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Post by saintpat on Oct 27, 2021 14:09:29 GMT
They've sold over 4 times the amount last week I think. It's still not many but it's somewhere around 350. There's been some other ticket sales & along with various freebies I'd hope we see over 600 tonight.
Marketing is still all over the place, they finally announced 24 hours before the game that kids go free with an adult ticket!!
As for the game, this is going to be really tough but if we're on top of our game & hit a decent percentage of 3's it might prove very interesting.
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Post by sil on Oct 27, 2021 14:26:10 GMT
Hmm. Not sure the legal side of this is quite that straightforward Whilst for a company to being an action there would need to be serious financial harm that would not be the test were an individual wanting to bring an action. Then it would simply come down to serious harm to reputation. The test would be whether there are any identifiable individuals here (ie people involved with 777 partners). Certainly if I was a director of 777 and was being accused publicly of money laundering I would be speaking to my lawyers. In any event the suggestion on a public forum is incredibly unwise and lacking judgment at the very least. Hardly. The fact it is posted on a forum, in response to a discussion about poor management, and couched as "either X or Y", makes it clearly intended as a statement of parody rather than making any claim to credence. In any event, even if the poster had claimed credence, there is no chance the comment would be "likely" to cause "serious harm" to an individual's reputation, because: - the comment specifically referred to the Lions organisation rather than an individual; - even if it hadn't, the poster didn't specify which individual(s) they were referring to, so the claimant would have a hurdle to prove that a substantial number of readers would think of them specifically; - even if they succeeded on that, the comment didn't specifically say they were engaged in money laundering, and left open the possibility of an alternative; - even if it didn't, factors such as the lack of evidence, anonymity of the publisher, and small readership of this website mean it is clearly not going to be believed by a wide number of people. Being likely to cause serious harm are two very high bars to get over. And - get this - even if they did get over those high bars, the poster has an absolute defence anyway since his comment was an "honest opinion". The court has held this defence available even for comments which are "prejudiced, exaggerated or obstinate". The law was not drafted to cover flippant comments on online forums. |
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Post by LTFan on Oct 27, 2021 15:12:01 GMT
For those interested the bookies have Bayreuth as favourites to win tonight, but only by 2 or 3 points. I was expecting a bigger margin to be honest. I think this'll be a tough game for Lions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 16:23:27 GMT
Hmm. Not sure the legal side of this is quite that straightforward Whilst for a company to being an action there would need to be serious financial harm that would not be the test were an individual wanting to bring an action. Then it would simply come down to serious harm to reputation. The test would be whether there are any identifiable individuals here (ie people involved with 777 partners). Certainly if I was a director of 777 and was being accused publicly of money laundering I would be speaking to my lawyers. In any event the suggestion on a public forum is incredibly unwise and lacking judgment at the very least. Yeah right. An opinion differs greatly from an accusation. And I were 777 I’d be concerned more about the total lack of interest in the team and the awful attendance rather than some comment by a poster on an obscure message board. I’d wonder that in a city of over 9 million and with loads of basketball fans, why is the arena not packed every game. It’s speaks to product and perception of the league, not lack of marketing. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Oct 27, 2021 17:01:06 GMT
I'd be careful if I was you. If this carries on much longer davef will start charging you for advice and that's not cheap.
Oh, nearly forgot, just finished watching the ladies game. Very impressed by them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 18:31:00 GMT
Yeah, they played really well, especially in the absence of Leedhamm. The fourth period was excellent. Shame the board didn't come along rather than hiding behind a keyboard under a bridge. Hopefully the men will make it a good night for 777.
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Post by casualhook on Oct 27, 2021 19:14:50 GMT
Positive start, still have a terrible big rotation, Kelley would be a decent bench option IMO, Tawiah and Williams nowhere near this level
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Post by casualhook on Oct 27, 2021 19:46:14 GMT
Wasn’t expecting that, Lions not playing as fluidly as last week but their shot making is crazy right now
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Post by Solly on Oct 27, 2021 21:10:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 21:50:10 GMT
what a great night.
