Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 14:56:27 GMT
Only when he plays.
He seems determined not to be seem on national TV. It's almost like it's a power game.
|
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Nov 6, 2019 16:24:30 GMT
Little nugget those who enjoy a cheeky bet might like to know - Betway have an offer on all NBA games, where if the team you back leads by 12 or more points, they pay out even if the team goes on to lose. I've taken advantage of this 4 times already since the weekend - what you do is, you bet the max allowable under the offer (£20) then go to a betting exchange and 'lay off' the bet by betting against the same team. You usually lose around 20p to £1.50 doing this. However when it happens that the team you backed does lead by 12+ but loses, you get paid out in both the exchange and at Betway - making about £35-40 each time. I've started doing this since Saturday and already won on Denver/Orlando, Portland/Philly and last night Indiana/Charlotte and Chicago/Lakers. Obviously you have to try and pick the team you think is more likely to get an early lead then blow it, so there is a bit of skill - but even if you just guessed, you'd only need to win once in every 30 games or so to make an overall profit. Personally I think the offer is far too generous from the Bookie, teams lead by 12 and go on to lose all the time! Oh and you need a matched betting calculator (google it) to tell you how much to pay on the exchange sites, depending what odds are on offer.  |
|
|
|
Post by connors on Nov 15, 2019 13:03:06 GMT
Carmelo looks like he is taking his talents to Portland. www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28082614/sources-blazers-signing-carmelo-anthony-non-guaranteed-dealRemains to be see what those talents are these days. Clearly past his best but if you can lead the NBA in scoring as he did in the past then you should be able to contribute something even at 35. Will he/can he play something resembling defence? Will he work on the boards as they need? Will he be able to understand he is at best third choice in the offence (maybe not even that)? Cannot believe those conversations have not been had so lets see if he can "Do a Dwight" and genuinely turn over a new leaf! In other news great scoring debut by Paul George for the Clippers last night. Certainly did not seem to be rusty!! Wonder what will happen when he and Leonard play together....or maybe this is the plan? They take it turns in regular season and only team up in the play-offs :-) |
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Nov 15, 2019 14:15:47 GMT
Portland have been struggling as I suspected they would, but is Melo really the answer? Feels like a long shot. The Clippers need to sort themselves out, they're only 7-5! Did you see Doc get ejected against Houston? Rivers Junior was encouraging the refs to toss him out! Quite funny.
Meanwhile shock of the season - the Knicks are both bad AND dysfunctional, already! Oh wait...no, no that's not a shock at all. The shock is that Steve Mills still has a job there.
|
|
|
|
Post by connors on Nov 15, 2019 14:47:20 GMT
I don't know exactly what a non-guaranteed deal is but I presume it means if he's no help and/or a disruptive influence they can show him the door PDQ as the Rockets did! I thought Austin Rivers asking for the T on his Dad was very funny. I am sure Doc probably saw the funny side. He looked wild at the time but I think a lot of NBA head coaches have perfected that act to make a point (either to officials or their team). the Knicks are bad but apparently good enough to beat the Mavs - Hersey WTF happened there?  |
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Nov 15, 2019 18:11:58 GMT
Aren't they 2-0 and done for the season with the Mavs? KP got the treatment Steve Mills should be getting from the Knicks faithful. It's absolutely awful for the league and basketball generally that the most valuable and important franchise in the NBA has been so bad for so long. It's ok for a small market like the Kings to suck forever, or back when the Clippers did because LA had the Lakers. But I really think the Knicks woes over this period of time is bad for the sport.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 10:38:15 GMT
the Knicks are bad but apparently good enough to beat the Mavs - Hersey WTF happened there?  It weren't pretty. I think the game at MSG came too early for KP, he's clearly not quite "there" fitness-wise yet, but the pressure did get to him a bit. He got absolute dog's abuse, and Sam's right that it was aimed at the wrong person. The goons shouting "man you suck" need to ask themselves why there's no queue of stars wanting to play for Knicks and aim the abuse in the right direction. I don't really get the idea that the NBA needs a strong & successful Knicks. Its massive growth over the last 20 years has come at the time when the Knicks have absolutely stunk. I'm not sure what the current situation is with the Chinese but losing their cash won't kill the NBA but it's far more hurtful to them than New York Knicks continuing to be an irrelevance. I still think this is the solution.
|
|
|
|
Post by connors on Nov 19, 2019 7:16:13 GMT
Still relatively early on in the NBA Season but James Harden is averaging 39.5 pts per game.....his shooting % is slightly down on his career but reasonable still. He took 41 shots in a game at the weekend including 22 3s!!!! I notice though that Beal and Giannis are also averaging 30 a game and there are a couple of others on 29 ppg. Is scoring becoming easier in the NBA as they adjust the rules to favour offensive players? Certainly I think the 3 point shot is a key to boosting scoring and overall the 3 ball has never been shot so well, by so many. Interesting article on The Ringer that covers some of this for those handful of Whatsbev people who follow the NBA.... www.theringer.com/nba/2019/11/18/20969957/damian-lillard-kyrie-irving-james-harden-dangelo-russell |
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Nov 19, 2019 12:14:58 GMT
My opinion is that scoring hasn't got easier so much as defending seems to be less of a priority these days. You used to hear it all the time - "offence wins games, defence wins championships" but not anymore since the Warriors came along and blew everyone away with their high scoring offence. I mean how many really great defenders in the game can you identify now? Gobert, Draymond...1 or 2 others maybe. Not say guys aren't good defenders, but it just doesn't seem to be anyone's focus anymore. The Clippers just hung 150 points on the Hawks in regulation FFS. That's more like an all star game! I think Harden is the main beneficiary, his scoring ability combined with the strategy most teams have of trying to out-score their opponent rather than stop them is leading to his average (its not exactly down to his pin point accurate shooting is it?). There was a time not so long ago where coaches would set out to double team the likes of Harden and hound him relentlessly, using the theory that if they're going to beat us, it'll be because of other players, not him. I don't see enough of that activity now. Yes, Westbrook would only be a single cover but he's streaky - if you catch him on a bad night and contain Harden, you should win.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 10:38:26 GMT
Did that bloke have to go about Andre Bloody Miller  But he's right, though. I imagine Luka will join the club soon pretty soon. He's joining every other club. I'm not sure the game is any better for the lack of D, great though Warriors were in their prime, but there's worse things to watch. |
|
|
|
Post by connors on Nov 20, 2019 12:32:43 GMT
Actually the Warriors teams with Durant were pretty decent defensively featuring 4 well above average defenders and a couple of sneaky vets thrown in. Less so now :-)
|
|
|
|
Post by massiveridersfan on Nov 21, 2019 20:22:13 GMT
Luka Doncic is ridiculously talented - watched his triple double this morning in 25(!) minutes. What an exciting player, who seems able to do anything in offence.
