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Post by stattojk on Mar 25, 2019 20:02:56 GMT
Other Nix fans certainly heard both terms being said by yourself and your fellow giants fan.
You even apologised for saying one of those exact words on the Giants fans facebook page. Go back and have a look. Other Giants fans heard you shout it on the livestream coverage.
We sat where we usually sit. I am used to travelling to every game and being surrounded by the home fans so it is no different when it happens at Giants.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:10:04 GMT
Other Nix fans certainly heard both terms being said by yourself and your fellow giants fan. You even apologised for saying one of those exact words on the Giants fans facebook page. Go back and have a look. Other Giants fans heard you shout it on the livestream coverage. We sat where we usually sit. I am used to travelling to every game and being surrounded by the home fans so it is no different when it happens at Giants. Which phoenix fans? And why are you bothering reading a giants fans Facebook page? #obsessed Also, I have checked... And I have never apologised for using either word you claim I said. I did apologise for shouting at the ref at the second Phoenix game, but I never said either of those words, and in fact other fans have stated it wasn't that bad. |
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Post by allgoodnix on Mar 25, 2019 20:12:51 GMT
Ben, I am the Nix fan who did indeed complain about you and the other adult in your party. However I only complained to the Giants management by email and I am happy to share this email chain if you wish to see it. Giants responded to my email and copied in the Nix organisation in their response, therefore alerting them to my complaint. I had not discussed it with Nix, but Giants chose to include them in the email. Now for my complaint. Ben, you and I have spoken in the past when you were a Nix fan and indeed I have tried to get you on the away guest list when possible. I don't know what your issue was when deciding to move from Nix to Giants. I just knew you moved, but that is your choice and I don't have any issues with that. However, your language (along with your fellow Giants fan next to you who is also mentioned in my complaint) at the Giants v Nix game in question was appalling. There were children in the stand and to hear adults shout "you are a fat c**t" and "k***head" towards Nix players and referees was terrible. If any Nix fan came out with similar language in my hearing, I would say something to them, but I did not feel comfortable saying this to you at the time. I was undecided on what to do at this point but during the 4th quarter I attempted to find a member of club management to speak to about this matter. I couldn't find an appropriate person to speak to so then proceeded to send the email. Prior to sending the email, I was also made aware of certain comments made about me on the Giants fans facebook page. Comments such as "I need to be throttled" and that "I need to eat my drum" which were not particularly nice to read but especially hypocritical considering your fans also have drums and musical instruments. Admittedly you did not write either of these but you knew who your friend was talking about and you went along with the "banter" which I actually found upsetting especially when all I ever did was enable your support where possible at Nix. All that aside though, as I said above, the response received from Giants alerted Nix to my complaint. Therefore I can only assume that this, combined with comments you made about the Nix management more recently (of which I am only aware of from your previous apology post), has led them to make this decision. None of which has been discussed with me. I just wanted to clarify the complaint that was made, why it was made and by whom. I can categorically state that I never said anything that you have stated above. Its very easy to make up such statements, but I definitely never used the C word, neither did I call anyone a 'knob head'. Its funny that nothing has ever been said to me about this either by the Giants, or other Nix fans who were around me at the time who shook my hand at the end, and who walked out of the game with me catching up on old times. I doubt they would do this if I was as rude and offensive as you claim. Or maybe you have made this up because you didn't like the fact that we dared to sit in our reserved seats and cheered on another team. At what point are you going to admit you were wrong to say the things you did and ‘banter’ with the threats that were made and apologise. How dare you make out that she is lying. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:18:15 GMT
I can categorically state that I never said anything that you have stated above. Its very easy to make up such statements, but I definitely never used the C word, neither did I call anyone a 'knob head'. Its funny that nothing has ever been said to me about this either by the Giants, or other Nix fans who were around me at the time who shook my hand at the end, and who walked out of the game with me catching up on old times. I doubt they would do this if I was as rude and offensive as you claim. Or maybe you have made this up because you didn't like the fact that we dared to sit in our reserved seats and cheered on another team. At what point are you going to admit you were wrong to say the things you did and ‘banter’ with the threats that were made and apologise. How dare you make out that she is lying. Threats... What are you on about? And they are a lie, she can't even get the games right. The game I apologised for on the Giants fans fb page was the second game when I shouted something towards the refs, and it definitely wasn't the C word. |
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Post by allgoodnix on Mar 25, 2019 20:20:54 GMT
obsessed 😂😂
I remember you posting about how you left because you didn’t feel like you were part of the clique.
