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Post by LTFan on Nov 18, 2021 12:24:58 GMT
Not sure what Teague’s contract situation is, but as good as he has been (even if inconsistent) I’d rather they had a legit big for the next round than another guard, someone who can really grab rebounds and defend stronger post players I suspect they have the option to release him at each point of the season the European journey could be over, now being the first opportunity, the next being at the end of the regular season (before the QFs) in February. I'll be amazed if he's not kept around for the second half of the regular season though. |
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Post by LTFan on Nov 25, 2021 14:44:13 GMT
The first of a new mini documentary series has launched on YouTube - Lions Unleashed. It chronicles Lions journey in Europe.
First the negatives. It focuses on just one game, on the road against Kapfenberg Bulls. Also, its focus is now over 2 weeks old, so it's somewhat outdated already (focusing on being undefeated in the competition, which they now aren't).
But now for the positives. It's actually a really well produced video. If we can get one of these for each European game, and uploaded within a few days afterwards, that would be excellent.
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Post by drivethebody on Nov 25, 2021 15:14:59 GMT
Looks good yes but what’s the target audience for it?
Lions have a small hardcore following of fans (20-40 who go to most games)- home and away. They’ll be interested.
The remaining make up of the crowds is once a season or tourist type fans (and a few who attend on comps).
Their budget (although is very big so it’s probably not an issue if they can afford not to produce saleable merchandise and to continue to take players like Jordan Spenser on away trips abroad with no hint of any play) is obviously massive?
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Post by LTFan on Nov 25, 2021 16:07:11 GMT
Looks good yes but what’s the target audience for it? Lions have a small hardcore following of fans (20-40 who go to most games)- home and away. They’ll be interested. The remaining make up of the crowds is once a season or tourist type fans (and a few who attend on comps). Their budget (although is very big so it’s probably not an issue if they can afford not to produce saleable merchandise and to continue to take players like Jordan Spenser on away trips abroad with no hint of any play) is obviously massive? I think all fans will be interested in it, not just the 20-40 who go to all games, so that's a few hundred. It already has 200+ views in 24 hours. But I think it's main purpose is to act as promotion for the Lions, getting some people interested in (or at least aware of) the Lions that otherwise wouldn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 17:26:56 GMT
Being a positive guy I bet it's really good. The fact DTB is clutching at straws - such as the lack of merchandise and an injured guy not playing - which have nothing to do with the film makes me positive it's great. And, dude, you don't have to reply. I'm positive of that and positive you will.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 25, 2021 23:37:29 GMT
Looks good yes but what’s the target audience for it? Lions have a small hardcore following of fans (20-40 who go to most games)- home and away. They’ll be interested. The remaining make up of the crowds is once a season or tourist type fans (and a few who attend on comps). Their budget (although is very big so it’s probably not an issue if they can afford not to produce saleable merchandise and to continue to take players like Jordan Spenser on away trips abroad with no hint of any play) is obviously massive? What, so they shouldn't produce any content because they only have 20-40 hardcore fans? This is a definite improvement in their media output, it's a way of engaging existing & new fans. My only gripe is that this should be weekly output from before the season started. They need to grow their audience, stuff like this will help. As for Jordan, he's injured so he's not playing, he's fairly unlikely to see minutes in Europe, he's got Teague, Reese & Robinson in front of him at PG, but he's there, supporting the team & helping the team chemistry, you can't put a price on that. And he will make a decent contribution to Lions on court over the season. And for god's sake, it's Spencer!! What you have got a valid point about is the merchandise, it's unbelievably poor that they can't manage at least a few t-shirts & tops to sell! I'm informed it's coming. There's a whole load of home games before Christmas an ideal opportunity to sell some merchandise & build the brand but I'm not holding my breath! |
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Post by casualhook on Nov 26, 2021 16:36:55 GMT
Lions doing a ticket £55 for all 3 Euro games, not a bad idea or price imo
