out.
Get rid of aggregate scoring in ALL competitions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 21:03:03 GMT
Maybe your team should have played a bit harder in the 1st leg. Just a thought
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 21:05:53 GMT
Referees giving absolutely nothing to solent. Pretty standard for a BBL Trophy game. Our game against Surrey still pisses me off and I vowed we'd never enter again after that. Obviously we did. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 23:22:05 GMT
Maybe your team should have played a bit harder in the 1st leg. Just a thought Absolutely should have, correct. Do you think aggregate is good for basketball? |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Feb 17, 2020 7:48:18 GMT
Maybe your team should have played a bit harder in the 1st leg. Just a thought Absolutely should have, correct. Do you think aggregate is good for basketball? If its good enough for the Basketball Champions League, its good enough for the BBL.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 13:56:46 GMT
Absolutely should have, correct. Do you think aggregate is good for basketball? If its good enough for the Basketball Champions League, its good enough for the BBL.... Disagree. Just because something is done wrong at a higher level doesn't mean you should do it wrong here too. Would you feel it was a justified loss if your team won a first leg by 2 and lost the second by 3? Or won the first leg by 30 and lost the second by 31?... On this occasion there was a larger deficit than that so it's less of an issue but it's still two convincing results. Additionally it removes the end of game sportsmanship of emptying the bench and holding the ball instead of taking another shot with seconds to go. Besides, I asked if it was good for basketball, not just "good enough". |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Feb 17, 2020 14:10:38 GMT
If its good enough for the Basketball Champions League, its good enough for the BBL.... Disagree. Just because something is done wrong at a higher level doesn't mean you should do it wrong here too. Would you feel it was a justified loss if your team won a first leg by 2 and lost the second by 3? Or won the first leg by 30 and lost the second by 31?... On this occasion there was a larger deficit than that so it's less of an issue but it's still two convincing results. Additionally it removes the end of game sportsmanship of emptying the bench and holding the ball instead of taking another shot with seconds to go. Besides, I asked if it was good for basketball, not just "good enough".
It's not done wrong as far as I'm concerned. For the sake of knockout basketball it works perfectly well. I think playoff basketball is a different issue because I like to think that Playoff basketball should be the pinnacle of a season and can be spread over a higher number of games, but I like that the BBL's thrown a bit of both in this year - stretching a cup semi final out to a three game series just seems OTT to me - especially when the final is just one game.
Yes to both scenarios you describe. If you win a first leg by 30 and then lose the second by 31 you've only yourself to blame. It may be a little harsher to have won a game by 2 and lose the overall tie having lost by 3 in the second game but what's so different to losing a single game by a point? In the alternative - how is winning game 1 of a three game series by 30 and losing the next two games by a single point any less fair/unfair?
That leaves the "sportsmanship" argument, which I think is a bit of a b*llocks anyway. Honestly I wont be offended if someone were to take a final shot whether I'm up or down 20/30 or not. Its basketball. Play until the buzzer sounds as far as I'm concerned, and if you want to run it out then cool.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Feb 17, 2020 16:19:12 GMT
That leaves the "sportsmanship" argument, which I think is a bit of a b*llocks anyway. Honestly I wont be offended if someone were to take a final shot whether I'm up or down 20/30 or not. Its basketball. Play until the buzzer sounds as far as I'm concerned, and if you want to run it out then cool.
Happened in our game last night. 6 seconds left, Frazer was just bouncing ball, PJC sneaked in from behind took the ball turned and sank a three. Frazer was not happy moaned all the time that was left and after the final whistle. It's a 40 minute game and this season Ben Thomas has been pushing to play to the end in case of points difference affecting final position so PJC did. I Suppose that Frazer did have a point as Nix was 19 points behind at the time and they'd lost the first game by 13 earlier in the season anyway. |
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Post by drcaligari on Feb 18, 2020 9:17:58 GMT
Referees giving absolutely nothing to solent. Pretty standard for a BBL Trophy game. Our game against Surrey still pisses me off and I vowed we'd never enter again after that. Obviously we did. Refs were an absolute disgrace, giving absolutely unnecessary and unjustified technicals to Solent to make sure that they 'knew their place' - at one point a referee was heard to say 'this is the BBL not the NBL' - it was an embarrassment |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 9:27:02 GMT
That's pretty standard for a BBL v NBL game. Some of the refs seem to think it's a bigger deal that they're in the BBL than the plyers do. An NBL team needs to be significantly better to get a win because they won't get a call.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 9:33:10 GMT
Maybe your team should have played a bit harder in the 1st leg. Just a thought Absolutely should have, correct. Do you think aggregate is good for basketball? Absolutely not. I've never hidden my loathing of it. And you've effectively got it in league games now you're only playing each other twice. Decisions made by the BBL owners, including Lansdown.
But your team knew the rules at the start of the game and your coach has more experience of it in knockout competitions. They should have been capable of keeping within touching distance of a D1 team to ensure the second leg was relevant. I don't think you can read anything into Sunday's game. It was 40 minutes of garbage time.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Feb 18, 2020 9:34:45 GMT
Pretty standard for a BBL Trophy game. Our game against Surrey still pisses me off and I vowed we'd never enter again after that. Obviously we did. Refs were an absolute disgrace, giving absolutely unnecessary and unjustified technicals to Solent to make sure that they 'knew their place' - at one point a referee was heard to say 'this is the BBL not the NBL' - it was an embarrassment You tend to find that the sh*t referees in the BBL are the ones that are utter w*nkers as well.
I didn't always agree with Steve Wheatcroft for example, but he was one of the nicest people going and would always explain himself and why he made a call. I was ok with that.
Then there's the likes of Keith Williams, who was often flat out wrong and a massive tool as well. Once told me if I didn't shut my mouth hed make me "sit down and see the sights". I told him if he spoke to me like that away from basketball I'd slap the sh*t out of him. I ended up sat down haha......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 9:41:46 GMT
Pretty standard for a BBL Trophy game. Our game against Surrey still pisses me off and I vowed we'd never enter again after that. Obviously we did. Refs were an absolute disgrace, giving absolutely unnecessary and unjustified technicals to Solent to make sure that they 'knew their place' - at one point a referee was heard to say 'this is the BBL not the NBL' - it was an embarrassment The referees can't be held accountable for 19 points. But to be fair it is BBL and not NBL, he's not wrong there. |
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