I would just like to say I am sorry if we as Phoenix fans made you feel unwelcome and not part of the ‘inner circle’ when you were a following the team causing you to jump ship.
It’s funny that I don’t remember it that way. I do however remember my best friend went out of her way to ensure you were always on the guest list for away games.
The same best friend that you have just made out to be a liar.
The same best friend that had to listen to a giants fan call one of our players the C word & you calling some one a knobhead.
All this before reading on social media that she nearly got throttled for using a drum to support the team she has been supporting for over a decade.
May I also point out at this point that giants fans use numerous musical instruments to support their team.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:26:46 GMT
obsessed 😂😂 I remember you posting about how you left because you didn’t feel like you were part of the clique. I would just like to say I am sorry if we as Phoenix fans made you feel unwelcome and not part of the ‘inner circle’ when you were a following the team causing you to jump ship. It’s funny that I don’t remember it that way. I do however remember my best friend went out of her way to ensure you were always on the guest list for away games. The same best friend that you have just made out to be a liar. The same best friend that had to listen to a giants fan call one of our players the C word & you calling some one a knobhead. All this before reading on social media that she nearly got throttled for using a drum to support the team she has been supporting for over a decade. May I also point out at this point that giants fans use numerous musical instruments to support their team. Ahhh... So the story is changing now... Before it was me using the C word... Now. Its a 'giants fan'. I also don't know what me changing clubs has anything to do with this. Or maybe it does to you... And thats why this has been made up. Also saying I was always on the guest list is a lie too... On 30th January last year - "You are top of my list for whos asked for tickets" However... 2 days before the game:- "Hi Ben. Team tickets have come back and as expected there are a lot. Apologies but i cant get many fans at all on this list which I did potentially expect to be thr case. Sorry. There are still tickets available through the website though. Thanks" Top of the list?  ?? |
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Post by allgoodnix on Mar 25, 2019 20:32:36 GMT
obsessed 😂😂 I remember you posting about how you left because you didn’t feel like you were part of the clique. I would just like to say I am sorry if we as Phoenix fans made you feel unwelcome and not part of the ‘inner circle’ when you were a following the team causing you to jump ship. It’s funny that I don’t remember it that way. I do however remember my best friend went out of her way to ensure you were always on the guest list for away games. The same best friend that you have just made out to be a liar. The same best friend that had to listen to a giants fan call one of our players the C word & you calling some one a knobhead. All this before reading on social media that she nearly got throttled for using a drum to support the team she has been supporting for over a decade. May I also point out at this point that giants fans use numerous musical instruments to support their team. Ahhh... So the story is changing now... Before it was me using the C word... Now. Its a 'giants fan'. I also don't know what me changing clubs has anything to do with this. Or maybe it does to you... And thats why this has been made up. Actually if you go back and read Statto’s first post it states that both you and the giants fan sitting next to you were complained about for the foul language. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:36:08 GMT
Guys I'm doing a popcorn run, anyone want anything from the consessions stand?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:36:54 GMT
Ahhh... So the story is changing now... Before it was me using the C word... Now. Its a 'giants fan'. I also don't know what me changing clubs has anything to do with this. Or maybe it does to you... And thats why this has been made up. Actually if you go back and read Statto’s first post it states that both you and the giants fan sitting next to you were complained about for the foul language. So ive been banned for maybe calling someone a knob... Once... Wow. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 25, 2019 20:38:14 GMT
Guys I'm doing a popcorn run, anyone want anything from the consessions stand? Please mate. Next rounds on me. |
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Post by 2NFR on Mar 25, 2019 20:38:44 GMT
Yep mate, get me some ... looks like I'm on point tonight  Hopefully, it will stay civil as I don't want to have to...  edit Note: The C word is banned on here, John has nothing to do with this  |
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Post by stattojk on Mar 25, 2019 20:44:22 GMT
