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Post by drummergirl95 on Sept 22, 2020 13:04:34 GMT
Thanks Boris for pulling the one thing I and many others have been looking forward too! Why can’t everyone just do as there told, and then we can go back to some sort of normality! 😫😫😫😫  |
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Sept 22, 2020 13:29:38 GMT
Thanks Boris for pulling the one thing I and many others have been looking forward too! Why can’t everyone just do as there told, and then we can go back to some sort of normality! 😫😫😫😫 View AttachmentMost people did do as they were told, they went out to stimulate the economy, they returned to work, they returned to education. Fault lies at number 10. They’re framing it as the public’s fault but don’t fall for it. |
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Post by warewolf on Sept 22, 2020 13:48:03 GMT
Thanks Boris for pulling the one thing I and many others have been looking forward too! Why can’t everyone just do as there told, and then we can go back to some sort of normality! 😫😫😫😫 Most people did do as they were told, they went out to stimulate the economy, they returned to work, they returned to education. Fault lies at number 10. They’re framing it as the public’s fault but don’t fall for it. They seem to blame anyone but themselves, everyone else gets chucked under the bus. This is not a government, it is a clown show and if you elect a clown then dont be surprised when you end up with a circus. They seem to have the Midas touch in reverse... everything they touch turns to s**t. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 14:12:46 GMT
None of the Governments across the world have an answer for this
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Post by 12345 on Sept 22, 2020 14:13:51 GMT
OK so its time to stand together! If basketball is going to survive in this country we will need to make some active efforts to support it. I am an official and I am happy to work for free until full crowds are allowed back into games. Who else will join in by giving their free time to help a club or forgoing fees for things? Perhaps you can buy a season ticket even though you may not be able to use it? We are not going to get help from the government so must work together for the younger players and try to support our teams.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 14:19:52 GMT
OK so its time to stand together! If basketball is going to survive in this country we will need to make some active efforts to support it. I am an official and I am happy to work for free until full crowds are allowed back into games. Who else will join in by giving their free time to help a club or forgoing fees for things? Perhaps you can buy a season ticket even though you may not be able to use it? We are not going to get help from the government so must work together for the younger players and try to support our teams. Assuming that's a genuine offer you will need the coaches, players and admin staff on board with you. Some clubs will need landlords on board for their accommodation etc And how far do you have to travel for games. Are you happy to pay your own petrol etc? If there is a viable plan for Leicester Riders to play games every week behind closed doors I will buy a season ticket and gladly accept live streaming instead of being at the game live I seriously doubt there's any financial viability in it myself for the clubs |
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Post by stevetheballer on Sept 22, 2020 14:25:16 GMT
I have said it before and will say it again, I want to keep my club alive and the game in this country and if that means I can only watch live streams of the games and pay for each game online for the foreseeable future then so be it.
Some basketball is better than no basketball so if this is a viable option then let’s do it. The Eagles vs Sharks game on Friday proved that it can be.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 14:30:16 GMT
I have said it before and will say it again, I want to keep my club alive and the game in this country and if that means I can only watch live streams of the games and pay for each game online for the foreseeable future then so be it. Some basketball is better than no basketball so if this is a viable option then let’s do it. The Eagles vs Sharks game on Friday proved that it can be. It won't be viable financially unless everyone wants to play and coach basketball free of charge As I've said before live streaming income will barely cover the costs of away team travel at best If you do the maths |
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Post by 12345 on Sept 22, 2020 15:32:10 GMT
As I said, less of the negativity, and more support in any form to try to help. And yes IRF I will be out of pocket but am prepared to do that to help. I just want Lots of people who love this game to join me!!!!!
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 15:38:30 GMT
As I said, less of the negativity, and more support in any form to try to help. And yes IRF I will be out of pocket but am prepared to do that to help. I just want Lots of people who love this game to join me!!!!! It's a noble idea. For most involved basketball will be their only income though. I assume you must have another income to support you and pay the costs you would incur? |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 15:42:52 GMT
None of the Governments across the world have an answer for this Oh, come on. Apart from Trump and Bolsanaro we have the worst leader by far. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 15:49:27 GMT
None of the Governments across the world have an answer for this AUS/NZ haven't done bad. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 15:56:58 GMT
None of the Governments across the world have an answer for this Oh, come on. Apart from Trump and Bolsanaro we have the worst leader by far. I didn't say ours was any good. Just saying none of the rest have done any good. I'm not counting New Zealand in that. They've just shut off entirely. Australia just coming out of strict 6 week lockdown again for second time No easy answers for anybody |
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Post by 12345 on Sept 22, 2020 16:39:58 GMT
Sorry but I am not sure what sport you talk about when you say that basketball is the main source of income for most people involved! I am retired and have no other income but to get away from politics I know there are many people who would officiate for free and they are the real supporters. There are hundreds of people who coach, officiate administer basketball in this country for nothing more than a thank you. This is the last post I will put on here, I just thought as basketball fans you would perhaps have more compassion to help the sport
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 18:07:10 GMT
Sorry but I am not sure what sport you talk about when you say that basketball is the main source of income for most people involved! I am retired and have no other income but to get away from politics I know there are many people who would officiate for free and they are the real supporters. There are hundreds of people who coach, officiate administer basketball in this country for nothing more than a thank you. This is the last post I will put on here, I just thought as basketball fans you would perhaps have more compassion to help the sport You must have misunderstood my post Your fees as a ref will be a tiny fraction of the wages of the coaches, the players, the physios and the management and admin staff at each club I don't see many of them being in a position to play or work for free and I don't see many having an alternative income or big pot of money to fall back on? So whatever you as an official are willing to forego in terms of fees and travel costs etc is amazing but realistically a tiny drop in the ocean Even if all the officials were free of charge with no income from fans then unless all the above AND the bus drivers and coach companies and accommodation suppliers are all going to donate everything they do then your contribution won't be able to save a league from having to cancel Your lack of ability to understand that worries me if you really are an official ? Tbh If you want to be able to do something to help you need to be realistic about what's achievable It's a professional game with salaried staff and significant logistics costs? Are you getting mixed up with Basketball England and the kids game? |
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Post by dArtagnan on Sept 22, 2020 19:23:50 GMT
The statement from the government tonight is "No indoor team sports will be allowed ". This seems to suggest that the games next week will be off. If this extends for six months then there won't be any games this season....