tbe bridge dwellers are quiet
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Post by samgray on Oct 27, 2021 22:10:14 GMT
Positive start, still have a terrible big rotation, Kelley would be a decent bench option IMO, Tawiah and Williams nowhere near this level Can’t win at this level consistently with a “terrible” big rotation surely?!?! I do agree they could do with someone more dominant at this level but I do think that would add considerable issues in terms of how they’d then play. The group they have seem to work with what the coaches want.. |
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Post by sil on Oct 27, 2021 22:40:55 GMT
Hmm. Not sure the legal side of this is quite that straightforward Whilst for a company to being an action there would need to be serious financial harm that would not be the test were an individual wanting to bring an action. Then it would simply come down to serious harm to reputation. The test would be whether there are any identifiable individuals here (ie people involved with 777 partners). Certainly if I was a director of 777 and was being accused publicly of money laundering I would be speaking to my lawyers. In any event the suggestion on a public forum is incredibly unwise and lacking judgment at the very least. Someone has suggested you are also a legal professional so I will give this a more technical treatment. " Hmm. Not sure the legal side of this is quite that straightforward" I don't understand why you say this. The alternative cause of action you are suggesting is even more straightforward to defend. " Whilst for a company to being an action there would need to be serious financial harm that would not be the test were an individual wanting to bring an action. Then it would simply come down to serious harm to reputation." You are correct that is the test, but your implication it is an easier test to meet is incorrect. " The test would be whether there are any identifiable individuals here (ie people involved with 777 partners)." Exactly. As you acknowledge in this sentence, there would also be the additional hurdle of establishing standing. " In any event the suggestion on a public forum is incredibly unwise and lacking judgment at the very least." I can't agree it's unwise when any legal recourse is incredibly unlikely since (1) the claimant would have to establish standing, (2) the claimant would then have to establish a likelihood of serious harm to reputation, (3) the claimant would then bear the burden of disproving the honest comment/opinion defence, and (4) I would guess whoever posted that comment doesn't have the financial means to satisfy an award of the scale which would justify the financial outlay involved. We both know you would never advise 777 (or any person associated with them) to pursue a libel action here. |
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Post by sil on Oct 27, 2021 22:43:35 GMT
Great performance tonight and an improved crowd notwithstanding the absence of free tickets. I am not sure whether the late introduction of free tickets last week, and discounted tickets this week, was intended as market research but either way Lions will have gathered some valuable information about the prices people are willing to pay and the avenues they use to interact with the club. Hopefully affordable pricing is retained for the next one and we see an improved crowd again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 22:56:07 GMT
of course, your "client" could just back up his claim. or continue to post sh it. my money's on the latter.
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Post by sil on Oct 27, 2021 23:15:18 GMT
of course, your "client" could just back up his claim. or continue to post sh it. my money's on the latter. I have no dog in your fight. My 19 20 posts on here are purely legal argument or crowd wanks. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Oct 28, 2021 5:26:16 GMT
Well this thread got weird fast. As per most of the stuff posted on here these days its not something I want to stick my neck on the line for - but whilst its unlikely to give rise to any legal consequence, accusing 777 of money laundering is a bizarre (and serious) accusation and Id love to understand the logic behind it, but I doubt he'll actually respond with any substance. Is it not just a case (as with most things) that dunkster simply doesnt understand what money laundering actually is?
Anyway who cares. London Lions are 3-0 in Europe and theyve made relatively light work of what was on paper a difficult matchup. How far do we think theyll actually go? Next stage now seems a given barring complete disaster and Im starting to think they might surprise us and actually make a good fist of things. Good for Vince and co.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Oct 28, 2021 5:28:02 GMT
Ps - crowd wanks? What fresh hell is this?
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Oct 28, 2021 6:00:32 GMT
Ps - crowd wanks? What fresh hell is this? New initiative to get bums on seats |
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Post by saintpat on Oct 28, 2021 8:19:17 GMT
I said after Lions2 beat Scorchers that I doubted I'd see a game this season I enjoyed more. I WAS WRONG!!
I said to my daughter on Tuesday night after seeing Saints lose to Chelsea in my 1st live attended game in about 2 years that I'd missed football so much & basketball couldn't quite compete with it. I WAS WRONG!!
Last night's game will live long in my memory, a fantastic performance from Lions against a very good, experienced Europe Cup team. I really thought this would be simply to much for Lions, that Beyreuth would simply be too good.
But the heart, passion & team chemistry that Lions showed last night was excellent.
Every player who stepped on court helped towards that win, yes we're probably a quality big man light but the guards & small forwards can really turn it on & if we shoot like last night well be difficult to stop.
Reese, Washburn, Dirk, Majauskas, all excellent at both ends of the court & with the quality of Teague coming off the bench it looks quite good. And when Justin's fit as well!!!