obsessed 😂😂 I remember you posting about how you left because you didn’t feel like you were part of the clique. I would just like to say I am sorry if we as Phoenix fans made you feel unwelcome and not part of the ‘inner circle’ when you were a following the team causing you to jump ship. It’s funny that I don’t remember it that way. I do however remember my best friend went out of her way to ensure you were always on the guest list for away games. The same best friend that you have just made out to be a liar. The same best friend that had to listen to a giants fan call one of our players the C word & you calling some one a knobhead. All this before reading on social media that she nearly got throttled for using a drum to support the team she has been supporting for over a decade. May I also point out at this point that giants fans use numerous musical instruments to support their team. Ahhh... So the story is changing now... Before it was me using the C word... Now. Its a 'giants fan'. I also don't know what me changing clubs has anything to do with this. Or maybe it does to you... And thats why this has been made up. There is no story change. In my complaint and my post above I stated that the language from both you and the adult in your party used foul language. I never stated who said what. You just assumed. After the 1st game, you did apologise on facebook. You may have after the 2nd game also but I did not see that. I can find it for you if you would prefer. I will not be called a liar. In terms of going on the page, as I already stated, I was made aware of it because your friend who sat next to you at the game made comments about wanting to "throttle me" because of the drum I was banging. For the record, that is the only reason I ever went on the page, to see what was being said about me, which I found quite upsetting. Anyways, as I said, if you would like me to forward the email chain to you then I am more than happy to. Just don't call me a liar, especially when you have apologised for it yourself already on a public page. I doubt your ban is solely down to my email to Giants. It may also have something to do with your run in with Nix management. I actually thought I was doing the right thing by actually telling you who had sent the complaint. How wrong I was. |
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Post by gloryeagle on Mar 25, 2019 20:45:15 GMT
It would be interesting to know what evidence Nix had before making the decision to ban Ben. One would hope they haven't followed the modern day musing of guilty until proved innocent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:46:07 GMT
So.. A recap for those joining us late.
Apparently back in January, I may or may not have called a ref a knobhead.
However, nothing was said to me and I wasn't banned, and in fact attended a game at Phoenix vs Royals.
At that game there was a misunderstanding, to which Mike Burton called and text me (how he got my number is still being investigated) and stated that if I didn't apologise I would be banned. I did what was asked.
However today I was informed I was banned for my abusive behaviour.. At that game above, which wasn't at the Phoenix and to which I wasn't banned before the Royals game.
So make your own minds up why im banned.
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Post by saintpat on Mar 25, 2019 20:46:36 GMT
I've a fair guess who stattojk is, & if it is that person then I would believe totally what they are saying. Absolutely trustworthy & honest person who I have a huge amount of time for.
Of course if it isn't that person, then who the hell knows what's going on!!
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Post by allgoodnix on Mar 25, 2019 20:50:13 GMT
I've a fair guess who stattojk is, & if it is that person then I would believe totally what they are saying. Absolutely trustworthy & honest person who I have a huge amount of time for. Of course if it isn't that person, then who the hell knows what's going on!! It is that person!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:53:22 GMT
Ahhh... So the story is changing now... Before it was me using the C word... Now. Its a 'giants fan'. I also don't know what me changing clubs has anything to do with this. Or maybe it does to you... And thats why this has been made up. There is no story change. In my complaint and my post above I stated that the language from both you and the adult in your party used foul language. I never stated who said what. You just assumed. After the 1st game, you did apologise on facebook. You may have after the 2nd game also but I did not see that. I can find it for you if you would prefer. I will not be called a liar. In terms of going on the page, as I already stated, I was made aware of it because your friend who sat next to you at the game made comments about wanting to "throttle me" because of the drum I was banging. For the record, that is the only reason I ever went on the page, to see what was being said about me, which I found quite upsetting. Anyways, as I said, if you would like me to forward the email chain to you then I am more than happy to. Just don't call me a liar, especially when you have apologised for it yourself already on a public page. I doubt your ban is solely down to my email to Giants. It may also have something to do with your run in with Nix management. I actually thought I was doing the right thing by actually telling you who had sent the complaint. How wrong I was. A few points here, firstly yes, i called the ref a knobhead, if you are offended by that then I think you need to maybe go have a lie down. The person I was with may have said that about someone with a drum... I have no idea what this has got to do with me or my ban, are you responsible for all nix fans behaviours? So thats it, I called ref a knobhead? |
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Post by allgoodnix on Mar 25, 2019 20:55:32 GMT
