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Post by blacknwhite on Jul 24, 2019 6:44:51 GMT
Just seen Kai is still working out at the ECA. whether that means anything or not remains to be seen.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 6:45:48 GMT
Deondre Parks liked the new signing tweet within seconds of it being posted apparently Maybe it's him
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 7:01:36 GMT
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Post by blacknwhite on Jul 24, 2019 7:07:48 GMT
Deondre Parks liked the new signing tweet within seconds of it being posted apparently Maybe it's him I would happily see Dre Parks or Dre Jones back on Tyneside. They’ve both been keeping up with the team since leaving and wouldn’t be surprised to see either of them make a reappearance tbh. I know Parks in particular would love to return.
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Post by blacknwhite on Jul 24, 2019 7:09:04 GMT
Good start to what needs to be a bit of a rebuild undoubtedly. Just hope there’s not TOO many familiar faces.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 7:09:16 GMT
Fletch:
“My message to the fans is get ready for a fun and hardworking team and a roster that gets back to what made us so strong in the past.
“We want to bring back the intensity and grit that our culture was built on – as well as hoping everybody has a fun and entertaining season!”
Be interesting to see what changes
At the start of last season Fletch said similar about needing to be "relentless" every game
Sounded good back then but they didn't have the squad to deliver
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Post by baldeagle on Jul 24, 2019 7:43:36 GMT
"At the start of last season Fletch said similar about needing to be "relentless" every game. Sounded good back then but they didn't have the squad to deliver."
Good to see IRF resorting to type. Comes to something when POTUS makes more sense than IRF!
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Post by baldeagle on Jul 24, 2019 7:46:10 GMT
Great to see Fletch back in Newcastle - we can all debate the relative merits of the likes of him and Justin but nobody can deny that he is one of the most talented and entertaining players in the league. Now all the Eagles have to do is build a team around him who are better equipped than last year.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 7:59:01 GMT
Great to see Fletch back in Newcastle - we can all debate the relative merits of the likes of him and Justin but nobody can deny that he is one of the most talented and entertaining players in the league. Now all the Eagles have to do is build a team around him who are better equipped than last year. You say I don't talk sense but you are agreeing with me at same time?? If you don't give Fletch better, hungrier, fitter players around him then you won't compete for the league Last year Fletch knew what was needed. It didn't happen. He's telling you what's needed this year above. But without signing the right players it won't happen again. So like I say will be interesting to see what changes The budget will be there to spend. The Williams brothers won't be cheap - there's an opportunity there to find better. Let's see who you go out and replace them with (assuming you do replace them)
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Post by baldeagle on Jul 24, 2019 8:01:16 GMT
Well, we will have to wait and see. Maybe you're afraid (very afraid) IRF?
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 8:05:05 GMT
Actually, given how bad Jamal Williams was I reckon he'd be a bargain basement price - except he's no bargain. His days as a significant player are done I think.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 8:06:22 GMT
Any team would be delighted to have Fletcher on their roster. Great start.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 8:14:07 GMT
Well, we will have to wait and see. Maybe you're afraid (very afraid) IRF? I will tell you after I see who you sign Apart from Fletch any of last season's players you bring back now is a missed opportunity to spend your budget better IMO Some tough decisions need to be made rather than lazy decisions Saying that I could understand Defoe and Lasker once more as bench players as its hard to replace an entire squad. But both of them will be expensive for bench players and are at the end of their careers now. Would expect the coach should be looking at what else their wages could bring to the club in comparison Fab needs to stop playing as well for sure. It's a shame as he would break some longevity records this year I think. But it's just a distraction he doesn't need now IMO
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Post by notoriousbigz on Jul 24, 2019 8:16:08 GMT
Well, we will have to wait and see. Maybe you're afraid (very afraid) IRF? I will tell you after I see who you sign Apart from Fletch any of last season's players you bring back now is a missed opportunity to spend your budget better IMO Some tough decisions need to be made rather than lazy decisions Saying that I could understand Defoe and Lasker once more as bench players as its hard to replace an entire squad Fab needs to stop playing as well for sure. It's a shame as he would break some longevity records this year I think. But it's just a distraction he doesn't need now IMO Who would you sign at Eagles then, given the driving seat?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 8:32:36 GMT
