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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 17:01:19 GMT
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Post by dandayr on Jan 12, 2021 19:00:33 GMT
at times he reminds me of the character played by John David Washington in Ballers. Maybe Kyrie has decided to model his real life on the excesses of footballers that program showed?
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Post by connors on Jan 13, 2021 8:11:28 GMT
Well said John Wall (when asked about Hardens comments about team not being good enough):
"I know how much hard work these guys put in ... to try to get better every day. I know how much work I put into it to get back and compete at a high level.
"There's a lot of guys here that want to compete at a high level. Like I told everybody tonight and told the guys before, when one through 15 guys are all on the same page and they commit and they know their role and they know what they want to get out of this and that's to win, it'll all be fine. But when you have certain guys in the mix that don't want to buy in all as one, it's going to be hard to do anything special or anything good as a basketball team."
This is the sort of statement KD should be making, as well as Steve Nash and Sean Marks about their AWOL player Kyrie Irving. Unbelievable what spoilt brats these players have become and such a shame as both incredibly talented individuals.
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Post by youngrocks on Jan 13, 2021 8:43:31 GMT
Absolutely and its a shame some high profile players seem to be so badly guided. Is this where the question needs to be raised that players do a minimum of 2 years at college?
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Post by connors on Jan 13, 2021 22:10:24 GMT
www.espn.com/nba/indexHarden to Nets in big 4 team trade. They will regret letting LaVert go. He’s been flipped to Indiana for Olidipo. I think the Rockets are winners here. If they keep Wall fit they will be decent. Talk of big 3 in Brooklyn premature. Kyrie can’t be bothered to play....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 22:36:29 GMT
Crazy days. Two of the league's delicate flowers may struggle with only 1 ball, though kyrie has to show up for that to be an issue. Boogie's comments are funny
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Post by faz on Jan 13, 2021 23:06:37 GMT
www.espn.com/nba/indexHarden to Nets in big 4 team trade. They will regret letting LaVert go. He’s been flipped to Indiana for Olidipo. I think the Rockets are winners here. If they keep Wall fit they will be decent. Talk of big 3 in Brooklyn premature. Kyrie can’t be bothered to play.... Jarret Allen will be missed. Good pick up for Cavs
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Post by dandayr on Jan 13, 2021 23:41:39 GMT
as a Rockets fan - I like this. The few games I have watched this season - dinot enjoy the ones where Harden played as he looked uninterested. Rather have a team who want to play and lose than a team who have a sulky guy dragging the squad down - and still lose! Roll on better days for coach.
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Post by connors on Jan 14, 2021 11:23:37 GMT
Agree Danday. I think with the team looks better balanced and Olidipo brings enough to the table when combined with JW.
On paper the Nets look strong but I think they will underachieve. Too many issues.
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Post by Solly on Jan 14, 2021 11:34:53 GMT
The pantomime in Brooklyn will only get worse now.
Harden tried to recreate the OKC link with Westbrook and it didn't work so now we'll see the re-creation of the link with Durant and that won't work either.
While Durant has a better chance of co-existing with Harden than Westbrook did, their egos are just too big. Who's team will it be?
Nash will have a helluva job to manage this pair.
And, of course, that's before you even consider Irving - he's been disruptive wherever he's gone. Clashing in Cleveland with Lebron, but at least, because of his newness to the league, he showed a little respect then.
So Irving has to go, but who want's to take a chance on him being prepared to knuckle down? No chance of that.
I went over to see New Jersey a couple of times back in the days of the likes of George Muhresan and Yinka Dare - they lost a lot but there was a likeable pluckiness about them. I don't like many of this current bunch - may as well top things off and see if they can get Dwight Howard in there as well
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Post by connors on Jan 15, 2021 7:47:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 21:56:00 GMT
Sean Marks. Solid, dependable, guy must wonder just what he's done, here
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 10:08:10 GMT
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Post by connors on Jan 20, 2021 10:23:03 GMT
Total claptrap. I guess he does not technically owe the public or the media an explanation. He certainly owes one to his employers and that is up to them to decide if it was acceptable or at least plausible.
From a PR perspective it would have helped his cause to have come up with something to give to the media and fans.
At the moment it feels like if he had an itchy backside he could miss a few weeks. Lets hope nothing happens in the world today that unsettles his delicate disposition...........
