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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 23, 2020 17:46:38 GMT
I would be interested in hearing what would be everyone's preferred town/city/borough/club for the BBL's twelfth franchise, and the reason why.
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 23, 2020 17:49:31 GMT
One that had big money backers, an actual arena not plans for one, a long term strategy to build an audience and a high level coach.
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 23, 2020 18:00:05 GMT
One that had big money backers, an actual arena not plans for one, a long term strategy to build an audience and a high level coach. If you're insisting on an actual arena, the only one I can think of is the Marshall Arena, Milton Keynes. Hardly any British towns and cities have indoor sports arenas. |
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 23, 2020 18:14:44 GMT
Google england indoor arenas and there are plenty. Birmingham, Bolton, Derby, Exeter, Leeds, Liverpool, Milton Keynes,Nottingham, Cardiff, Newport & Aberdeen are the ones in cities that do not currently have a BBL franchise.
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 23, 2020 18:30:03 GMT
Google england indoor arenas and there are plenty. Birmingham, Bolton, Derby, Exeter, Leeds, Liverpool, Milton Keynes,Nottingham, Cardiff, Newport & Aberdeen are the ones in cities that do not currently have a BBL franchise. Have you actually looked at these arenas? Some are far too big. Some are really old. Some are in an auditorium layout for conferences and not suitable for basketball. The Derby Arena is a velodrome, so you would be sitting on the other side of a cycle track. In Britain we don't have indoor sports arenas like they have in Europe, America and Australia. There are a couple. Marshall Arena in Milton Keynes. The indoor arena that Wasps Netball uses, next to the Ricoh Arena, Coventry. I can't think of any others. |
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 23, 2020 19:22:07 GMT
I watched basketball inside a velodrome in Lithuania and it was an incredible atmosphere.
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Post by ko25 on Nov 23, 2020 20:00:52 GMT
Google england indoor arenas and there are plenty. Birmingham, Bolton, Derby, Exeter, Leeds, Liverpool, Milton Keynes,Nottingham, Cardiff, Newport & Aberdeen are the ones in cities that do not currently have a BBL franchise. Have you actually looked at these arenas? Some are far too big. Some are really old. Some are in an auditorium layout for conferences and not suitable for basketball. The Derby Arena is a velodrome, so you would be sitting on the other side of a cycle track. In Britain we don't have indoor sports arenas like they have in Europe, America and Australia. There are a couple. Marshall Arena in Milton Keynes. The indoor arena that Wasps Netball uses, next to the Ricoh Arena, Coventry. I can't think of any others. Giants used to play at Manchester Velodrome the season they folded, the court along with the crowd were on the inside of the track. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 20:26:51 GMT
Google england indoor arenas and there are plenty. Birmingham, Bolton, Derby, Exeter, Leeds, Liverpool, Milton Keynes,Nottingham, Cardiff, Newport & Aberdeen are the ones in cities that do not currently have a BBL franchise. Have you actually looked at these arenas? Some are far too big. Some are really old. Some are in an auditorium layout for conferences and not suitable for basketball. The Derby Arena is a velodrome, so you would be sitting on the other side of a cycle track. In Britain we don't have indoor sports arenas like they have in Europe, America and Australia. There are a couple. Marshall Arena in Milton Keynes. The indoor arena that Wasps Netball uses, next to the Ricoh Arena, Coventry. I can't think of any others. They're still arenas, they'd still be an upgrade on bristol. As Tony says, Lithuania managed it, and it was pretty special |
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 23, 2020 20:42:12 GMT
Have you actually looked at these arenas? Some are far too big. Some are really old. Some are in an auditorium layout for conferences and not suitable for basketball. The Derby Arena is a velodrome, so you would be sitting on the other side of a cycle track. In Britain we don't have indoor sports arenas like they have in Europe, America and Australia. There are a couple. Marshall Arena in Milton Keynes. The indoor arena that Wasps Netball uses, next to the Ricoh Arena, Coventry. I can't think of any others. They're still arenas, they'd still be an upgrade on bristol. As Tony says, Lithuania managed it, and it was pretty special Derby Trailblazers in the Derby Arena does seem like a viable option. East Midlands is a region strong in basketball. Derby, unlike Nottingham and Leicester, doesn't have lots of professional sports teams vying for fans and attention. This definitely has potential. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 20:58:23 GMT
Well I'm sure you remember Storm
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Post by baldereagle on Nov 23, 2020 21:30:48 GMT
Derby Storm and the great entertainer Bob Donewald - those were the days !! Sorry this is off topic but who was their player who sat in the crowd rather than the bench ?
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Post by connors on Nov 23, 2020 21:42:05 GMT
Don’t know for sure but didn’t Yorrick and Rico play for them at one point?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 21:54:52 GMT
Yes. When they had a spot of bother at chester.