I will tell you after I see who you sign Apart from Fletch any of last season's players you bring back now is a missed opportunity to spend your budget better IMO Some tough decisions need to be made rather than lazy decisions Saying that I could understand Defoe and Lasker once more as bench players as its hard to replace an entire squad Fab needs to stop playing as well for sure. It's a shame as he would break some longevity records this year I think. But it's just a distraction he doesn't need now IMO Who would you sign at Eagles then, given the driving seat? With the money they must spend on Defoe, Lasker, and the Williams brothers I would be scouring the leagues for younger, more athletic Brits We've just signed one - Jesse Chuku. He won't be cheap. You can argue they need young and hungry Brits far more than we do. But we've gone out and found him. I would have tried my utmost to tempt Ward Hibbert from us. Exactly the type of Brit they need to replace their older Brits and instil some energy and athleticism into their squad Would have done my utmost to try and sign Conner Washington and pair him up with Fletch. What a statement that would have been to the league as to their intent to become dominant again. Even Raheem May Thompson ? I'm sure theres better out there - but he would be a start for younger hungrier Brits Jordan Spencer from lions? Someone mentioned Jordan Williams? I've answered using names I know. Obviously I'd never heard of Chuku. I'm sure there are better names out there But my point is they need Brits in their prime. Not Brits past their sell by dates. They are an old squad in a more hungry and athletic league than in the past. They need a new approach. Arguably the biggest club in BBL - they should go for these statement signings rather than keeping what they have which isn't working I would also be looking for more roles Defoe and Lasker can do for the club off court to justify their wages as they contribute less on court They need to start thinking about earning money without basketball Keep them but be clever with the budgets Tuck at Sharks is an example where he is still there but potentially earning some of his playing wage doing other stuff now There's not enough money in basketball to not have to try all the angles to get a bigger and better squad
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 8:37:12 GMT
I will tell you after I see who you sign Apart from Fletch any of last season's players you bring back now is a missed opportunity to spend your budget better IMO Some tough decisions need to be made rather than lazy decisions Saying that I could understand Defoe and Lasker once more as bench players as its hard to replace an entire squad Fab needs to stop playing as well for sure. It's a shame as he would break some longevity records this year I think. But it's just a distraction he doesn't need now IMO Who would you sign at Eagles then, given the driving seat? If they don't significantly shake things up this season then you can write them off again for the league before the season even starts Even though Moses is quality I'm not sure he's a good player to bring back due to games he will miss So there's a tough decision Defoe you want him but depends how much salary he takes and who else you could get who can play all season Same for Lasker. What are the alternatives for the money? He's 37 now. They also need to find 2 Europeans this season of quality IMO Spend their budget better If you read Fletch's message you get the impression there will be a new approach so let's see
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 8:50:54 GMT
Who would you sign at Eagles then, given the driving seat? If they don't significantly shake things up this season then you can write them off again for the league before the season even starts Even though Moses is quality I'm not sure he's a good player to bring back due to games he will miss So there's a tough decision Defoe you want him but depends how much salary he takes and who else you could get who can play all season Same for Lasker. What are the alternatives for the money? He's 37 now. They also need to find 2 Europeans this season of quality IMO Spend their budget better If you read Fletch's message you get the impression there will be a new approach so let's see Toughest decision of the lot has to be Fab. He was the best player coach ever in BBL He won't be cheap So I imagine right now he is a very expensive coach. You can't count him as a player even if he still does play That means he needs to show he is a great coach again to justify the big wage he will be on He can't rely on glories 4 or 5 years ago much longer I think 2 seasons ago there was something on Eagles social media saying Fab was also evaluating himself as what they had shown wasn't good enough by Eagles standars Since then they've got worse not better in terms of competing for trophies Despite having Fletch??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 15:13:34 GMT
Majority of Laskers wage comes from him coaching gateshead academy, hes a steal in newcastle but would demand more elsewhere.