The really interesting thing for me is that the Nets look really good in their two games with Harden at the helm. In principle no reason at all why Kyrie and Harden could not exist in the same team but egos may well suggest otherwise. KD has proved he can certainly play with either of them (or anyone really) but both of them? If you were to suggest Curry was very broadly a similar type of player to Kyrie (VERY BROADLY) then you would also have to concede Thompson is nothing like Harden!! He is a pure catch and shoot guy. A guy who can score 40 and barely dribble the ball. Both he and Curry are masters at moving without the ball. Kyrie and Harden are famed for what they do with the ball and their handling skills. So I hope Kyrie comes back. It will be fascinating!
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Post by faz on Jan 23, 2021 12:46:59 GMT
Just a thought did Kyrie go missing to reduce his trade value?
Harden is a sensational player no doubt. Kyrie is a sensational player no doubt on that either but do you need to trade years of first round picks for a trade that actually weakens the balance of team.
Forget the picks if I was Steve Nash I’d trade Harden for Levertt, Allen and Prince!
Nets will be the most entertaining team in the league but could they win a 7 game series against a top team. Probably not.
Cavaliers are laughing all the way to the play offs!
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Post by connors on Jan 23, 2021 15:03:56 GMT
If you mean you would trade Kyrie to get those 3 Nets back then I would agree to some extent! Certainly would look to trade Kyrie and get somebody who they need to bolster defensive end and rebounding.
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Post by dandayr on Feb 2, 2021 23:53:13 GMT
thoughts on the new look Rockets and their six game streak - genuine turnaround or luck of the fixtures? I've not had chance to catch more than the brief highlights, but things looking so much brighter. With just a diff of 1 in the GB column between 4th and 10th in the western conf anything can happen with a couple more wins and shooting up the table further.
Sspect this pesky virus will throw in a few more twists and turns to the season, but Houston and play-off spot looks more realistic than it did during the will he wont he Harden saga days.
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Post by connors on Feb 3, 2021 16:31:43 GMT
I think Oladipo is an upgrade on an unhappy Harden. With Wall fit and Boogie able to contribute along with the Woods being a revelation they are much less one dimensional and certainly the Rockets who remain from the Harden era must be enjoying the style of play more now.
I guess their ceiling is not as high as it was with Harden but they made the best out of it. As long as Wall and Cousins stay fit.
To be fair the Nets seem to be doing better than I thought. Harden seems to be very willing at present to play the point in the games I've seen. In fact as a team they have sometimes been guilty of over passing! I am sure that the egos will clash at some point and defensively they are not good! If they could flip Kyrie for what they really need the combo of Durant, Harden and the shooting of Harris looks a very potent combination.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 20:13:55 GMT
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Post by connors on Feb 6, 2021 22:32:54 GMT
Crazy days....
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Post by voise on Feb 22, 2021 7:40:58 GMT
Looks like another ex-BBL playcaller about to pick up a Head Coaching role in the NBA, with Woj suggesting Chris Finch is taking over at the Timberwolves.
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Post by connors on Feb 22, 2021 10:38:40 GMT
Been a long road for him but he deserves a shot and cannot do any worse!
I've a huge backlog of games to catch up on but have just taken a look at the standings and cannot believe how well the Knicks are doing and how badly the Pels and Mavs are doing. Dallas need a rethink. Doncic is a generational talent and they need to build around him. Unicorn is not really getting it done at the no 2 but would be a very good no 3.....If they don't get Luka some help they will break the boy!
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Post by raiders92 on Feb 22, 2021 15:00:43 GMT
First proper look at zion last night having watched one of his games in its entirely god if he wants it he's unstoppable!! His had speed and strength was incredible!! Question I had was who is the more important player for them him or Ingram! Zion is great but Ingram is everything you need in the modern game!
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Post by connors on Feb 26, 2021 8:02:53 GMT
So Kyrie wants to change the NBA logo to a silhouette of Kobe Bryant. I have no issue with the league changing/updating the logo if they feel its appropriate. From a marketing and brand recognition perspective I think it is risky. Perhaps they might consider that the publicity generated and the "general similarity" to the original logo would balance that out?
However my issue is with it being Kobe Bryant. Why not Jordan? Or Magic? Shaq? Iverson? Duncan? etc.etc.
I greatly admire Kobe the player and he did a remarkable job when he retired of rehabilitating his public persona. Watching some of the documentaries and reading more about him gave me a good new perspective on him as a truly fierce competitor (unlike Kyrie) with incredible work ethic, intelligence and savvy. He was no angel though (neither were the others I mention above) and for me his tragic death is not reason enough to do this or for him to be at the front of queue.......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 20:55:03 GMT
No. The logo shouldn't be any individual. the NBA has never actually admitted it's Jerry West. What happens if someone else dies? where does it end?
The logo is iconic, just leave it alone.
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