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Nov 26, 2021 17:31:51 GMT
Lions doing a ticket £55 for all 3 Euro games, not a bad idea or price imo That should please Pat, more money to help pay for the trip to Russia. What do you mean, he's not going? I don't know, these part time supporters |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 10:16:22 GMT
Lions doing a ticket £55 for all 3 Euro games, not a bad idea or price imo Effectively a buy two, get one free offer, which suggests they're not moving away from a base price of £27. I'm not sure there will be a rush of people wanting to go three weeks in succession at that price. |
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Post by casualhook on Nov 27, 2021 11:34:36 GMT
They have reduced the price down to £11 for behind a basket or 22 down the side for single game tickets
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Post by drivethebody on Nov 27, 2021 11:48:49 GMT
They have reduced the price down to £11 for behind a basket or 22 down the side for single game tickets £11 is good. Id imagine a lot will pay that and move to side (if they aren’t full) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 7:26:24 GMT
As they start their second round games, it's clear Lions' opponents are serious about this stuff. I know there was debate about the standard of this competition, but it's clear that by the second stage they're playing with some seriously big boys. Maybe not Y11s, but certainly not the Y7 or 8s |
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Post by spacejammer on Dec 7, 2021 9:25:09 GMT
As they start their second round games, it's clear Lions' opponents are serious about this stuff. I know there was debate about the standard of this competition, but it's clear that by the second stage they're playing with some seriously big boys. Maybe not Y11s, but certainly not the Y7 or 8s To me whether it's Euroleague, Eurocup or Champions League they're still playing European basketball which is a step up for them as it would be for any BBL club. I remember after the clean sweep seasons wishing the Eagles had have taken the leap into Europe. Pity the finances have put off the likes of us and the Riders most seasons. I understand for any team that attempts Europe their are some pros and cons. Last year I thought the Lions were commiting franchise sucide trying for it last year when the pandemic wasn't under control. But so far Europe seems to be doing well for them and who knows if they can keep this up it could even do wonders for them in the years to come which is a worry for the rest of the BBL. Either way whatever level it's better to have some European ball then no European ball so long as you don’t end up dooming the franchise in the process. |
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Post by drivethebody on Dec 7, 2021 12:38:20 GMT
As they start their second round games, it's clear Lions' opponents are serious about this stuff. I know there was debate about the standard of this competition, but it's clear that by the second stage they're playing with some seriously big boys. Maybe not Y11s, but certainly not the Y7 or 8s To me whether it's Euroleague, Eurocup or Champions League they're still playing European basketball which is a step up for them as it would be for any BBL club. I remember after the clean sweep seasons wishing the Eagles had have taken the leap into Europe. Pity the finances have put off the likes of us and the Riders most seasons. I understand for any team that attempts Europe their are some pros and cons. Last year I thought the Lions were commiting franchise sucide trying for it last year when the pandemic wasn't under control. But so far Europe seems to be doing well for them and who knows if they can keep this up it could even do wonders for them in the years to come which is a worry for the rest of the BBL. Either way whatever level it's better to have some European ball then no European ball so long as you don’t end up dooming the franchise in the process. My only criticism is the signing of 2 players solely for the European campaign which is a bit of a kick in the teeth for the others who don’t get to play because of them. It’s a bit strange to do that |
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Post by LTFan on Dec 7, 2021 12:59:37 GMT