|
|
|
|
Post by Richyyy on Nov 22, 2019 5:04:26 GMT
Luka Doncic is ridiculously talented - watched his triple double this morning in 25(!) minutes. What an exciting player, who seems able to do anything in offence. The level of surprise from some Americans about how good he is is amazing, though. From a remarkably large group of people there seems to have been no recognition that being a star at Real Madrid and EuroLeague MVP at 18 means the guy is a little different from some random Euro prospect who's been playing in the Finnish second division (or wherever) before jumping to the NBA. I can understand some surprise at him being this good this fast, but the signs were pretty glaring if any NBA viewer just looked a tiny bit beyond their own realm. |
|
|
|
Post by connors on Nov 26, 2019 8:28:48 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Dec 3, 2019 1:09:47 GMT
Well...he's just been named player of the week for the Western Conference! I don't expect anyone would have predicted that happening, especially not this soon! He's off to a good start, the question is whether it lasts once he's got his guaranteed deal in January.
How about the Raptors at 15-4? They don't look like they're missing Leonard at all. Spurs on the other hand...if they miss the playoffs do you think Pop will step down? I have a feeling he wants to do the 2020 Olympics then maybe call it a day?
|
|
|
|
Post by connors on Dec 3, 2019 15:51:36 GMT
I'm surprised at the Raps although I think that they will come undone perhaps in a playoff scenario.
Melo has been a big plus to the Blazers but I was interested to hear that they are the number one ISO team in the NBA so maybe they really knew what they were doing when they took him on.
|
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Dec 4, 2019 14:13:21 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 21:36:51 GMT
Well they're not getting the win. That would be madness.
But is this really any different to one of the handful of mistakes made each game?
Suck it up. Move on
|
|
|
|
Post by connors on Dec 5, 2019 8:11:50 GMT
I've got to say I cannot recall seeing that before but agree with Hersey. You don't overturn the result just based on that otherwise where does it end?
|
|
|
|
Post by Colicab85 on Dec 5, 2019 8:18:55 GMT
There was 8 minutes left in regulation and 2 OTs, Houston were up 13 at that point.
Nonsense. Just the immensely dislikable Houston Rockets trying to get their way.
|
|
starman
Rookie
Posts: 47 
Favourite Team: Derby Trailblazers
|
Post by starman on Dec 5, 2019 8:42:55 GMT
Ridiculous. I watched the game. Houston scored a basket which was clearly a backcourt violation at the end of one period off an out of bounds play. There is no mention of that.
Like Dave says happens multiple times during a game. Get over it.
|
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Dec 5, 2019 20:43:27 GMT
No way the result changes but I wonder if they'll replay the last 8 minutes? I don't think they should, but it has been done before. The dunk itself is great to watch - never seen that happen to the ball before after being stuffed!
|
|
|
|
Post by Richyyy on Dec 5, 2019 20:47:10 GMT
I could certainly see the NBA classing this as being different. It's an error of the ball going through the basket and it not being counted, not just one of the many errors that allow a team a chance to score that they might not have had. But you definitely don't just give them the win. I think we all know that close basketball games play out very differently in the final stages depending on exactly how many points are between the teams, so you can't just add two on the Houston's score and say they would've won in regulation.
The problem is that even if they decide something should be done, what do they do? San Antonio will feel like they've already done the work of pulling off an unlikely comeback, so going back to 8 minutes left in the game with Houston up 15 wouldn't seem very fair on them. I'm not sure what kind of replay or re-start they could order without someone feeling thoroughly screwed.
|
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Dec 6, 2019 9:52:14 GMT
Apparently Portland has already guaranteed Melo's contract. That's a mistake in my opinion - one swallow doesn't make a spring and all that. They should have let it ride to the deadline to see how he goes over a longer period of time. Not just the on-court performances but his general locker room attitude. He's been good so far, I just worry that it won't last now he's guaranteed.
|
|
|
|
Post by SamH on Dec 9, 2019 12:13:09 GMT
Another bizarre ending over the weekend in the Thunder-Wolves game! www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/12/7/21000240/chris-paul-snitching-untucked-jersey-thunder-vs-wolves-ending-video
You have to love what CP3 did (unless you're a Wolves fan!) - just the alertness and knowing the rules, knowing Minnesota already had a delay of game. But even after that you still wouldn't have fancied them to get the win - that final possession has to be one of the plays of the season, Adams to Schroeder - terrific stuff. I wish I'd seen it live. If ever there was an example of "its not over til its over" - this was it. Jordan Bell will never have his jersey untucked again I suspect!  |
|
But he's right, though. I imagine Luka will join the club soon pretty soon. He's 