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Post by Colicab85 on Sept 22, 2020 20:12:11 GMT
Oh, come on. Apart from Trump and Bolsanaro we have the worst leader by far. I didn't say ours was any good. Just saying none of the rest have done any good. I'm not counting New Zealand in that. They've just shut off entirely. Australia just coming out of strict 6 week lockdown again for second time No easy answers for anybody Why not include New Zealand? Is it cos it inconveniently contradicts your point? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 21:06:01 GMT
I didn't say ours was any good. Just saying none of the rest have done any good. I'm not counting New Zealand in that. They've just shut off entirely. Australia just coming out of strict 6 week lockdown again for second time No easy answers for anybody Why not include New Zealand? Is it cos it inconveniently contradicts your point? Lol - are you serious? 15 people per square kilometre in New Zealand 275 people per square kilometre in UK They've virtually closed their borders since Covid began They happen to be an island that only has close relationships with Australia They opted to shut themselves off from everybody How many places could take that choice ongoing? I guess we could but what a decision that would have been Nobody in or out ongoing? And the second they get a case out of the blue they go into strict lockdown You simply can't compare UK to New Zealand Nor any country in Europe to them They are a one off |
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Post by Colicab85 on Sept 22, 2020 21:27:48 GMT
I’m not saying that they are exactly like the UK in terms of country. But they are a country and have done a significantly better job than every other “major” country on earth.
Also, the population per square mile is meaningless when vast swathes are unpopulated and most people are crammed into cities and large towns.
Auckland has a population of 1.5 million. Covid could spread there quite easily.
It’s a fairly well held belief that New Zealand has dealt with it superbly and I stand by my point, the only reason you’re not is because it contradicts your point.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 21:33:36 GMT
I’m not saying that they are exactly like the UK in terms of country. But they are a country and have done a significantly better job than every other “major” country on earth. Also, the population per square mile is meaningless when vast swathes are unpopulated and most people are crammed into cities and large towns. Auckland has a population of 1.5 million. Covid could spread there quite easily. It’s a fairly well held belief that New Zealand has dealt with it superbly and I stand by my point, the only reason you’re not is because it contradicts your point. I wish we could be like them I guess a lot of us wish we could live there for a while at least! Im not ignoring them because it contradicts me. I'm ignoring them as we can't genuinely expect our government to stop anyone leaving or entering the country There would be uproar from all sides if we did I'm sure And if we went into strict lockdown every time we got a handful of cases then even worse It's just no comparison IMO But yes I admire how they've gone about stuff regardless Funnily enough even their lady in charge gets a lot of criticism in New Zealand so it just shows you can't please everybody |
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Post by LTFan on Sept 22, 2020 21:45:13 GMT
The statement from the government tonight is "No indoor team sports will be allowed ". This seems to suggest that the games next week will be off. If this extends for six months then there won't be any games this season.... Elite indoor sports and those played by children are exempt. And when you then look into the definition of an ‘elite athlete’ it therefore would suggest the BBL, and likely NBL Div1, are exempt. So that removes that issue. Still lots of other issues to overcome though if the BBL wants to start its season anytime soon. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 4:52:37 GMT
The statement from the government tonight is "No indoor team sports will be allowed ". This seems to suggest that the games next week will be off. If this extends for six months then there won't be any games this season.... Elite indoor sports and those played by children are exempt. And when you then look into the definition of an ‘elite athlete’ it therefore would suggest the BBL, and likely NBL Div1, are exempt. So that removes that issue. Still lots of other issues to overcome though if the BBL wants to start its season anytime soon. The below shows who will be classed as exempt in sport: For the purposes of this guidance the definition of an ‘elite athlete’ means a person who is: an individual who derives a living from competing in a sport a senior representative nominated by a relevant sporting body a member of the senior training squad for a relevant sporting body, or aged 16 or above and on an elite development pathway. For these purposes, a “relevant sporting body” is the national governing body of a sport which may nominate athletes to represent either (a) Great Britain and Northern Ireland at the Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games to be held in Tokyo, or the Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games to be held in Beijing, or (b) England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man at the Commonwealth Games to be held in Birmingham in those sports which are not part of the Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games programme. A “senior representative” means a person who is considered by a relevant sporting body to be a candidate to qualify to compete on behalf of (a) Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the Olympic and Paralympic Games to be held in Tokyo or Beijing, or (b) England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man at the Commonwealth Games to be held in Birmingham in those sports which are not part of the Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games programme. An “elite development pathway” means a development pathway established by the national governing body of a sport to prepare athletes (a) so that they may derive a living from competing in that sport, or (b) to compete in that sport in the Olympic or Paralympic Games. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 5:11:47 GMT
So in terms of elite basketball in UK the question becomes:
Which "elite" leagues and/or teams in those leagues are still viable for the next 6 months without income from paying supporters
I know we already lost one of the Women's Elite teams - could the Women's league operate without paying supporters?
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Post by warewolf on Sept 23, 2020 6:42:13 GMT
I suspect there may be some serious issues around sponsorship, companies are pulling their oars back into the boat. I imagine there will have to be a general review of the funding model as many small clubs could face insolvency without fan receipts or sponsorship.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 6:45:45 GMT
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