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Post by ko25 on Dec 3, 2020 10:16:35 GMT
COVID Vaccine will you be having it, I was just wondering what the thoughts were?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 10:17:53 GMT
Yes, I will.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 13:46:55 GMT
I work in a plague pit. I'd be mad not to
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Post by swimmingbadger on Dec 7, 2020 14:42:14 GMT
I work in a hospital; bit of a no-brainer.
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Post by ko25 on Dec 7, 2020 15:14:32 GMT
Who voted no?
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Post by LTFan on Dec 7, 2020 15:43:03 GMT
Someone who may not be with us much longer.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 7, 2020 15:57:56 GMT
I wont be. And not because Im an anti vaxxer or anything like that.
Im 31, healthy as Ive ever been, never smoked, dont drink anymore, no underlying health problems, dont eat bad stuff, and if I got covid then theres a damn good chance Id survive it.
This vaccine, whatever public health England or anyone else says, has been produced very quickly. Im not 100% confident we're not going to get 12 months down the line and there wont be some sort of side affect we didnt know about, and that Id have been better off without it and just getting the virus in the first place.
I will qualify this by saying Im talking about my own circumstances. If I was middle aged, asthmatic, had other problems, was massively overweight or something like that Id probably think differently and have it, but the benefit doesnt outweigh the unknown for me personally.
On top of that - I cant in all good conscience take a vaccine I know would be of better benefit to someone else.
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Post by ongiantsshoulders on Dec 7, 2020 17:48:30 GMT
I wont be. And not because Im an anti vaxxer or anything like that. Im 31, healthy as Ive ever been, never smoked, dont drink anymore, no underlying health problems, dont eat bad stuff, and if I got covid then theres a damn good chance Id survive it. This vaccine, whatever public health England or anyone else says, has been produced very quickly. Im not 100% confident we're not going to get 12 months down the line and there wont be some sort of side affect we didnt know about, and that Id have been better off without it and just getting the virus in the first place. I will qualify this by saying Im talking about my own circumstances. If I was middle aged, asthmatic, had other problems, was massively overweight or something like that Id probably think differently and have it, but the benefit doesnt outweigh the unknown for me personally. On top of that - I cant in all good conscience take a vaccine I know would be of better benefit to someone else. The risks of side effects from catching Covid are far worse than any possible side effects from the vaccine.
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Post by MansfieldMike on Dec 7, 2020 17:50:30 GMT
and .... by not taking it, you potentially could become a spreader of the virus, and thus endanger others.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 19:04:16 GMT
I wont be taking the vaccine thats in its first form. Years of trials are in place for a reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 19:16:37 GMT
and .... by not taking it, you potentially could become a spreader of the virus, and thus endanger others. Yeah, and you could give it to someone who's unsuccessfully taken the vaccine because it's not 100 percent successful. I'm not going to judge anyone who doesn't take it, because it's personal choice what you put in you body, and the indications are enough people are willing to take it to make a real difference.
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Post by baldereagle on Dec 7, 2020 20:34:56 GMT
There’ll be a lot less anti-vaxxers when pubs only let vaccinated people in !
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 7, 2020 22:20:49 GMT
I wont be. And not because Im an anti vaxxer or anything like that. Im 31, healthy as Ive ever been, never smoked, dont drink anymore, no underlying health problems, dont eat bad stuff, and if I got covid then theres a damn good chance Id survive it. This vaccine, whatever public health England or anyone else says, has been produced very quickly. Im not 100% confident we're not going to get 12 months down the line and there wont be some sort of side affect we didnt know about, and that Id have been better off without it and just getting the virus in the first place. I will qualify this by saying Im talking about my own circumstances. If I was middle aged, asthmatic, had other problems, was massively overweight or something like that Id probably think differently and have it, but the benefit doesnt outweigh the unknown for me personally. On top of that - I cant in all good conscience take a vaccine I know would be of better benefit to someone else. The risks of side effects from catching Covid are far worse than any possible side effects from the vaccine. You know that for sure do you?
