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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:15:08 GMT
So.... even though I apologised as requested for my post, I have just been informed that Phoenix have banned me from attending the EPSV to support the Giants when we play there.
Apparently there have been "Complaints of foul and abusive language at games" even though I've only been there twice this season.. and on both occasions never used foul and abusive language, and to which there is no evidence. And also because I had some banter on their facebook page.
So there you go people, be very careful what you say about Phoenix or then will ban you....
UPDATE:
Apparently I was never abusive at EPSV, but there was a complaint made about me when Phoenix played at Giants... something which I was never made aware of by the Giants..
So I've been banned for being abusive at my own court and not by the home club .. very odd.
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Post by fozzie on Mar 25, 2019 11:58:42 GMT
Was this to do with the owner getting arsey about your boy earring a Giants top or something?
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Post by dunkindonut on Mar 25, 2019 12:11:49 GMT
Very strange, it has to be someone you know from your Nix days for them to provide your name.
Bar my mate I go with I couldn't tell you the name of any other spectator.
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Post by foxprorawks on Mar 25, 2019 12:26:35 GMT
So.... even though I apologised as requested for my post, I have just been informed that Phoenix have banned me from attending the EPSV to support the Giants when we play there.
Apparently there have been "Complaints of foul and abusive language at games" even though I've only been there twice this season.. and on both occasions never used foul and abusive language, and to which there is no evidence. And also because I had some banter on their facebook page.
So there you go people, be very careful what you say about Phoenix or then will ban you....
UPDATE:
Apparently I was never abusive at EPSV, but there was a complaint made about me when Phoenix played at Giants... something which I was never made aware of by the Giants..
So I've been banned for being abusive at my own court and not by the home club .. very odd.
Yeah, I think I'm still banned from their Facebook page, for correcting their lies. They are a bunch of wallopers. Unfortunately, they can refuse entry to their events to anyone they want, so you have no recourse as far as I know.
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Post by gloryeagle on Mar 25, 2019 12:28:56 GMT
All sounds a bit pitch fork wielding villager this. Cheshire have always come across like that as a club to me. Not directed at anybody personally I'm sure there's some great people within the club too, just the impression that's given off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 13:10:43 GMT
All sounds a bit pitch fork wielding villager this. Cheshire have always come across like that as a club to me. Not directed at anybody personally I'm sure there's some great people within the club too, just the impression that's given off. Agreed. Plymouth ran them close when Potato Head & his mate where there, but they've always struck me as the most paranoid pro club (there's an NBL club not too far from me who give them a run) around. The very fact that two of their lackeys (aided an abetted by Sam H) actually closed whatsbev for a fortnight to stop people criticising their club on here is as much proof as I need. I think Ben should dress as a woman and see if he gets in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 14:30:23 GMT
While i'm not going to comment on What'sBev's longest running tiff, Sam definitely had nothing to do with that particular decision.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 25, 2019 14:36:39 GMT
All sounds a bit pitch fork wielding villager this.
Reallyold came after me with a paintbrush and tin once, but never a pitchfork.....
In all honesty and whilst I've not been to a game in a while - I've never had anything but a warm welcome from the Nix and their fans. And God knows I've had run ins with Burt before.
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Post by fauxnicks on Mar 25, 2019 14:46:25 GMT
I heard Rolls-Tyson being abusive yesterday - can we ban him as well please!
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Post by nixette on Mar 25, 2019 14:48:07 GMT
I think giants should show support to their fans and respond in kind😂
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Post by 2NFR on Mar 25, 2019 15:00:34 GMT
I think giants should show support to their fans and respond in kind😂 Yeahh !! ban that nixette , she's way too cocky on whatsbev
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:03:14 GMT
While i'm not going to comment on What'sBev's longest running tiff, Sam definitely had nothing to do with that particular decision. Well he should have.it was a massive abuse of power that he helped allow to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:07:46 GMT
I must add that I have never had issues with Phoenix fans, including others on the management board. In fact, at the game where I was supposed to be 'abusive' I actually had a good laugh with a number of the Phoenix fans who decided to sit around my reserved season ticket seats, a number of these fans post on here.
I know where this comes from..... I think you all do too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:25:25 GMT
Thank God it's not using doing this crap anymore, sorry to hear it ben
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Post by saintpat on Mar 25, 2019 15:40:07 GMT
They can be a bit sensitive at Phoenix but it's generally a very friendly venue to visit.
I understand that Phoenix can ban whoever they like but it seems petty to me. If someone has been aggressive & threatening that's one thing but because someone may or may not have sworn at a different venue is way OTT.
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Post by faz on Mar 25, 2019 16:07:31 GMT
I remember Creppygate and their was a fair bit of abuse directed to rocks and the bbl by a minoriity of Nix fans. Largely from the sponsors wife on twitter. Did they get banned? Err no!!! Vast majory of people at the club are top bananas!!!👍
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Post by dunkindonut on Mar 25, 2019 16:08:24 GMT
I must add that I have never had issues with Phoenix fans, including others on the management board. In fact, at the game where I was supposed to be 'abusive' I actually had a good laugh with a number of the Phoenix fans who decided to sit around my reserved season ticket seats, a number of these fans post on here. I know where this comes from..... I think you all do too. Reserved season ticket seats? Is that sarcasm or genuine as I've never seen signs pointing towards it. BTW as Phoenix don't own the EPSV and only rent the hall on match days, could you not just go and watch the game from the public walkway balcony above the court?
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Post by faz on Mar 25, 2019 16:10:46 GMT
So that’s bbben and the guy from eagles.