Lions are probably one win away from securing qualification for the next round but they'll want to really set their mark & go through the group stage undefeated & after the game last night their confidence must be sky high.
Of course it wasn't all perfect, as said above, we're a bit light inside, Kelley provides the showtime but defensively he loses attention & doesn't cope well with big strong bodies backing him down. Chris & Jordan are both far stronger & better defensively, but they lack the height needed against some of these teams.
Early part of the 3rd & Lions allowed Beyreuth back in the game & despite practically everyone shouting for a time out ( fans & players), Vince just waited & allowed the players to dig themselves out of the hole. It worked this time but it's not a good look & he needs to be more decisive with his time outs. More importantly, that strategy will not work many times.
But there's not much you can really complain about when you beat this quality opposition by 10!!
And after such a long time away, my voice is finally up to coping with chanting the whole game, I'm not sure that pleased everyone around me 😂 bit hey you can't please everyone!
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Post by borthwick on Oct 28, 2021 9:58:17 GMT
Outstanding win. Congratulations to London for a great victory. And well done Vince.
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Post by LTFan on Oct 28, 2021 11:33:02 GMT
London Lions are 3-0 in Europe and theyve made relatively light work of what was on paper a difficult matchup. How far do we think theyll actually go? Next stage now seems a given barring complete disaster and Im starting to think they might surprise us and actually make a good fist of things. Good for Vince and co. One more win, from the remaining 3 games, should secure Lions qualification to the second (and final) round of the regular season. Two more wins would definitely secure qualification. Great win last night. And a great position Lions have already got themselves in so early in the competition. Great atmosphere too. A bit weird having almost the entire crown on one side of the arena, but I understand why they do it. |
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Post by saintpat on Oct 28, 2021 11:48:41 GMT
London Lions are 3-0 in Europe and theyve made relatively light work of what was on paper a difficult matchup. How far do we think theyll actually go? Next stage now seems a given barring complete disaster and Im starting to think they might surprise us and actually make a good fist of things. Good for Vince and co. One more win, from the remaining 3 games, should secure Lions qualification to the second (and final) round of the regular season. Two more wins would definitely secure qualification. Great win last night. And a great position Lions have already got themselves in so early in the competition. Great atmosphere too. A bit weird having almost the entire crown on one side of the arena, but I understand why they do it. I like the crowd all being on one side. I think it helps the atmosphere, I'd actually like the top tier used as opposed to the ends. I've seen varying comments about the atmosphere certainly not all positive but it's sometimes difficult for me to tell how it is as I can only hear my own voice😂😂😂. However it seemed quite good at times last night & the 2 or 3 clips of the game I've seen seem to bear that out. |
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Post by LTFan on Oct 28, 2021 12:47:16 GMT
One more win, from the remaining 3 games, should secure Lions qualification to the second (and final) round of the regular season. Two more wins would definitely secure qualification. Great win last night. And a great position Lions have already got themselves in so early in the competition. Great atmosphere too. A bit weird having almost the entire crown on one side of the arena, but I understand why they do it. I like the crowd all being on one side. I think it helps the atmosphere, I'd actually like the top tier used as opposed to the ends. I've seen varying comments about the atmosphere certainly not all positive but it's sometimes difficult for me to tell how it is as I can only hear my own voice😂😂😂. However it seemed quite good at times last night & the 2 or 3 clips of the game I've seen seem to bear that out. Yeah, having everyone sitting on the same side certainly helps the atmosphere (if not the pandemic!), it's just weird then looking at no one on the other side of the court. Still, Surrey fans must be used to it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 19:05:19 GMT
Ps - crowd wanks? What fresh hell is this? I am highly amused that calling someone a thing that rhymes with Ian Walker ( another one of my fans) is considered worth than "Crowd wanks". I will definitely use this one in the future. Probably if either of my Ian Walkers ever show up. So possibly never. |
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Post by faz on Oct 28, 2021 19:13:03 GMT
I said after Lions2 beat Scorchers that I doubted I'd see a game this season I enjoyed more. I WAS WRONG!! I said to my daughter on Tuesday night after seeing Saints lose to Chelsea in my 1st live attended game in about 2 years that I'd missed football so much & basketball couldn't quite compete with it. I WAS WRONG! Worrying that you thought watching Southampton was preferable to Lions! |
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