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 7, 2020 22:21:36 GMT
and .... by not taking it, you potentially could become a spreader of the virus, and thus endanger others. Theyll be one of three things, vaccinated, not at risk, or foolish. None of which are my fault.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 7:35:09 GMT
There is a fourth group - people for whom the vaccination doesn't work. While a 90-95% success rate is high (conveniently high, you'd probably argue), it' leaves 5-10% of vaccinated people still at risk.
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Post by leamrider2 on Dec 8, 2020 8:16:00 GMT
I'm rated as extremely vulnerable due to the type of cancer I had five years ago. No question that I shall have the vaccine.
I'm also a governor of a large NHS Foundation Trust that runs four hospitals in my area, so I get to see and hear a lot about Covid-19 and the vaccines. Certainly its development has been rapid; certainly like any vaccine there is a % chance that it will not work for an individual. But believe me, if you knew what this virus can do to you even if you are a fit and young person, then you'd choose to have it.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 8, 2020 8:56:37 GMT
There is a fourth group - people for whom the vaccination doesn't work. While a 90-95% success rate is high (conveniently high, you'd probably argue), it' leaves 5-10% of vaccinated people still at risk. Higher the better, dont get me wrong. Look, we get 12/18 months down the line and there's no real side effects that have become apparent then Id probably be more inclined to have it.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 8, 2020 9:00:28 GMT
I'm rated as extremely vulnerable due to the type of cancer I had five years ago. No question that I shall have the vaccine. I'm also a governor of a large NHS Foundation Trust that runs four hospitals in my area, so I get to see and hear a lot about Covid-19 and the vaccines. Certainly its development has been rapid; certainly like any vaccine there is a % chance that it will not work for an individual. But believe me, if you knew what this virus can do to you even if you are a fit and young person, then you'd choose to have it. Ive read enough cheers. Im not coming at this from a position of ignorance - and I appreciate that my position isnt popular, but Im not happy taking a vaccine thats been developed "rapidly" until I know of long term side effects if any exist. Ill get by just fine in the mean time. Were I in your shoes, Id have it too because the risk of the virus is greater than the risk of the unknown.
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Post by retsek on Dec 8, 2020 9:22:04 GMT
Yup absolutely I'll be having it, it's inexcusable not to as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by LTFan on Dec 8, 2020 10:52:26 GMT
There is a fourth group - people for whom the vaccination doesn't work. While a 90-95% success rate is high (conveniently high, you'd probably argue), it' leaves 5-10% of vaccinated people still at risk. Higher the better, dont get me wrong. Look, we get 12/18 months down the line and there's no real side effects that have become apparent then Id probably be more inclined to have it. From the personal info you gave us I'd say it's likely to be 6-12 months before its available to you anyway!
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Post by notoriousbigz on Dec 8, 2020 11:24:26 GMT
Higher the better, dont get me wrong. Look, we get 12/18 months down the line and there's no real side effects that have become apparent then Id probably be more inclined to have it. From the personal info you gave us I'd say it's likely to be 6-12 months before its available to you anyway! Yeah youre probably right. And Im ok with that. I just feel more uneasy stepping into the unknown when Im not at risk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 18:21:49 GMT
The people I dislike are the wackos who believe they've put trackers in the vaccine, proper thick people.
Don't you think you're being tracked already through your smartphone or any other device you have? On the PS5 for example they have a mic built into the new contro11er and it's on by default but you can switch it off in the settings.
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Post by isthaturinal on Dec 8, 2020 19:37:09 GMT
I’ve already got my sleeve rolled up, I’ve got a underlying health condition, So it’s a Yes for me.
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Post by 2NFR on Dec 9, 2020 14:51:02 GMT
The people I dislike are the wackos who believe they've put trackers in the vaccine, proper thick people. As history has shown ...One man's 'wacko' is another man's whistleblower ... just just saying mate
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Post by billybadknees on Dec 9, 2020 15:58:45 GMT
I work in a plague pit. I'd be mad not to Fellow plague pit worker
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