To me whether it's Euroleague, Eurocup or Champions League they're still playing European basketball which is a step up for them as it would be for any BBL club. I remember after the clean sweep seasons wishing the Eagles had have taken the leap into Europe. Pity the finances have put off the likes of us and the Riders most seasons. I understand for any team that attempts Europe their are some pros and cons. Last year I thought the Lions were commiting franchise sucide trying for it last year when the pandemic wasn't under control. But so far Europe seems to be doing well for them and who knows if they can keep this up it could even do wonders for them in the years to come which is a worry for the rest of the BBL. Either way whatever level it's better to have some European ball then no European ball so long as you don’t end up dooming the franchise in the process. My only criticism is the signing of 2 players solely for the European campaign which is a bit of a kick in the teeth for the others who don’t get to play because of them. It’s a bit strange to do that Not uncommon though. There are teams in the Euroleague who also sign players for European competition and not their domestic league games. I'm not really a fan of it either, but if the rules allow it, other teams are doing it, and you're in a position to do it yourself, then you'd be doing yourself a disadvantage if you didn't. |
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Post by LTFan on Dec 7, 2021 15:57:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 16:17:12 GMT
My only criticism is the signing of 2 players solely for the European campaign which is a bit of a kick in the teeth for the others who don’t get to play because of them. It’s a bit strange to do that Tp be fair, it's not your only criticism of Lions. But this isn't participation basketball, there's no All Must Play, it's professional. there's no sympathy minutes. All of the Lions' roster can get minutes in Europe except Lockhart as FIBA class him as an import. Part of the reason EuroLeague teams sign additional players is because of the amount of games they play,, but in many countries they can rotate their imports - Lions can't. I'm sure Vince would happily spend the money they're paying for the Euro-only pair on players he could play every game, but there's a salary cap which is far lower than most clubs playing in Europe pay. If Lions are going to move forward in Europe they'll have to move towards two distinct squads. H2H |
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Post by LTFan on Dec 8, 2021 10:22:30 GMT
As they start their second round games, it's clear Lions' opponents are serious about this stuff. I know there was debate about the standard of this competition, but it's clear that by the second stage they're playing with some seriously big boys. Maybe not Y11s, but certainly not the Y7 or 8s I didn't realise Bahcesehir had any players with the calibre of Sam Dekker. It's interesting to compare Dekker's basketball CV with that of Lions' Marquis Teague. Dekker has played around twice as many regular season NBA games as Teague (201 v 91), and more recently. He was also drafted earlier, although both in the first round (18th v 29th) Teague has played in twice as many NBA play-off games though (8 v 4). I suppose it's obvious that the second round of the Europe Cup is going to be a lot tougher for Lions... not only are you left playing the top 50% of teams that qualified for the competition, you're also going to come up against eastern European teams - which didn't happen in the first round because of how the competition is structured, where budgets (and therefore calibre) are typically higher. I'm really glad they've made it this far, I am, but I am a little worried it could cost them the Cup, Trophy and Championship domestically. Leaving the Play-Offs the only competition that shouldn't be too impacted. It's generating some good publicity for the british game though... www.thesun.co.uk/sport/16954642/london-lions-uk-european-basketball/www.standard.co.uk/sport/london-lions-british-basketball-league-fiba-europe-cup-b970331.html |
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Post by docker on Dec 8, 2021 11:33:48 GMT
Lions have done well to get that coverage and it's starting to feel like their marketing approach is a bit more serious now. Interesting to read about the impact of the GM as well.
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Post by MansfieldMike on Dec 8, 2021 14:20:42 GMT
Good first quarter for the Lions 👍
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Post by casualhook on Dec 8, 2021 14:24:23 GMT
Only just managed to get home and get the game on, Lions defence looks really good and what a great start
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Post by casualhook on Dec 8, 2021 14:45:14 GMT
Hard to be critical, but at the same time REBOUND THE BALL FFS
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Post by MansfieldMike on Dec 8, 2021 15:08:49 GMT
Lions giving up too many open threes in 3rd qtr. 😟
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Post by MansfieldMike on Dec 8, 2021 15:18:48 GMT
No coming back from a 3 qtr like that, 19 points down now.
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Post by casualhook on Dec 8, 2021 15:41:59 GMT
Did very well to be competitive for a half, and certainly didn’t disgrace themselves, and that should be the hardest game on paper so hopefully they can  back |
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