So.. A recap for those joining us late. Apparently back in January, I may or may not have called a ref a knobhead. However, nothing was said to me and I wasn't banned, and in fact attended a game at Phoenix vs Royals. At that game there was a misunderstanding, to which Mike Burton called and text me (how he got my number is still being investigated) and stated that if I didn't apologise I would be banned. I did what was asked. However today I was informed I was banned for my abusive behaviour.. At that game above, which wasn't at the Phoenix and to which I wasn't banned before the Royals game. So make your own minds up why im banned. In conclusion your friend who dropped the C Bomb should also be holding his hand up to apologise. But from what I can tell he’s nowhere to be seen or backing you up. Unlike Nix fans who are sticking together. Great fellow fans you have their Ben. Seem they are too busy making memes. |
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Post by samgray on Mar 25, 2019 20:59:14 GMT
This is genius. Well done to all those involved 👏
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 20:59:28 GMT
So.. A recap for those joining us late. Apparently back in January, I may or may not have called a ref a knobhead. However, nothing was said to me and I wasn't banned, and in fact attended a game at Phoenix vs Royals. At that game there was a misunderstanding, to which Mike Burton called and text me (how he got my number is still being investigated) and stated that if I didn't apologise I would be banned. I did what was asked. However today I was informed I was banned for my abusive behaviour.. At that game above, which wasn't at the Phoenix and to which I wasn't banned before the Royals game. So make your own minds up why im banned. In conclusion your friend who dropped the C Bomb should also be holding his hand up to apologise. But from what I can tell he’s nowhere to be seen or backing you up. Unlike Nix fans who are sticking together. Great fellow fans you have their Ben. Seem they are too busy making memes. He doesn't use this forum and I didn't hear him use that word. |
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Post by faz on Mar 25, 2019 21:01:51 GMT
I’ve heard bad language at most venues from fans players and coaches. If there’s a ban for that there wouldn’t be many attending at all. Abuse to refs seems almost mandatory from what I’ve heard at games.
Anyway I’m sure it’s a one match ban aka the same as Session gobbing in someone’s face
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Post by 2NFR on Mar 25, 2019 21:07:33 GMT
Seem they are too busy making memes. /dicaprio3-583e33155f9b58d5b19e3a00.jpg) |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 25, 2019 21:09:59 GMT
Dp
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 25, 2019 21:10:28 GMT
I got called a big Jessy 2 minutes in at the Emirates arena by an old boy who had courtside seats once.
I went over at the end and lauded his accuracy.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 25, 2019 21:11:43 GMT
Ben, I am the Nix fan who did indeed complain about you and the other adult in your party. However I only complained to the Giants management by email and I am happy to share this email chain if you wish to see it. Giants responded to my email and copied in the Nix organisation in their response, therefore alerting them to my complaint. I had not discussed it with Nix, but Giants chose to include them in the email. Now for my complaint. Ben, you and I have spoken in the past when you were a Nix fan and indeed I have tried to get you on the away guest list when possible. I don't know what your issue was when deciding to move from Nix to Giants. I just knew you moved, but that is your choice and I don't have any issues with that. However, your language (along with your fellow Giants fan next to you who is also mentioned in my complaint) at the Giants v Nix game in question was appalling. There were children in the stand and to hear adults shout "you are a fat c**t" and "k***head" towards Nix players and referees was terrible. If any Nix fan came out with similar language in my hearing, I would say something to them, but I did not feel comfortable saying this to you at the time. I was undecided on what to do at this point but during the 4th quarter I attempted to find a member of club management to speak to about this matter. I couldn't find an appropriate person to speak to so then proceeded to send the email. Prior to sending the email, I was also made aware of certain comments made about me on the Giants fans facebook page. Comments such as "I need to be throttled" and that "I need to eat my drum" which were not particularly nice to read but especially hypocritical considering your fans also have drums and musical instruments. Admittedly you did not write either of these but you knew who your friend was talking about and you went along with the "banter" which I actually found upsetting especially when all I ever did was enable your support where possible at Nix. All that aside though, as I said above, the response received from Giants alerted Nix to my complaint. Therefore I can only assume that this, combined with comments you made about the Nix management more recently (of which I am only aware of from your previous apology post), has led them to make this decision. None of which has been discussed with me. I just wanted to clarify the complaint that was made, why it was made and by whom. Fair play for posting. Is it possible you misheard Ben? Ben if it wasn't you who used the c word - is it possible it was your friend or someone close to you? Im trying to help both of you here by the way. Have a seat with me 2NFR and Mr. Tall. It’s my round, just let this play out. |
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