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Post by ncdtb on Nov 24, 2020 2:08:24 GMT
Google england indoor arenas and there are plenty. Birmingham, Bolton, Derby, Exeter, Leeds, Liverpool, Milton Keynes,Nottingham, Cardiff, Newport & Aberdeen are the ones in cities that do not currently have a BBL franchise. The Derby Arena is a velodrome, so you would be sitting on the other side of a cycle track. Actually, the Derby Velodrome is unique in that the cycle track is on level 2, above the multi-sports space. This means you can walk in from street level and get straight onto the arena floor. The arena would therefore definitely lend itself to basketball and there is space to have a full size court with tiered seating on all four sides. If required, cycling could simultaneously happen on the Velodrome track upstairs. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 7:24:33 GMT
I know it's not a popular opinion ("because they're brilliantly run, blah blah") but Bristol haven't helped any aspiring "new" franchise enter the league. I think the BBL have shown over the years that they want more franchises (and the fee they bring) but unless they have a venue of at least 1000 to start with, vague promises of a shiny new arena won't get it done. A key part of a decent TV deal is the ability to show any important game, and that's not possible at somewhere like Bristol or Reading. I do agree that it's very difficult to launch a pro club in this country. Below D1 there's not a guarantee the opposition will turn up and you're playing at a level where the NGB are determined to maintain that it's amateur. What we really need is a BBL II.... |
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Post by drivethebody on Nov 24, 2020 8:40:08 GMT
Isn’t Bristol Arena very similar to Surrey (in that same capacity and single seating area)?
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 24, 2020 9:01:36 GMT
I know it's not a popular opinion ("because they're brilliantly run, blah blah") but Bristol haven't helped any aspiring "new" franchise enter the league. I think the BBL have shown over the years that they want more franchises (and the fee they bring) but unless they have a venue of at least 1000 to start with, vague promises of a shiny new arena won't get it done. A key part of a decent TV deal is the ability to show any important game, and that's not possible at somewhere like Bristol or Reading. I do agree that it's very difficult to launch a pro club in this country. Below D1 there's not a guarantee the opposition will turn up and you're playing at a level where the NGB are determined to maintain that it's amateur. What we really need is a BBL II.... I do agree with you. The BBL Cup can involve BBL1 and BBL2, and of course the trophy. But to have a professional product to be shown on Sky Sports, and to become part of the mainstream British sporting calendar, getting mentioned on BBC radio 5 Live etc. the BBL1 Championship needs to look professional. BBL2 could have a minimum capacity of about 600 seats (I'm not sure how many teams would qualify for that), and 1000 seats for BBL1, with a date set in the future to increase that to 2000, possibly in stages. |
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Post by lexumcomp on Nov 24, 2020 9:29:19 GMT
Ideally a team on the south coast. Solent would be perfect although still baffled that they built their venue just shy of bbl criteria.
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 24, 2020 9:53:21 GMT
Ideally a team on the south coast. Solent would be perfect although still baffled that they built their venue just shy of bbl criteria. How many seats does Solent's venue have? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 10:41:56 GMT
Ideally a team on the south coast. Solent would be perfect although still baffled that they built their venue just shy of bbl criteria. By "just shy" you mean nowhere near? |
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Post by dandayr on Nov 24, 2020 12:23:09 GMT
I would be interested in hearing what would be everyone's preferred town/city/borough/club for the BBL's twelfth franchise, and the reason why. Belfast the Giants have done alright there in hockey, with a similar approach why should a basketball team not also work? Facilities are there ok - though challenge would be scheduling as you have events as well as hockey already in there Worked ok for Rocks sharing Braehead with Clan - but that arena did not have a constant stream of events as most went to the SECC, though DIsney on Ice always led to a block where had to play on the road for a couple of weekends |
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Post by chesterdonnelly on Nov 24, 2020 12:45:22 GMT
I would be interested in hearing what would be everyone's preferred town/city/borough/club for the BBL's twelfth franchise, and the reason why. Belfast the Giants have done alright there in hockey, with a similar approach why should a basketball team not also work? Facilities are there ok - though challenge would be scheduling as you have events as well as hockey already in there Worked ok for Rocks sharing Braehead with Clan - but that arena did not have a constant stream of events as most went to the SECC, though DIsney on Ice always led to a block where had to play on the road for a couple of weekends I like this idea, and I have another idea. A British and Irish Basketball League, or just call it the Elite Basketball League (like the EIHL) and have only the big clubs from Britain (Glasgow, Newcastle, Manchester, Leicester, London, Plymouth, Worcester) plus a team from each of Belfast and Dublin. Like the Australian NBL. It can sit above the BBL, and the BBL can be expanded to include teams like Solent, Reading, Hemel and Derby. |
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Post by LTFan on Nov 24, 2020 14:57:50 GMT
Almost 12,000 people signed the recent petition for Government funding during Covid19. This map shows you where all those people live... so gives a good indication of what areas in the UK have a basketball following but no team. petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=324801 |
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Post by scorcherheat on Nov 24, 2020 16:54:27 GMT
As someone who used to travel down to the Brighton Centre and The Triangle in Burgess Hill to watch the Brighton Bears, i would love Brighton to get a BBL franchise again.
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Post by sporty on Nov 24, 2020 17:33:58 GMT
As someone who used to travel down to the Brighton Centre and The Triangle in Burgess Hill to watch the Brighton Bears, i would love Brighton to get a BBL franchise again. |
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