Could they ban a few players to secure their play off spot?😂
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 25, 2019 16:18:31 GMT
So that’s bbben and the guy from eagles. Could they ban a few players to secure their play off spot?😂 Which guy from Eagles?
Please not Dougy? He's a BBL legend himself!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 16:39:56 GMT
I must add that I have never had issues with Phoenix fans, including others on the management board. In fact, at the game where I was supposed to be 'abusive' I actually had a good laugh with a number of the Phoenix fans who decided to sit around my reserved season ticket seats, a number of these fans post on here. I know where this comes from..... I think you all do too. Reserved season ticket seats? Is that sarcasm or genuine as I've never seen signs pointing towards it. BTW as Phoenix don't own the EPSV and only rent the hall on match days, could you not just go and watch the game from the public walkway balcony above the court? At the old arena each season ticket holder had reserved seats, unfortunately at the George H its not been possible this season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 16:54:13 GMT
I remember Creppygate and their was a fair bit of abuse directed to rocks and the bbl by a minoriity of Nix fans. Largely from the sponsors wife on twitter. Did they get banned? Err no!!! Vast majory of people at the club are top bananas!!!👍 Chairman's wife... That whole episode was utterly appalling and really showed quite a few people in a terrible light. Nothing that's happened since has improved my opinion. It's a sports club, not a cult. I dunno why people forget that.
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Post by stattojk on Mar 25, 2019 18:38:40 GMT
Ben, I am the Nix fan who did indeed complain about you and the other adult in your party. However I only complained to the Giants management by email and I am happy to share this email chain if you wish to see it.
Giants responded to my email and copied in the Nix organisation in their response, therefore alerting them to my complaint. I had not discussed it with Nix, but Giants chose to include them in the email.
Now for my complaint.
Ben, you and I have spoken in the past when you were a Nix fan and indeed I have tried to get you on the away guest list when possible. I don't know what your issue was when deciding to move from Nix to Giants. I just knew you moved, but that is your choice and I don't have any issues with that.
However, your language (along with your fellow Giants fan next to you who is also mentioned in my complaint) at the Giants v Nix game in question was appalling. There were children in the stand and to hear adults shout "you are a fat c**t" and "k***head" towards Nix players and referees was terrible. If any Nix fan came out with similar language in my hearing, I would say something to them, but I did not feel comfortable saying this to you at the time.
I was undecided on what to do at this point but during the 4th quarter I attempted to find a member of club management to speak to about this matter. I couldn't find an appropriate person to speak to so then proceeded to send the email.
Prior to sending the email, I was also made aware of certain comments made about me on the Giants fans facebook page. Comments such as "I need to be throttled" and that "I need to eat my drum" which were not particularly nice to read but especially hypocritical considering your fans also have drums and musical instruments.
Admittedly you did not write either of these but you knew who your friend was talking about and you went along with the "banter" which I actually found upsetting especially when all I ever did was enable your support where possible at Nix.
All that aside though, as I said above, the response received from Giants alerted Nix to my complaint. Therefore I can only assume that this, combined with comments you made about the Nix management more recently (of which I am only aware of from your previous apology post), has led them to make this decision. None of which has been discussed with me. I just wanted to clarify the complaint that was made, why it was made and by whom.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Mar 25, 2019 19:03:27 GMT
What will BBBen say in response?
Find out in the next episode of “BBLerdale”
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Post by samgray on Mar 25, 2019 19:09:02 GMT
Probably just drop the c bomb 😬
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 19:30:23 GMT
Ben, I am the Nix fan who did indeed complain about you and the other adult in your party. However I only complained to the Giants management by email and I am happy to share this email chain if you wish to see it. Giants responded to my email and copied in the Nix organisation in their response, therefore alerting them to my complaint. I had not discussed it with Nix, but Giants chose to include them in the email. Now for my complaint. Ben, you and I have spoken in the past when you were a Nix fan and indeed I have tried to get you on the away guest list when possible. I don't know what your issue was when deciding to move from Nix to Giants. I just knew you moved, but that is your choice and I don't have any issues with that. However, your language (along with your fellow Giants fan next to you who is also mentioned in my complaint) at the Giants v Nix game in question was appalling. There were children in the stand and to hear adults shout "you are a fat c**t" and "k***head" towards Nix players and referees was terrible. If any Nix fan came out with similar language in my hearing, I would say something to them, but I did not feel comfortable saying this to you at the time. I was undecided on what to do at this point but during the 4th quarter I attempted to find a member of club management to speak to about this matter. I couldn't find an appropriate person to speak to so then proceeded to send the email. Prior to sending the email, I was also made aware of certain comments made about me on the Giants fans facebook page. Comments such as "I need to be throttled" and that "I need to eat my drum" which were not particularly nice to read but especially hypocritical considering your fans also have drums and musical instruments. Admittedly you did not write either of these but you knew who your friend was talking about and you went along with the "banter" which I actually found upsetting especially when all I ever did was enable your support where possible at Nix. All that aside though, as I said above, the response received from Giants alerted Nix to my complaint. Therefore I can only assume that this, combined with comments you made about the Nix management more recently (of which I am only aware of from your previous apology post), has led them to make this decision. None of which has been discussed with me. I just wanted to clarify the complaint that was made, why it was made and by whom. I can categorically state that I never said anything that you have stated above. Its very easy to make up such statements, but I definitely never used the C word. Its funny that nothing has ever been said to me about this either by the Giants, or other Nix fans who were around me at the time who shook my hand at the end, and who walked out of the game with me catching up on old times. I doubt they would do this if I was as rude and offensive as you claim. Or maybe you have made this up because you didn't like the fact that we dared to sit in our reserved seats and cheered on another team.
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