Defoe, probably being paid more than hes worth
Fab, doubtful he takes a playing wage at all
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 15:34:16 GMT
Majority of Laskers wage comes from him coaching gateshead academy, hes a steal in newcastle but would demand more elsewhere. Defoe, probably being paid more than hes worth Fab, doubtful he takes a playing wage at all Fab has been a player coach and a legend for Eagles for 10 plus years Are you telling me he has been asked to take pay cuts every season he has deteriorated as a player? I doubt that very much. I would imagine he is amongst the highest paid BBL employees in the game. And we know he gets a penthouse alongside that. I imagine he gets a car etc. Quite rightly. He's earnt it all. He's earnt the legendary status and I accept its a difficult situation with him if Eagles did want to try something different. You can't imagine they would ever want to sack him Hence why him getting a job in Toronto might have helped all concerned if they wanted to try another route That would release a lot of money to replace him As it is the money he must earn means he needs to deliver very well as a coach. And he hasn't last few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 16:07:10 GMT
I'd probably say hes the highest paid wage in the bbl. But that wage will be for a coach and he can play if he chooses if that makes sense. The £xxxxx playing budget wont include him taking any from the budget.
I agree he needs to leave before it gets awkward in the NE tho
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 24, 2019 16:47:23 GMT
I'd probably say hes the highest paid wage in the bbl. But that wage will be for a coach and he can play if he chooses if that makes sense. The £xxxxx playing budget wont include him taking any from the budget. I agree he needs to leave before it gets awkward in the NE tho Leave or deliver the league again. It's still very much in his hands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 8:09:09 GMT
I didn't know Jesse Chuku was ever lost , but 5hen I was watching him in 2011. Before basketball was invented. IRF's obsession with Fab and his deficiencies are getting a tad tedious. Anything he brings as a player is a freebie , incidentally
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 25, 2019 9:06:48 GMT
I didn't know Jesse Chuku was ever lost , but 5hen I was watching him in 2011. Before basketball was invented. IRF's obsession with Fab and his deficiencies are getting a tad tedious. Anything he brings as a player is a freebie , incidentally Of all people you should know how hard it is to make the budgets work Hersey You can't tell me that whenever Fab was made player coach that the fact he was one of the best players in the team as well as coach wasn't a great double whammy for the salary he and Eagles negotiated? Whether or not you want to class what he brings as a player as a freebie or not - the fact is now he's not a top player capable of big minutes that's another salary for a player Eagles have to find and afford that they didn't have to budget for in the past I agree with Mr Tall he's likely one of the bigger earners in BBL - but in the past he could do 2 jobs for that money Just pointing out how it is now. He is going to be very expensive. He can't point to what he brings as a player any more. So even more pressure on him to be the best coach available for the money he costs Funnily enough there are Eagles fans on social media question him and his contribution more than I do?? I just say he needs to deliver. Some Eagles fans say he needs to go!! Just be glad I'm not extreme !! Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 15:05:59 GMT
There's a lot of assumption and guesswork about Fab's remuneration on here. And a pretty big degree of error, as well, But there's also the loyalty issue. Eagles have a great reputation. There are Treyvonn are skeletons in their wardrobe. If Fab was to do another 5, even ten, years as purely a coach on his current contract, he would have earned every penny he's been paid during his Eagles career. And still have been good VFM. So why would Eagles chuck their rep away to save a few quid
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 25, 2019 15:16:11 GMT
There's a lot of assumption and guesswork about Fab's remuneration on here. And a pretty big degree of error, as well, But there's also the loyalty issue. Eagles have a great reputation. There are Treyvonn are skeletons in their wardrobe. If Fab was to do another 5, even ten, years as purely a coach on his current contract, he would have earned every penny he's been paid during his Eagles career. And still have been good VFM. So why would Eagles chuck their rep away to save a few quid For sure there is a loyalty issue I also think Fab is a proud man. In fact I am sure he is. He's going to want to deliver even if he's got a job for life or not due to past glories.
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